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Being afraid to go low
Posted on 7/3/24 at 10:07 am
Posted on 7/3/24 at 10:07 am
I’ve been playing the best golf of my life this year, but whenever I get to a couple under, it feels like I immediately make a bogey or two. I’ve had a couple under par rounds, but some could have been so much better if it wasn’t for the mental block.
I’ve thought about playing from the reds to force me to think the low numbers aren’t as big of a deal but was wondering if anyone (lifshoals, Floyd Dawg, etc.) had any thoughts they consistently went to in order to help them go low.
Same thing might apply to rounds below 80 or 90, whatever the goal you’re trying to achieve is.
TLDR: what mindset helps you go low?
I’ve thought about playing from the reds to force me to think the low numbers aren’t as big of a deal but was wondering if anyone (lifshoals, Floyd Dawg, etc.) had any thoughts they consistently went to in order to help them go low.
Same thing might apply to rounds below 80 or 90, whatever the goal you’re trying to achieve is.
TLDR: what mindset helps you go low?
Posted on 7/3/24 at 10:14 am to Dawgsontop34
Honestly play my best when I'm not even thinking about score and just playing holes.
Lowest round of my life was a 75. And I didn't know it until around hole 15. I knew I had a few birdies and a really good round going, but tried to think about just playing holes and making shots.
I usually shoot low to mid 80s when I'm playing decent. Shooting a 75 is hard as hell.
Lowest round of my life was a 75. And I didn't know it until around hole 15. I knew I had a few birdies and a really good round going, but tried to think about just playing holes and making shots.
I usually shoot low to mid 80s when I'm playing decent. Shooting a 75 is hard as hell.
This post was edited on 7/3/24 at 2:18 pm
Posted on 7/3/24 at 10:17 am to Dawgsontop34
It’s typically about caring too much about the number you’re going to post. You get a couple under and think if I just par in and not make a mistake this score will be “good enough”. Playing with better players helps curb that because you’re trying to compete with them and not some arbitrary number like par.
You really need to block out the score and play what the shot justifies. If you’ve got a back left pin at 136 and that is your exact pitching wedge number and hit a draw, then take on that flag. That said, it’s a very difficult mindset. I was always a super conservative golfer, but the best players that I have played with knew to keep the gas pedal down at all times.
You really need to block out the score and play what the shot justifies. If you’ve got a back left pin at 136 and that is your exact pitching wedge number and hit a draw, then take on that flag. That said, it’s a very difficult mindset. I was always a super conservative golfer, but the best players that I have played with knew to keep the gas pedal down at all times.
Posted on 7/3/24 at 10:21 am to Dawgsontop34
gotta think about the next shot, no the score. The score should not be in the mind. Sure, it is impossible but that is the goal.
Posted on 7/3/24 at 10:23 am to Dawgsontop34
When you're doing well, and then come to the holes where you bogey, do you catch yourself having a more relaxed mental state?
Me personally, when I'm having a good round, the second I relax and lose a bit of focus is when the bogeys and doubles crop up.
This is where you see the pros have a very specific routine before every stroke. It helps keep the focus on each shot consistent.
Also, it isn't easy to pile birdies and pars without any bogeys or you'd be on the PGA. So figuring out how to mitigate a bad score when you have a bad shot is going to keep your score lower than trying a hero shot.
Me personally, when I'm having a good round, the second I relax and lose a bit of focus is when the bogeys and doubles crop up.
This is where you see the pros have a very specific routine before every stroke. It helps keep the focus on each shot consistent.
Also, it isn't easy to pile birdies and pars without any bogeys or you'd be on the PGA. So figuring out how to mitigate a bad score when you have a bad shot is going to keep your score lower than trying a hero shot.
Posted on 7/3/24 at 10:52 am to WhiskeyThrottle
That’s a good question. I feel like I definitely think about score too much. But I always know where everyone in my group is at just because my brain is weird like that.
I would love to completely ignore my score and focus on the shot ahead. I just struggle to do that.
I would love to completely ignore my score and focus on the shot ahead. I just struggle to do that.
Posted on 7/3/24 at 11:16 am to WhiskeyThrottle
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the second I relax and lose a bit of focus is when the bogeys and doubles crop up.
Had a turkey queued up the other day. Birdied a par 3 and par 5 back to back. Hit a monster drive on the next par 4. Partial wedge shot in. I was so concerned about the birdie I shanked my shot. A literal shank.
Stay focused my friends.
