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re: PC Discussion - Gaming, Performance and Enthusiasts

Posted on 10/28/20 at 1:32 pm to
Posted by UltimateHog
Oregon
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 10/28/20 at 1:32 pm to
Yeah it looks like the perfect 1440p high refresh rate card and 16GB vram.

This post was edited on 10/28/20 at 1:46 pm
Posted by thunderbird1100
GSU Eagles fan
Member since Oct 2007
68330 posts
Posted on 10/28/20 at 1:51 pm to
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7970

7990 was a dual gpu


Sold my system last year with a 7950 in it, served me so well for long time
Posted by finchmeister08
Member since Mar 2011
35642 posts
Posted on 10/28/20 at 2:01 pm to
here's linus telling everyone to wait for the release of the AMD cards before buying a 3070 card.

LINK
Posted by UltimateHog
Oregon
Member since Dec 2011
65808 posts
Posted on 10/28/20 at 2:03 pm to
3070 being 8GB really kills it. That is not enough VRAM for these days, we're already seeing games taxing that completely including your favorite CoD.
Posted by bluebarracuda
Member since Oct 2011
18236 posts
Posted on 10/28/20 at 2:11 pm to
quote:

7990 was a dual gpu


I know, I was going by any consumer card. The 7990 edged out the 690 after that crazy driver update that boosted 7xxx cards, especially the 7950 and 7970.

I think the next cycle nvidia came out with the titans and basically bombed AMD?
Posted by finchmeister08
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 10/28/20 at 3:23 pm to
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we're already seeing games taxing that completely including your favorite CoD.

i don't think my 5700XT is being maxed out at the moment and its only got 8GB. i'm in 1080p though so that might be why.
Posted by UltimateHog
Oregon
Member since Dec 2011
65808 posts
Posted on 10/28/20 at 3:33 pm to
Yeah this would be 1440p and above. Mine is maxed if I try to run it on ultra.
Posted by LSU Coyote
Member since Sep 2007
53390 posts
Posted on 10/28/20 at 6:29 pm to
Yeah plus the 690 had that 2GB RAM limitation. Soo dumb.
Posted by finchmeister08
Member since Mar 2011
35642 posts
Posted on 10/28/20 at 7:52 pm to
So who’s going after a 3070 tomorrow?

ETA: I keep going back and forth. Do I need an upgrade? Not really, but I do want to try out an nvidia card.
This post was edited on 10/28/20 at 7:53 pm
Posted by UltimateHog
Oregon
Member since Dec 2011
65808 posts
Posted on 10/28/20 at 7:54 pm to
Nah, VRAM is too low not an option for me at higher resolutions.
Posted by finchmeister08
Member since Mar 2011
35642 posts
Posted on 10/28/20 at 7:55 pm to
Well, you’re team red all the way, right? Regardless?
This post was edited on 10/28/20 at 7:56 pm
Posted by UltimateHog
Oregon
Member since Dec 2011
65808 posts
Posted on 10/28/20 at 7:57 pm to
For sure. But 8GB was dead regardless of brand due to QHD+ and soon 4K.
Posted by finchmeister08
Member since Mar 2011
35642 posts
Posted on 10/28/20 at 8:00 pm to
yeah, but we'll see 2-3 more gens of cards before they become mainstream, right? there are still people playing in 1080 like myself.
Posted by UltimateHog
Oregon
Member since Dec 2011
65808 posts
Posted on 10/28/20 at 8:01 pm to
1440p is the most common, it took the lead for new builds over 1080p in steam hardware surveys about a year ago? Maybe a little over?

4K still quite small, but obviously growing quick nowadays with the new cards geared for them and a bunch of monitors flooding the market. The 3080 20GB being canceled kinda sucks as 10GB for 4K really isn't enough either and you're asking 2080ti owners to downgrade when you need to be adding more.
This post was edited on 10/28/20 at 8:41 pm
Posted by UltimateHog
Oregon
Member since Dec 2011
65808 posts
Posted on 10/28/20 at 8:22 pm to
Smart Access Memory sounds pretty cool and promising.

quote:

Why is this important? Previously, CPUs have only been able to access a tiny fraction of a graphics card’s memory banks – just 256MB, to be precise. At the moment, game developers use that tiny 256MB of memory to enable CPUs to occasionally handle things like buffers, polygon meshes, and texture and geometry data. In the distant past of 17 years ago, this wasn’t a huge problem given that GPU memory wasn’t much bigger than that in the first place. Now, though, it’s a different story, as all three of AMD’s new Big Navi GPUs have a whopping 16GB of GDDR6 memory apiece – and with Smart Access Memory, a Ryzen 5000 CPU will be able to access the whole lot of it.

Naturally, being stuck with just 256MB doesn’t give developers a lot of space to play with, and it means the CPU ends up making lots of calls to your graphics card’s memory banks, which increases your PC’s overall performance overhead and slows down your gaming speeds as a result. By allowing a CPU to have full access to that GPU memory, that performance overhead is dramatically reduced, allowing everything to speed up in order to increase those frame rates.

At the moment, AMD have seen performance gains of between 5-11% in titles they’ve tested internally – and, as we saw during AMD’s Big Navi event, up to 13% when you combine it with the RX 6000’s one-click overclocking feature called Rage Mode. That might not sound like a whole lot in practice, but AMD believe that once game developers are able to start testing it for themselves, we’ll see even bigger gains start to emerge over time.


Infinity Cache is as advertised from the CPU side's infinity fabric nice to see that tech evolve to the GPU side:

This post was edited on 10/28/20 at 10:47 pm
Posted by bluebarracuda
Member since Oct 2011
18236 posts
Posted on 10/28/20 at 11:23 pm to
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1440p is the most common, it took the lead for new builds over 1080p in steam hardware surveys about a year ago? Maybe a little over?


Why aren't there knockoff 4k asian monitors now like there was back in 2013!?

Those monitors were so much fun
Posted by Hu_Flung_Pu
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2013
22168 posts
Posted on 10/29/20 at 7:57 am to
Y’all ready?
Posted by finchmeister08
Member since Mar 2011
35642 posts
Posted on 10/29/20 at 8:12 am to
this has been quite the shite show. i've been in best buy's checkout twice now for an FE and i've been kicked out both times.
Posted by Carson123987
Middle Court at the Rec
Member since Jul 2011
66422 posts
Posted on 10/29/20 at 8:35 am to
Got a 3090 yesterday and nabbed a 3070 Founder’s this morning. Was going to keep the 3070 as a backup card but I may sell everything once I get a 3080
Posted by finchmeister08
Member since Mar 2011
35642 posts
Posted on 10/29/20 at 8:40 am to
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I may sell everything once I get a 3080

let me guess, for twice the price, eh?
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