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Why are there so many mediocre breweries out there?

Posted on 8/31/15 at 5:20 pm
Posted by zacata88
Member since Mar 2014
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Posted on 8/31/15 at 5:20 pm
Early reviews of Second Line Brewing got me to thinking.

You would assume that most people who decide to open a new brewery are somewhat of beer nerds/snobs. Generally, beer nerds/snobs agree on what constitutes a high-quality beer in comparison to what is mediocre or only "passable". Everyone has different tastes and appreciates different styles, but generally, most people who are really into beer can appreciate that Ghost in the Machine is a better brew than a standard Samuel Adams or a Longhammer IPA (or even most of the Bayou Teche or Tin Roof beers).

Why, then, are the vast majority of breweries so mediocre overall? Is it simply that it's really that hard to make one of the "great" beers? Do the average brewers know that their products are just kind of run-of-the-mill? I've never attempted to brew beer before so it's hard for me to figure out.
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Posted by Panny Crickets
Fort Worth, TX
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 8/31/15 at 5:22 pm to
The almighty dolla.
Posted by LSURoss
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Posted on 8/31/15 at 5:25 pm to
Are basing this post just in information you read here? Or have you gathered it from other publications?
Posted by Rohan2Reed
Member since Nov 2003
75674 posts
Posted on 8/31/15 at 5:30 pm to
Same reason there are so many mediocre pizza joints, golf clubs, and candy bars. In a consumer culture volume, marketing, and price point often trump quality.
Posted by s14suspense
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 8/31/15 at 5:32 pm to
Great question. Bad timing. Will check on the answers to see if I need to chime in.
Posted by Zappas Stache
Utility Muffin Research Kitchen
Member since Apr 2009
43565 posts
Posted on 8/31/15 at 5:36 pm to
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Generally, beer nerds/snobs agree on what constitutes a high-quality beer in comparison to what is mediocre or only "passable".


Not really. There is a wide latitude of opinion among beers snobs on any particular beer. Ghost and other top tier beers may have more agreement on their superiority. But for a new brewery, you don't want to copy Ghost, you have to come up with something different but just as good which is very difficult. I would say its like music in that sense.
Posted by Matisyeezy
End of the bar, Drunk
Member since Feb 2012
16638 posts
Posted on 8/31/15 at 6:38 pm to
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Way too Early reviews of Second Line Brewing got me to thinking.



Give them a chance. I hear there are some solid recipes there, better than just mediocre. Scaling up from a homebrew to a larger system takes time and tweaking.

Maybe they will just be mediocre, but it's way too soon to pass judgment on something like that.
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
79904 posts
Posted on 8/31/15 at 6:45 pm to
OP, you got my word. If I ever hit the lottery I will build a brewery that shuns profit and only makes maven level beers.

Guest brewers for every batch.
Hops out the wahzoo
Quantities that barely fill a bottle.
Posted by Matisyeezy
End of the bar, Drunk
Member since Feb 2012
16638 posts
Posted on 8/31/15 at 6:47 pm to
quote:

Quantities that barely fill a bottle.





dat rare
Posted by Jax-Tiger
Vero Beach, FL
Member since Jan 2005
28247 posts
Posted on 8/31/15 at 6:48 pm to
I think their are a lot of factors. I think most restaurants think they have great food, but very few have critically acclaimed food. Breweries are no different. There are a lot of brewers out there that are the same way with their beer. In addition, many people will support the local joint, as long as the beer is decent.

I've talked to a few brewers, and usually they will tell you that they are trying to put their own spin on a beer, not copy the hottest beer out there.

Also, different brewers specialize in different styles of beers. Logsdon makes some great beers, but I wouldn't reckon that their IPA would be too good.

In Portland, there are a lot of neighborhood breweries. New ones are opening all the time. Occasionally, one goes out of business. I still see more new ones opening up than I see existing breweries closing, which means the number of breweries is still growing.

I think Louisiana is ripe for more breweries to open. A mediocre one can be successful, and a great one can really explode...
Posted by BottomlandBrew
Member since Aug 2010
30232 posts
Posted on 8/31/15 at 7:38 pm to
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If I ever hit the lottery I will build a brewery that shuns profit and only makes maven level beers


Yeah, if I ever get a hold of a large sum of frick you money, I'll have a brewery that caters to mavens from the start. I'm not saying it'd be good beer at the start, but I wouldn't be putting out a pale ale and kolsch as my launch flagships.
Posted by LoneStarTiger
Lone Star State
Member since Aug 2004
16532 posts
Posted on 8/31/15 at 7:43 pm to
frick the mavens, I'd be catering to me
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
79904 posts
Posted on 8/31/15 at 7:44 pm to
I'll bring you in you brew some beer that is derogatory towards Milo and his alma mater.
Posted by Icansee4miles
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32336 posts
Posted on 8/31/15 at 8:04 pm to
Just don't leave Texas and brew elsewhere. That offends some people.
Posted by LoneStarTiger
Lone Star State
Member since Aug 2004
16532 posts
Posted on 8/31/15 at 8:11 pm to
quote:

by Icansee4miles
Just don't leave Texas and brew elsewhere. That offends some people.




If I do, I won't claim to be local
Posted by Icansee4miles
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Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 8/31/15 at 8:25 pm to


Fair enough. Back to OP, the problem is some people see a brewery like Abita making bad/mediocre, occasionally average beer yet selling it all over the country by marketing and distributing aggressively, and think they can do the same. Tin Roof continues to make terrible beers, yet somehow they sell. Where's the incentive to pay out the arse for hops to make Ghost, or have the courage to tetu an entire batch when you've made something awful?
Posted by MiloDanglers
on a dock on a bay
Member since Apr 2012
6558 posts
Posted on 8/31/15 at 8:28 pm to
quote:


I'll bring you in you brew some beer that is derogatory towards Milo and his alma mater.




IWDI
Posted by DanglingFury
Living the dream
Member since Dec 2007
20475 posts
Posted on 8/31/15 at 8:32 pm to
quote:

I'd be catering to me


This.
Posted by TigerWise
Front Seat of an Uber
Member since Sep 2010
35132 posts
Posted on 8/31/15 at 8:35 pm to
quote:

think Louisiana is ripe for more breweries to open


They are opening like crazy down here. Not that it's any different than the rest of the US. I just don't see a brewery opening up in Houma and being able to make it off of mavens taste buds. Investors want to see returns.
Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
161246 posts
Posted on 8/31/15 at 8:38 pm to
Doesn't Houma have a small start up though? One that is still in the infancy stage only making small batches? Thought I read about last year during the Houma beer festival.
I mean if Thibodaux can support Mudbugs I'm sure Houma could support one.
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