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re: Golf Cheater
Posted on 6/1/22 at 2:45 pm to DestrehanTiger
Posted on 6/1/22 at 2:45 pm to DestrehanTiger
My friends and I play double par as worst score on the hole. So a meltdown par 4, worst score is 8.
Posted on 6/1/22 at 2:59 pm to GeauxTigers0107
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Long drive hole, a couple of years at the old Ormond course. We're playing a 4 man scramble and can physically watch the group in front of us because it's so backed up. They literally have one decent player. We're backed up and watching them tee off on every hole. Decent player tees off last and snap hooks it OB left.
They take off down the fairway and we see them grab the longest drive placard and go down the fairway and reset it. We're thinking ain't no freaking way. The hole is 400yds long, straight, and dead into a 30mph wind.
Our longest guy had already hit drives of 340 and 356 that day. Young baseball player turned golfer who just bombs it. He smashes one on the long drive hole and it's some 30-35yds behind the longest drive placard. That's when we decided to really start watching these guys play.
They carded a birdie on the next par 3 that we clearly saw them par and turned in a score of 19 under. Next closest was 12 under. We shot a legit 11. Several comments/confrontations at the clubhouse when they posted their score. When the winning team was announced, everyone LOL'ed and called bullshite. Needless to say, they loaded up immediately and left.
You weren't supposed to be watching me!
Posted on 6/1/22 at 3:39 pm to cjohn1290
I can’t really think of any specific cheating acts that I’ve witnessed, but I’ve known guys claiming good scores that end up much higher when I actually played with them. Had a coworker always claim he was shooting in the 70s, until I played with him and he couldn’t break 90.
I had a high school teammate play with a guy who all of a sudden was shooting 36-38 in 9 hole matches. This guy hit a bad approach shot, then dropped another ball. His coach found out and his scores quickly shot up.
I had a high school teammate play with a guy who all of a sudden was shooting 36-38 in 9 hole matches. This guy hit a bad approach shot, then dropped another ball. His coach found out and his scores quickly shot up.
Posted on 6/1/22 at 3:50 pm to Tigerbythetale
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conceding gimme putts, ball switching
Neither of these are against the rules
Posted on 6/1/22 at 3:52 pm to GeauxTigers777
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I get that, and as long as keeping pace of play, I don't think you have to end your scoring at double bogey.
You don't but your handicap is going to be calculated using the double bogey max
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At the same time, if you shoot an 88 with 3 net triple bogeys, you should be plugging an 85 into your handicap.
You should put in your gross score by hole and it will calculate for you
Posted on 6/1/22 at 3:56 pm to McVick
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Sorry for my ignorance, as I still play like I was taught in high school in the 90s, but does this new recommendation help to ensure someone's handicap doesn't increase but always stays the same or goes down? I understand the handicap is an average which takes out the best and worst rounds over a given period of time. I probably don't understand the new recommendations like I should- I just play and score as-is.
It's not really a new recommendation. It's just modifying the old equitable stroke rule. It's just in place to help pace of play.
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I understand the handicap is an average which takes out the best and worst rounds over a given period of time
hc is an average of your 8 best rounds over your last 20 rounds
Posted on 6/1/22 at 4:05 pm to DestrehanTiger
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The point is to prevent the odd blow up hole from distorting your handicap. A scratch is very rarely going to get worse than double bogey on a hole. So, if the scratch has one crazy hole where he gets a 10, his handicap will still show what he is capable of.
Also, for higher handicaps, it's still possible to get > double bogey. An 18 handicap essentially has a triple bogey max.
I'm an 11 handicap and I believe my max score is a 7 on any hole regardless of par or handicap number. Is that how it still works? That was under the equitable stroke control (ESC) system.
This post was edited on 6/1/22 at 4:08 pm
Posted on 6/1/22 at 4:26 pm to EyeOfTheTiger311
It means that you can take triple on the 11 hardest holes and a double on the 7 easiest. Pretty simple.
But you need your course handicap adjusted for the tees you are playing. For instance, if you are playing senior tees, you may only be getting 8 or 9 strokes instead of the full 11.
