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re: Ciri to be a minority in new Witcher series by Netflix?

Posted on 9/10/18 at 1:59 pm to
Posted by sicboy
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Posted on 9/10/18 at 1:59 pm to
He was a big factor in book 2, but I'm pretty sure only saw him in that one scene with Newman in the first movie.
Posted by musick
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Posted on 9/10/18 at 2:22 pm to
I fricked that up, for some reason I thought it was animated.

I dun goofed
Posted by PEPE
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Posted on 9/10/18 at 2:31 pm to
If they made Lord of the Rings in 2018 I'm pretty positive Gandalf would be black and they'd also manage to turn one of the major male characters into a woman too.

Isn't it cute how they don't even have a particular race in mind. BAME is politically correct shorthand for "no whites allowed"

Until audiences begin pushing back against htis stuff and voting with their wallets, this type of shite will continue.

When they pull this shite with a movie or a tv show, don't watch it, don't pay for it, don't follow it. It's the only recourse you have.
Posted by LSU Coyote
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Posted on 9/10/18 at 2:34 pm to
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Until audiences begin pushing back against htis stuff and voting with their wallets, this type of shite will continue

Oh they about to experience the full wrath of neckbeards.
This post was edited on 9/10/18 at 2:37 pm
Posted by sicboy
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Posted on 9/10/18 at 2:41 pm to
what took you so long?
Posted by skrayper
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Posted on 9/10/18 at 3:24 pm to
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Ciri to be a minority in new Witcher series by Netflix?


Who cares?

Her race is not integral, at all, to her role within the story. The Witcher series is pretty white; if a TV series wants a wider appeal they'll incorporate minorities. It's basic marketing, literally 101 stuff.

I am honest to goodness trying to remember a character of any relevance who isn't white in the story and I'm blanking on it.
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
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Posted on 9/10/18 at 3:30 pm to
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Who cares?


People like authenticity? Especially when you are making an adaptation, not a re-imagining.

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Her race is not integral, at all, to her role within the story. The Witcher series is pretty white; if a TV series wants a wider appeal they'll incorporate minorities. It's basic marketing, literally 101 stuff.

I am honest to goodness trying to remember a character of any relevance who isn't white in the story and I'm blanking on it.




Well it is largely off of Slavic and Polish mythology. It is predominantly white for a reason.
This post was edited on 9/10/18 at 3:31 pm
Posted by Scruffy
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Posted on 9/10/18 at 3:40 pm to
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Who cares?

Her race is not integral, at all, to her role within the story. The Witcher series is pretty white; if a TV series wants a wider appeal they'll incorporate minorities. It's basic marketing, literally 101 stuff.
You are such a racist.
Posted by skrayper
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Posted on 9/10/18 at 3:40 pm to
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People like authenticity? Especially when you are making an adaptation, not a re-imagining.


If they changed her personality, I would agree. If you got the stereotypical "sassy black female" to be Ciri, then that would be a deviation that would drive me insane. If her personality is the same, that's what matters. She's a fictional character that hop dimensions; adapting her role to another race isn't going kill my immersion.

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Well it is largely off of Slavic and Polish mythology. It is predominantly white for a reason.


And Thor is Norse Mythology, and people bitched about Heimdall being black in the movies until they saw how good an actor he is and decided to just shut up and enjoy the movies.

Besides, Ofir is based on the Middle East and Toussaint is based on France. So... eh.
Posted by Scruffy
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Posted on 9/10/18 at 3:47 pm to
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Besides, Ofir is based on the Middle East and Toussaint is based on France. So... eh.
Then they can create new characters.

You racists don’t support that though.
Posted by LSU Coyote
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Posted on 9/10/18 at 4:04 pm to
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If they changed her personality, I would agree. If you got the stereotypical "sassy black female" to be Ciri, then that would be a deviation that would drive me insane

Well I hope they cast a black female.

Then Yennefer just glamours her to a white girl.
This post was edited on 9/10/18 at 4:06 pm
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
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Posted on 9/10/18 at 4:07 pm to
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If they changed her personality, I would agree. If you got the stereotypical "sassy black female" to be Ciri, then that would be a deviation that would drive me insane. If her personality is the same, that's what matters. She's a fictional character that hop dimensions; adapting her role to another race isn't going kill my immersion.


If it doesn't matter so much, why does the character have to be a minority then? They are actually refusing to cast the character to even attempt to have any visual similarity to the source material. That is much different than the best person for the role just happens to be another ethnicity.

It may not kill your immersion, but do you not see how it can others?

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And Thor is Norse Mythology, and people bitched about Heimdall being black in the movies until they saw how good an actor he is and decided to just shut up and enjoy the movies.



Well, Idris Elba could take a literal shite on screen and people would say it was the greatest thing they've ever seen. Was he just the best person that tried out for the role or did they actually not allow any white actors to try out for the part. Do you honestly not see the difference there? Netflix is saying here that to read for the role, you have to be a minority. At that point, they are actually just changing the character.
This post was edited on 9/10/18 at 4:08 pm
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
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Posted on 9/10/18 at 4:07 pm to
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Well I hope they cast a black female.

Then Yennefer just glamours her to a white girl.


Would support.
Posted by PEPE
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Posted on 9/10/18 at 4:23 pm to
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Her race is not integral, at all, to her role within the story.


Wrong. Geralt views Ciri very close to one would view a daughter. Her looking a great deal like him would obviously reinforce this feeling and makes it feel more real to him and those around him. Ciri could easily pass for Geralt's biological daughter, that is a 100% intentional thing the author did.

While people do adopt kids of another race sometimes, such an obvious issue would be raised repeatedly in Geralt's world, whereas if they were the same race, it's a non-issue.

Besides

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Who cares?


Try taking a character that was originally created as non-white and casting them as white and you'll quickly find a lot of people 'who care'

The powers that be have deemed changing the race/gender of characters as acceptable only if it results in fewer men and fewer whites.

Funny how 'diversity' always means "fewer whites"
This post was edited on 9/10/18 at 4:24 pm
Posted by el Gaucho
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Posted on 9/10/18 at 6:20 pm to
Found the Hillary voter
Posted by McCaigBro69
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Posted on 9/10/18 at 6:41 pm to
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I am honest to goodness trying to remember a character of any relevance who isn't white in the story and I'm blanking on it.


I mean this was intentional by the author.

It would be like Disney making T’Challa white in Black Panther just to do it. It makes zero sense to do so.
Posted by Scruffy
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Posted on 9/10/18 at 6:50 pm to
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I mean this was intentional by the author.

I mean the story is polish, written by a polish guy, and it reflects the nationality of the author’s country.

The frick do people expect?
Posted by rebel of fortune
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Posted on 9/10/18 at 6:55 pm to
I have no problem with them adding different races in the show but Ciri should be white as frick. Also you have to change Emhyr race as well and change the story around this. Witcher subreddit isn’t very happy about the rumor.
Posted by SeeeeK
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Posted on 9/10/18 at 7:16 pm to
Get Woke, Go Broke

Posted by skrayper
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Posted on 9/10/18 at 9:09 pm to
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If it doesn't matter so much, why does the character have to be a minority then?


I never said it has to be a minority... Only that the immersion isn't killed by it.
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