Posted on 7/3/24 at 11:37 am to Dawgsontop34
For me, its about putting down reminders because we all can get pressy if we get a few uncharacteristic birdies on the card and then press the holes we know birdies are there. A few notes/strategy have helped me stay realistic and prevent a 60s score from turning into a high 70s because of one or two holes.
My coach growing up did this. Couldn't move back a tee until you had three consecutive under par rounds. I don't think it really helped with the nerves so much as it helped us learn to "play" better. Makes you realize that a single golf hole can be played an infinite number of ways which has helped when you get into precarious situations while playing really well.
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playing from the reds
My coach growing up did this. Couldn't move back a tee until you had three consecutive under par rounds. I don't think it really helped with the nerves so much as it helped us learn to "play" better. Makes you realize that a single golf hole can be played an infinite number of ways which has helped when you get into precarious situations while playing really well.
Posted on 7/3/24 at 12:03 pm to Dawgsontop34
I use what I call “The Art of Pessimism “.
I assume that I will inevitably make some bad scores in the holes coming up, so I need to make birdies to counter the future bad holes. Then I run out of holes, and add up the score.
I use it in putting, too. If I run a birdie putt 5 feet past the hole, I think, and often say out loud, “I can’t believe I just bogeyed this hole “. So the pressure’s off, since I’ve already predicted the miss. I’ll hit a good stroke, and if it goes in, it’s a bonus.
I assume that I will inevitably make some bad scores in the holes coming up, so I need to make birdies to counter the future bad holes. Then I run out of holes, and add up the score.
I use it in putting, too. If I run a birdie putt 5 feet past the hole, I think, and often say out loud, “I can’t believe I just bogeyed this hole “. So the pressure’s off, since I’ve already predicted the miss. I’ll hit a good stroke, and if it goes in, it’s a bonus.
Posted on 7/3/24 at 2:20 pm to Dawgsontop34
I knew a guy that every time he had a good round going, someone would remind him of his score and he would fall apart.
Posted on 7/3/24 at 2:27 pm to i am dan
quote:This is a good description of my life when I was single and dating.
Honestly play my best when I'm not even thinking about score and just playing holes.
Ok not really.
Posted on 7/3/24 at 2:33 pm to Dawgsontop34
Honestly I’ve never played the up tees, though I’ve been giving it serious consideration since I passed 60 just to see what it’s like.
It really sounds like you’re fighting the same thing I did when I was younger and playing my best. When i started thinking score, is when bad things happened.
I was playing out of my mind one day, 13 under after 15, got rained out the last 3. Came back next day to finish after spending all night thinking if I went 4 under on the last 3, which I had done several times before i could shoot 55, I’d never heard of anyone doing that. So naturally I was playing for score instead of just swinging the club. 3 bogies later my only chance of ever shooting in the 50’s was gone and i finished with a 62.
The real thing that helps me still, more than anything is play a hole at a time, and trying to play smart. You’ll be surprised how many birdies you’ll make if you know your yardages and don’t go for the hero shot every time. (When I was young I always thought I could make it)
Example these days: I’ve got 140 into a par 4, trouble is short. I can hit a 9 iron if I hit it well that far, or I can hit my 8 and just see if I can make the 30 footer coming back if I hit it well. Maybe it goes in, maybe I two putt and go to the next hole. Maybe I miss hit it a bit and I’ve got 15 feet. Chunked one a bit yesterday and was 5 feet short, oh darn.
Play smart and remember the goal on each hole is par and you can only play one hole at a time. Play it that way IMO and one day soon you’ll look down at your card and realize you just shot 66.
It really sounds like you’re fighting the same thing I did when I was younger and playing my best. When i started thinking score, is when bad things happened.
I was playing out of my mind one day, 13 under after 15, got rained out the last 3. Came back next day to finish after spending all night thinking if I went 4 under on the last 3, which I had done several times before i could shoot 55, I’d never heard of anyone doing that. So naturally I was playing for score instead of just swinging the club. 3 bogies later my only chance of ever shooting in the 50’s was gone and i finished with a 62.
The real thing that helps me still, more than anything is play a hole at a time, and trying to play smart. You’ll be surprised how many birdies you’ll make if you know your yardages and don’t go for the hero shot every time. (When I was young I always thought I could make it)
Example these days: I’ve got 140 into a par 4, trouble is short. I can hit a 9 iron if I hit it well that far, or I can hit my 8 and just see if I can make the 30 footer coming back if I hit it well. Maybe it goes in, maybe I two putt and go to the next hole. Maybe I miss hit it a bit and I’ve got 15 feet. Chunked one a bit yesterday and was 5 feet short, oh darn.
