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Y.A. Tittle
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re: Worst cocktail blunder you ever experienced
I still order one every time I go to Mandina's and they are probably the biggest offender in this regard.


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scott8811
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re: Worst cocktail blunder you ever experienced
I'm by no means a cocktail expert, but I'm given to understand that a shaken drink is shaken to mask the main liquor behind the mixers, whereas a stirred drink is made to let the main liquor take center stage. It's my understanding that that is why drinks with vodka are shaken and things with bourbon and rye are stirred. Given all this, I could see where shaking a Manhattan is a pretty egregious mistake.


jdd48
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re: Worst cocktail blunder you ever experienced
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I'm by no means a cocktail expert, but I'm given to understand that a shaken drink is shaken to mask the main liquor behind the mixers, whereas a stirred drink is made to let the main liquor take center stage. It's my understanding that that is why drinks with vodka are shaken and things with bourbon and rye are stirred. Given all this, I could see where shaking a Manhattan is a pretty egregious mistake.


Shaking a cocktail also introduces air bubbles, which can change both the appearance and the flavor of the main spirit.


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georgia
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re: Worst cocktail blunder you ever experienced
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just need to figure out how to word it so I don’t sound like and a-hole and end up with s spit ball in my Of



With confidence in the delivery I guess.

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Mike Rowe February 18 at 11:48 AM ·
So I’m at the bar last night, waiting for my drink to arrive, when the man beside me orders a “Clint.”
“A Clint?” says the bartender.
The man reaches into his pocket and offers the bartender a business card. The bartender examines the card and nods his head. “One Clint, coming up!”
I turn to the man beside me, who appears to be the same age as my father. “It’s none of my business,” I say, “but what the hell is a Clint?”
The man smiles and hands me his card. “Keep it,” he says. “Might come in handy sometime.” On the business card, are the ingredients for a very specific drink. I am intrigued, not only by the drink, but by the man who carries a card with instructions for bartenders to properly mix the cocktail he desires.
“Campari?” I say. “Interesting.” “Don’t knock it till you try it.”
“May I assume you’re the Clint for which the drink is named?” I ask.
“You may,” says Clint.
“And may I further assume you’re a man who has grown weary of describing a drink no one has ever heard of?"
“You may,” says Clint.
We shake hands, and I make no further assumptions about the man with a taste for pink cocktails. We chat some more though, and I soon learn that Clint has spent his life in law enforcement. Specifically, I learn that he worked with the secret service. “Interesting,” I said. “Did you know John Barletta?” John is the only secret service guy I’d ever met. He guarded Reagan for years. I met him at the ranch once.
“Sure,” said Clint. I knew John very well. Good man. Died not too long ago.”
“Yeah,” I said. "I heard that. Did you read his book, Riding with Reagan?"
“Sure did,” said Clint. “He was devoted to the Reagans. Absolutely devoted.” Clint raised his pink drink to John Barletta, and we drank to his memory.
“Were you involved with Reagan?” I asked.
“No, I was done by then. My last guy was Ford.”
“Your last guy?” I asked.
“Yeah, I guarded Nixon before that.”
“Really?”
“And Johnson before that.”
“Yeah?”
“And Kennedy before that.”
“You’re kidding,” I said.
“No. I actually started with Eisenhower.”
“Wow,” I said. “Five Presidents? You must have some stories.” Suffice it to say, he does. Turns out, the man sipping the pink cocktail with yours truly is the agent who threw himself over Jackie Kennedy in 1963, two seconds after her husband was assassinated in Dallas. Clint was not only there - he was in the middle of it. All of it. Last night, I came home and read up on Clint Hill. This President’s Day, I encourage you to do the same. His story is incredible. https://clinthillsecretservice.com/ Better yet, download the #1 New York Times Best Seller about his remarkable life, Five Presidents. That's what I'm going to do. Then, I’m going to make myself a Clint, and think not just about the Presidents we remember on this day, but of the men and women who risk their lives protecting them. Carry on, Clint Hill. Carry on. Mike




scott8811
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re: Worst cocktail blunder you ever experienced
I remember seeing that story posted...my mouth dries up at just the thought of a double shot of campari and vodka


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wickowick
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re: Worst cocktail blunder you ever experienced
That is where I got the idea.