But you need your course handicap adjusted for the tees you are playing. For instance, if you are playing senior tees, you may only be getting 8 or 9 strokes instead of the full 11.
This post was edited on 6/1/22 at 4:27 pm
Posted on 6/1/22 at 6:06 pm to EyeOfTheTiger311
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I'm an 11 handicap and I believe my max score is a 7 on any hole regardless of par or handicap number. Is that how it still works? That was under the equitable stroke control (ESC) system.
Net double bogey is your max now. So on handicap holes 1-11 you could submit triple bogeys but 12-18 only double bogeys.
Posted on 6/1/22 at 6:18 pm to cjohn1290
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What’s the worst cheating act you have seen on the golf course? Whether it was with your buddies or in a tournament.
Playing a local league tourney at TPC. Super wet and as we aren't pros played preferred lies.
Guy in my group ends up dead in a hollow of cypress trees completely blocked from going to the hole. Go help look for another ball, and note his ball is now out of with a clear shot to the hole. He hits it on and two putts. Matching scores after the round, he has himself down for par while I had him for bogey. Asked him to go through his shots and there was no mention of a drop.
Posted on 6/1/22 at 7:48 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
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conceding gimme putts, ball switching
When talking about ball switching I assume he means during the hole. I played with a guy who would hit a rock off the tee box then switch to a ProV1x in the fairway to get spin. Illegal as frick
Posted on 6/1/22 at 7:57 pm to cjohn1290
I have some that will say well that bunker is in bad condition so I won’t hit it out of there. Or mark their ball with the coin in front of ball and then when they replace the ball they move it in front of coin.
So in essence they moved their ball two balls forward.
I don’t really care- I just know that I can never beat the guy because he always scores one less strike per hole than I do.
So in essence they moved their ball two balls forward.
I don’t really care- I just know that I can never beat the guy because he always scores one less strike per hole than I do.
Posted on 6/1/22 at 8:19 pm to KingofthePoint
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I can’t really think of any specific cheating acts that I’ve witnessed, but I’ve known guys claiming good scores that end up much higher when I actually played with them. Had a coworker always claim he was shooting in the 70s, until I played with him and he couldn’t break 90. I had a high school teammate play with a guy who all of a sudden was shooting 36-38 in 9 hole matches. This guy hit a bad approach shot, then dropped another ball. His coach found out and his scores quickly shot up.
These are the people you want to be playing with and against.
If they lie about their handicap being lower for their vanity and take their money on the course
Posted on 6/1/22 at 8:51 pm to Gorilla Ball
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have some that will say well that bunker is in bad condition so I won’t hit it out of there
If everyone agrees at the beginning of the round, I have no problem with this.
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mark their ball with the coin in front of ball and then when they replace the ball they move it in front of coin.
frick these guys.
I've heard of a guy who straight up threw his ball out of a bunker and pretended he hit up. I have politely declined every invitation to play with this a-hole.
I also know of a guy who straight up lied about hitting a hole in one and has his name on a plaque in the clubhouse.
Posted on 6/1/22 at 9:47 pm to cjohn1290
Same scramble team won an annual tourney 4 years in a row. One, they turned in a 43. I didn’t play the 5th so who knows. The streak is prob still alive. Charity, of course. Church guys all trying to bang the congregation.
This post was edited on 6/1/22 at 9:51 pm
Posted on 6/1/22 at 10:15 pm to Gorilla Ball
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Or mark their ball with the coin in front of ball and then when they replace the ball they move it in front of coin.
So in essence they moved their ball two balls forward.
I will never understand this one. What do you really gain. From inside 2 ft maybe it matters but why do they do it from 20 ft.
Posted on 6/1/22 at 10:22 pm to Lollipop Jones
We must be members of the same club
Posted on 6/1/22 at 11:38 pm to SECSolomonGrundy
Agreed to both points
Posted on 6/1/22 at 11:39 pm to Zanzibaw
They do it all the time, maybe no one ever showed them on how to mark a ball.
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