Play smart and remember the goal on each hole is par and you can only play one hole at a time. Play it that way IMO and one day soon you’ll look down at your card and realize you just shot 66.
Posted on 7/3/24 at 2:53 pm to Dawgsontop34
My one thought is keep the hammer down. Get to -2, I want -3. Get to -5, I want -6. Keep hitting the same shots that are working for you THAT DAY. If the fade is working, ride it. Same with the draw. Some days it’s dead straight.
The other thought that I always have is approaches to pin high. My goal for every approach shot is to be within 2 yards short or long of pin high. That tells me my distance control is dialed in and it’s amazing how many good birdie looks I have from pin high.
The other thought that I always have is approaches to pin high. My goal for every approach shot is to be within 2 yards short or long of pin high. That tells me my distance control is dialed in and it’s amazing how many good birdie looks I have from pin high.
This post was edited on 7/3/24 at 2:54 pm
Posted on 7/3/24 at 3:21 pm to Dawgsontop34
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playing from the reds to force me to think the low numbers aren’t as big of a deal
^this works
Posted on 7/3/24 at 3:35 pm to Dawgsontop34
My mindset is never the overall score. I am playing 18 different games. Each hole stands on its own, independent of the others. Each hole is its own challenge.....can I hit this fairway? Great - -I did it. Can I hit this green? If I do, I go into two-putt mindset. If I miss, I go into chip it close mindset. Every shot is it's own goal. Truthfully, when I go low ( for me) I am mentally exhausted after the round. Requires a lot of focus to not get lazy during a round
Posted on 7/3/24 at 5:01 pm to Dawgsontop34
I play better under pressure so I might not be able to help. I have 3 67s under my belt. All three rounds I reached hole 16 with the mindset of staying under 70 and hit some of the best shots of the day to finish -5.
It's all mindset
It's all mindset
Posted on 7/3/24 at 5:17 pm to Dawgsontop34
Go listen to last ten minutes of Kramer Hickok episode of Earn Your Edge podcast. Talks about how to control mindset in both good or bad situations.
Posted on 7/3/24 at 5:38 pm to Dawgsontop34
I think it’s already been mentioned here but if it’s possible, try to find the best golfers around you and play with them as much as possible.
It doesn’t sound like you’re trying to play tournament golf, but if you have a way to play with good tournament golfers, try to do that as well.
When I started taking golf seriously, it helped me to consistently play with people that were better than me. It also helped my mind set to stay in a frame where I wasn’t ‘doing anything special’ and just played normal golf regardless of score.
For example, you mentioned being a couple under par and then making bogies. In the grand scheme of things, there’s nothing earth shattering about being a couple under par. So don’t treat the rest of your round like it is. Just keep putting it in the fairway and hitting solid shots.
It doesn’t sound like you’re trying to play tournament golf, but if you have a way to play with good tournament golfers, try to do that as well.
When I started taking golf seriously, it helped me to consistently play with people that were better than me. It also helped my mind set to stay in a frame where I wasn’t ‘doing anything special’ and just played normal golf regardless of score.
For example, you mentioned being a couple under par and then making bogies. In the grand scheme of things, there’s nothing earth shattering about being a couple under par. So don’t treat the rest of your round like it is. Just keep putting it in the fairway and hitting solid shots.
Posted on 7/3/24 at 6:37 pm to Dawgsontop34
Had this happen to me last Saturday. Was sitting at even par on hole 15, a reachable par 5, and my mind took over and the thoughts started racing in. Topped the drive but still managed par. Bogeyed the next two holes and pared 18th hole.
Its just nerves. Best trick is to not think about it and keep a clear head. Good luck with that
Its just nerves. Best trick is to not think about it and keep a clear head. Good luck with that
Posted on 7/3/24 at 7:01 pm to Dawgsontop34
It's funny how the game and your mindset changes as you age as far as trying to score.
20 years ago I was so strong that all I wanted to do was crush the ball as far as possible because I knew that I could get it on the green from any lie or rough.
Now I am more focused on hitting the fairway because that's my best chance to score.
Jack Nicklaus won a lot of tournaments just hitting the middle of the green.
20 years ago I was so strong that all I wanted to do was crush the ball as far as possible because I knew that I could get it on the green from any lie or rough.
Now I am more focused on hitting the fairway because that's my best chance to score.
Jack Nicklaus won a lot of tournaments just hitting the middle of the green.
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