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re: What is your procedure for making roux from scratch

Posted on 9/29/15 at 11:16 am to
Posted by PlanoPrivateer
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Posted on 9/29/15 at 11:16 am to
A tip I learned is put the chopped onions in when the roux is just about ready. Doing this seems to make the roux a little darker.
Posted by MightyYat
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Posted on 9/29/15 at 11:20 am to
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A tip I learned is put the chopped onions in when the roux is just about ready. Doing this seems to make the roux a little darker.


Well, that makes no sense but since I've never tried it I guess I won't totally discount this tip.
Posted by Gris Gris
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Posted on 9/29/15 at 11:54 am to
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Make it the day before and drain off excess oil toward end of cook.


What excess oil? I've only seen excess oil in the jarred roux, but I don't have it when I make it. Do you have a lot of it?
Posted by Gris Gris
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Posted on 9/29/15 at 11:56 am to
quote:

A tip I learned is put the chopped onions in when the roux is just about ready. Doing this seems to make the roux a little darker.




I don't think it's making the roux (oil/flour) darker which is what gives you the flavor from the roux. I believe it may caramelize your onions making the mixture look a bit darker. The mixture or trinity tends to darken the roux when it's added to roux and sauteed before adding it all to the stock.
Posted by Nawlens Gator
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Posted on 9/29/15 at 1:12 pm to
I've gotten too lazy for the conventional roux method. Now days I heat the EVOO and add pre-browned flour (which I buy), mix it well, then add hot pre-microwaved trinity (always with okra) and stir like hell. After it stops steaming I add the pre-heated stock and let simmer. The sausage, chicken, whatever isn't added till much later.

My main focus now is on making the stock, which I do the day before (sometimes what I've previously frozen), which involves roasting (except for shrimp stock), a pressure cooker, and concentrating (by boiling).

I switched to this roux method when I realized it was just as good as the conventionally made roux, more expensive but much quicker.

This post was edited on 9/29/15 at 1:15 pm
Posted by lsufanintexas
Member since Sep 2006
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Posted on 9/29/15 at 2:19 pm to
I do a flour browning method. I dump my cup of flour in the cast iron and let it brown to a dark peanut butter color then wisk in my oil at the end. Just seems easier to me and darkens the roux up to a milk chocolate color. No burned bits or anything.


I learned this method here on the food board a few years back.
Posted by Count Chocula
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Posted on 9/29/15 at 2:27 pm to
(1) go to grocery store

(2) pick up a jar of Savoy's roux

(3) Pay for it

(4) bring home and put some in boiling water



Savoy's can pretty much darken flour with oil just like I can.
Posted by CHEDBALLZ
South Central LA
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 9/29/15 at 3:10 pm to
Equal parts CANOLA OIL to equal parts ALL PURPOSE flour.

Dump oil into skillet, I use a Winco 12".

When my oil gets hot it dump the flour in a little at a time and whisk it tigether.

Once it's whisked together I stir it with a wooden spoon. Over med high heat on my medium burner.

Cook till I get to a peanut butter color.

Remove from fire and stir for an additional 3-5 minutes to make sure it doesn't burn.
Posted by rodnreel
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Posted on 9/29/15 at 3:17 pm to
I was wondering how long it would take someone to comment on Savoy's roux. RTFQ like my teacher use to say.
Posted by Trout Bandit
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Posted on 9/29/15 at 3:22 pm to
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Savoy's roux

I'm not sure what this is. Are y'all talking about Savoie's roux??
Posted by Stadium Rat
Metairie
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Posted on 9/29/15 at 3:30 pm to
If you use jarred roux, you should know that you use 1 1/3 cups of that instead of a 1 cup to 1 cup homemade roux.
Posted by Count Chocula
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Posted on 9/29/15 at 3:31 pm to
quote:

Are y'all talking about Savoie's roux??
Yes...
Posted by jmh5724
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 9/30/15 at 12:04 am to
A true coonass don't measure no roux
Posted by Matisyeezy
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Posted on 9/30/15 at 12:19 am to
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I've gotten too lazy for the conventional roux method. Now days I heat the EVOO and add pre-browned flour (which I buy), mix it well, then add hot pre-microwaved trinity (always with okra) and stir like hell.


I'm glad that works for you. But no way in hell am I gonna microwave my seasonings and use a packaged mix. There are a lot of ways to make a roux. Many will produce a just fine product. But I personally enjoy the ritual of making my own. And because I enjoy it, it just tastes better to me.
Posted by MeridianDog
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Posted on 9/30/15 at 7:22 am to
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What excess oil? I've only seen excess oil in the jarred roux, but I don't have it when I make it. Do you have a lot of it?


Well oh great and wise Miz GG, I find that when I put too much oil in the skillet. I have excess oil at the end of my oven exposure.

I am a guy and find that I make mistakes all the time. The nice thing is that the roux settles to the bottom of the skillet and any excess oil I might have added easily drains away when the roux is ready.

Regardless of my casual measurements and excess oil, your method is a good one and works very well, every time. It is now my preferred way of cooking my roux.

That's all I want to say about that.

This post was edited on 9/30/15 at 7:28 am
Posted by Gris Gris
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Posted on 9/30/15 at 10:05 am to
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Well oh great and wise Miz GG


I wish!

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I find that when I put too much oil in the skillet. I have excess oil at the end of my oven exposure.


Ahh...

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Regardless of my casual measurements


I'm far from exact on my measurements. I eyeball more often than not and usually make more than I need.

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your method is a good one and works very well, every time.


Not my method, but I certainly adopted it. It definitely works every time. It appears to be no fail from my experience and it's a really helpful when you're making a large roux.

Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 9/30/15 at 11:55 am to
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Changed to this a year or so back at GG suggestion.

1:1 vegetable oil to AP flour or maybe a little less oil then flour. in Cast iron skillet. Into Oven at 350 degrees for maybe 2 -3 hours. Stir every 30-40 minutes.

Perfect every time. Take it as dark as you like and never burns. Or at least I never have burned it. Make it the day before and drain off excess oil toward end of cook.

makes really nice roux


I just made gumbo a few days ago. I was very rusty. I had excess oil too. I will cut back on the oil a bit next time. My red beans n rice turned out good last week.
Posted by MeridianDog
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Posted on 9/30/15 at 12:29 pm to
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Not my method, but I certainly adopted it.


Oh NOooooooOOoOoOoOoooooooo!

I started an "Oven Roux" entry on Wikipedia and gave you full credit for developing the method. I used your photo and home address, phone number, SS#, criminal record and everything...



Now it won't let me delete any of it.

Posted by Gris Gris
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Posted on 9/30/15 at 12:42 pm to
I had the criminal record expunged and I paid good money to do that! I was convicted of burning roux. I'd hoped that was gone forever.
This post was edited on 9/30/15 at 12:43 pm
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 9/30/15 at 1:01 pm to
I am going to be looking for your oven method idea before I make gumbo again. Is it in this thread?
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