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Why are there so many mediocre breweries out there?
Posted on 8/31/15 at 5:20 pm
Posted on 8/31/15 at 5:20 pm
Early reviews of Second Line Brewing got me to thinking.
You would assume that most people who decide to open a new brewery are somewhat of beer nerds/snobs. Generally, beer nerds/snobs agree on what constitutes a high-quality beer in comparison to what is mediocre or only "passable". Everyone has different tastes and appreciates different styles, but generally, most people who are really into beer can appreciate that Ghost in the Machine is a better brew than a standard Samuel Adams or a Longhammer IPA (or even most of the Bayou Teche or Tin Roof beers).
Why, then, are the vast majority of breweries so mediocre overall? Is it simply that it's really that hard to make one of the "great" beers? Do the average brewers know that their products are just kind of run-of-the-mill? I've never attempted to brew beer before so it's hard for me to figure out.
You would assume that most people who decide to open a new brewery are somewhat of beer nerds/snobs. Generally, beer nerds/snobs agree on what constitutes a high-quality beer in comparison to what is mediocre or only "passable". Everyone has different tastes and appreciates different styles, but generally, most people who are really into beer can appreciate that Ghost in the Machine is a better brew than a standard Samuel Adams or a Longhammer IPA (or even most of the Bayou Teche or Tin Roof beers).
Why, then, are the vast majority of breweries so mediocre overall? Is it simply that it's really that hard to make one of the "great" beers? Do the average brewers know that their products are just kind of run-of-the-mill? I've never attempted to brew beer before so it's hard for me to figure out.
This post was edited on 8/31/15 at 5:21 pm
Posted on 8/31/15 at 5:25 pm to zacata88
Are basing this post just in information you read here? Or have you gathered it from other publications?
Posted on 8/31/15 at 5:30 pm to zacata88
Same reason there are so many mediocre pizza joints, golf clubs, and candy bars. In a consumer culture volume, marketing, and price point often trump quality.
Posted on 8/31/15 at 5:32 pm to LSURoss
Great question. Bad timing. Will check on the answers to see if I need to chime in.
Posted on 8/31/15 at 5:36 pm to zacata88
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Generally, beer nerds/snobs agree on what constitutes a high-quality beer in comparison to what is mediocre or only "passable".
Not really. There is a wide latitude of opinion among beers snobs on any particular beer. Ghost and other top tier beers may have more agreement on their superiority. But for a new brewery, you don't want to copy Ghost, you have to come up with something different but just as good which is very difficult. I would say its like music in that sense.
Posted on 8/31/15 at 6:38 pm to zacata88
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Way too Early reviews of Second Line Brewing got me to thinking.
Give them a chance. I hear there are some solid recipes there, better than just mediocre. Scaling up from a homebrew to a larger system takes time and tweaking.
Maybe they will just be mediocre, but it's way too soon to pass judgment on something like that.
Posted on 8/31/15 at 6:45 pm to zacata88
OP, you got my word. If I ever hit the lottery I will build a brewery that shuns profit and only makes maven level beers.
Guest brewers for every batch.
Hops out the wahzoo
Quantities that barely fill a bottle.
Guest brewers for every batch.
Hops out the wahzoo
Quantities that barely fill a bottle.
Posted on 8/31/15 at 6:47 pm to fightin tigers
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Quantities that barely fill a bottle.
dat rare
Posted on 8/31/15 at 6:48 pm to Zappas Stache
I think their are a lot of factors. I think most restaurants think they have great food, but very few have critically acclaimed food. Breweries are no different. There are a lot of brewers out there that are the same way with their beer. In addition, many people will support the local joint, as long as the beer is decent.
I've talked to a few brewers, and usually they will tell you that they are trying to put their own spin on a beer, not copy the hottest beer out there.
Also, different brewers specialize in different styles of beers. Logsdon makes some great beers, but I wouldn't reckon that their IPA would be too good.
In Portland, there are a lot of neighborhood breweries. New ones are opening all the time. Occasionally, one goes out of business. I still see more new ones opening up than I see existing breweries closing, which means the number of breweries is still growing.
I think Louisiana is ripe for more breweries to open. A mediocre one can be successful, and a great one can really explode...
I've talked to a few brewers, and usually they will tell you that they are trying to put their own spin on a beer, not copy the hottest beer out there.
Also, different brewers specialize in different styles of beers. Logsdon makes some great beers, but I wouldn't reckon that their IPA would be too good.
In Portland, there are a lot of neighborhood breweries. New ones are opening all the time. Occasionally, one goes out of business. I still see more new ones opening up than I see existing breweries closing, which means the number of breweries is still growing.
I think Louisiana is ripe for more breweries to open. A mediocre one can be successful, and a great one can really explode...
Posted on 8/31/15 at 7:38 pm to fightin tigers
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If I ever hit the lottery I will build a brewery that shuns profit and only makes maven level beers
Yeah, if I ever get a hold of a large sum of frick you money, I'll have a brewery that caters to mavens from the start. I'm not saying it'd be good beer at the start, but I wouldn't be putting out a pale ale and kolsch as my launch flagships.
Posted on 8/31/15 at 7:43 pm to BottomlandBrew
frick the mavens, I'd be catering to me
Posted on 8/31/15 at 7:44 pm to BottomlandBrew
I'll bring you in you brew some beer that is derogatory towards Milo and his alma mater.
Posted on 8/31/15 at 8:04 pm to LoneStarTiger
Just don't leave Texas and brew elsewhere. That offends some people.
Posted on 8/31/15 at 8:11 pm to Icansee4miles
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by Icansee4miles
Just don't leave Texas and brew elsewhere. That offends some people.
If I do, I won't claim to be local
Posted on 8/31/15 at 8:25 pm to LoneStarTiger
Fair enough. Back to OP, the problem is some people see a brewery like Abita making bad/mediocre, occasionally average beer yet selling it all over the country by marketing and distributing aggressively, and think they can do the same. Tin Roof continues to make terrible beers, yet somehow they sell. Where's the incentive to pay out the arse for hops to make Ghost, or have the courage to tetu an entire batch when you've made something awful?
Posted on 8/31/15 at 8:28 pm to fightin tigers
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I'll bring you in you brew some beer that is derogatory towards Milo and his alma mater.
IWDI
Posted on 8/31/15 at 8:32 pm to LoneStarTiger
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I'd be catering to me
This.
Posted on 8/31/15 at 8:35 pm to Jax-Tiger
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think Louisiana is ripe for more breweries to open
They are opening like crazy down here. Not that it's any different than the rest of the US. I just don't see a brewery opening up in Houma and being able to make it off of mavens taste buds. Investors want to see returns.
Posted on 8/31/15 at 8:38 pm to TigerWise
Doesn't Houma have a small start up though? One that is still in the infancy stage only making small batches? Thought I read about last year during the Houma beer festival.
I mean if Thibodaux can support Mudbugs I'm sure Houma could support one.
I mean if Thibodaux can support Mudbugs I'm sure Houma could support one.
This post was edited on 8/31/15 at 8:41 pm
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