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re: Worst cocktail blunder you ever experienced
A big offender to me is the club soda in an Old Fashioned. Lots of places on the Gulf (AL, FL) do this. Disgusting! Even the Grand Hotel is guilty.


scott8811
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re: Worst cocktail blunder you ever experienced
I think I've had a few bartenders top it off with a tiny pour of club soda.... I don't mind this so much if it's just in an effort to take it from just below the glass rim to the rim, but it should not be a main part of the drink. When it's done like I said, I would have never know had I not seen it.


Dirtysouthdeacon
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re: Worst cocktail blunder you ever experienced
Was at a bar in Florence, Italy several years ago. I go to the bar and order a "Gin and Tonic." Bartender looks at me and shrugs. I repeat "Gin and Tonic." Shrugs again. So, I say: "gin, tonic water, and ice." Bartender says "Oh, you mean a Gin tonic." I guess the "and" threw him for a loop.
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BlackenedOut
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re: Worst cocktail blunder you ever experienced
Not really, and again, there is probably an exception but a cocktail is often skaken if there is some sort of fruit juice and as a way to enhance dilution/froth the drink. Stirred drinks are often those that dont have any fruit juice and as a way to better control dilution of the ice.
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JoeKennedysDrool
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re: Worst cocktail blunder you ever experienced
I ordered a Hemingway Daiquiri at Galatoire's (BR) and they told me they didn't have a blender



Willie Stroker
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re: Worst cocktail blunder you ever experienced
I was at a country club in Corpus Christi and ordered a Sazerac because the very friendly waitress said they could do it.

It came back served in a martini glass tasting very different. She said they didn’t have absinthe or Herbsaint, so they substituted a citrus vodka. They didn’t have Peychaud’s bitters either, so they substituted Tiki bitters. Rather than lemon zest, they dropped in an orange zest.

The cocktail was not terrible, but it was four essentials shy of a Sazerac.


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scott8811
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re: Worst cocktail blunder you ever experienced
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I ordered a Hemingway Daiquiri at Galatoire's (BR) and they told me they didn't have a blender




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Y.A. Tittle
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re: Worst cocktail blunder you ever experienced
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I ordered a Hemingway Daiquiri at Galatoire's (BR) and they told me they didn't have a blender


Their Old Fashioned is not unlike Mandina's either.


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Jake88
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re: Worst cocktail blunder you ever experienced
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I know that I hate muddled fruit and vermouth just seems wrong.
Sweet Vermouth is used in a Manhattan. They're getting their drinks mixed up. An Old Fashioned is Rye or Bourbon, Simple syrup, three dashes of Angosturra Bitters and the skin of an orange. A cherry if you like, but no cherry juice. It should be brown, not maroon. No muddled anything.


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mrjduke
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re: Worst cocktail blunder you ever experienced
Simple rule for shaken vs stirred:

Any cocktail with any juice, syrup, herbs or fruit should be shaken.

Any cocktail where all ingredients are spirit based should be stirred.

The only real reason for shaking is when you have ingredients of different viscosities to get them to come together better. Any time you shake a cocktail, you should double strain with a mesh strainer simply to catch small ice chips. 50 small ice chips become 1/4-1/2 oz of water and you wouldn't otherwise want to add that much water to the drink after making it.
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LSUGUMBO
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re: Worst cocktail blunder you ever experienced
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never go to Bistro Byronz..at least not for drinks


I’ve had the same ‘old fashioned’ from B.B. :yak:

The Steakhouse has a good one- served with rock candy stirrer, but it’s not too sweet to begin with.

The ‘smoked’ Old Fashioned at Tejas is good, but I don’t know if it’s $12 good. I guess i’m Glad I tried it once.


beerJeep
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re: Worst cocktail blunder you ever experienced
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got JB and Coke.

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Scotch and coke is not drinkable.

Jim beam is what I would have given you. Jim > jack baw


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scott8811
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re: Worst cocktail blunder you ever experienced
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The Steakhouse has a good one- served with rock candy stirrer


2 johns?? If so I've had it and it's damn solid. One of the better barrel aged ones I've had


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TH03
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re: Worst cocktail blunder you ever experienced
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Was at a bar in Houston not long ago that proudly listed vermouth as an ingredient in their old fashioned. It was nice to have that warning to stay the frick away from that order




I was in Manhattan last week and both places I got OFs from used club soda. It wasn't terrible, but very weird.


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