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re: Total Wine & More Coming to Metairie
Posted on 11/20/19 at 8:52 pm to Panny Crickets
Posted on 11/20/19 at 8:52 pm to Panny Crickets
Yeah it was a cool idea, everyone loves those.
Not a bad way to get a quick $54k too.
Not a bad way to get a quick $54k too.
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Posted on 11/20/19 at 9:43 pm to notiger1997
It’s good to have different stores.
What’s great about wine is trying different wines.
So as long at Martins finds wines Total Wines doesn’t have they’ll let be fine.
And they have the food and whatnot
What’s great about wine is trying different wines.
So as long at Martins finds wines Total Wines doesn’t have they’ll let be fine.
And they have the food and whatnot
Posted on 11/20/19 at 9:46 pm to TH03
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If you only look at what you pay and not the effect it has on other businesses in the area, it's a great store.
Oh. Well, looks like it'll be a great store.
Posted on 11/21/19 at 5:28 am to Tigertown in ATL
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Whole shelves of Pappy.
Not even remotely close
Posted on 11/21/19 at 6:05 am to Fat Harry
The running of the blue hairs at Dorignacs is not going to change. They have a very loyal customer base. But, I'm looking forward to TW opening here. We're getting a little over saturated with wine stores in NO, so I could see them forcing a few to close, especially if their prices are reasonable.
Posted on 11/21/19 at 6:18 am to Skeezer
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Whole shelves of Pappy.
Not even remotely close
Can you really not tell when someone is playing around?
Posted on 11/21/19 at 8:30 am to Tigertown in ATL
Cant believe it took them so long to open a store in south Louisiana...Hope south baton rouge is next
Posted on 11/21/19 at 8:47 am to TH03
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-Uninformed "wine experts" pushing shitty wine because it's exclusive to Total wine and they make 40-50% margin or more on them.
That's the worst part of TW. They have pretty good selection and prices, but the way they push their house brand stuff (especially the whiskey which is what I'm usually shopping over there), is tiresome. No I don't want your crappy Two Stars bourbon. I'll buy Very Old Barton B-i-B for half the price.
Posted on 11/21/19 at 8:49 am to LSUFanHouston
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This is a game changer in Metairie... and will result in better selection and better prices for customers. And yes, will probably put some local liquor stores out of business.
but in Louisiana, you don't need to be a liquor store, so there's not many liquor only stores...they're competing with every grocery store, Costco, etc. Not just against Specs and Premier and the mom and pops in Texas because of the stupid draconian liquor laws in TX.
Posted on 11/21/19 at 9:19 am to busbeepbeep
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because of the stupid draconian liquor laws in TX.
Beyond stupid.
Walmart was fighting them, specifically a law prohibiting publically traded companies from selling liquor. It was ruled unconstitutional in 2018, but reversed on appeal.
Defeated by the cronies damguide was mentioning, namely the Texas package stores association and the spec's family.
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He said the industry group will continue "to fight for the preservation of thoughtful regulation to keep Texans safe, keep sensible restrictions on the retail sale of liquor, and support family-owned liquor store owners against the world's largest corporate entities that seek to inflate their profits by upending sensible state laws that protect consumers."
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The Texas Package Stores Association is disappointed in the trial court's decision to overturn decades of Texas law regulating the sale of liquor in Texas," said Lisa Rydman, a third-generation family member operating Spec's.
"We will appeal the trial court's decision and continue to fight for family-owned liquor store owners against the world's largest corporate entities that seek to inflate their profits by upending sensible state laws that protect both consumers and small businesses," Rydman said in an emailed response. "The Texas Legislature put a system in place to ensure safe access to alcoholic beverages in Texas, and that system has worked for over 80 years."
LOL aka we need these bullshite laws to preserve our business. Also funny how the top quote was after the reversal in August and the bottom one from spec's is from March 2018. Their talking point is the exact same, "we're protecting the consumer from evil!!"
And actually, after reading about this case again, frick em. Let's go, total wine. My only gripe remains pushing their house brands.
Posted on 11/21/19 at 9:28 am to Dam Guide
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Yeah somewhere like Louisville or Knoxville, they both have killer selections compared to anything besides highly specialized craft beer stores in the area.
What are some highly specialized craft beer stores in Knoxville that can compete with Total Wine?
Seriously... I'd love to find another good option here, but right now for good craft beer it's Total Wine, Whole Foods, or pay the insane markup at a place like Casual Pint.
Posted on 11/21/19 at 9:39 am to tigers1956
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Cant believe it took them so long to open a store in south Louisiana
Likely, this is at least partially because of LA's 6% markup law. Historically, they haven't moved into new markets with minimum markups, but they recently have started to.
It will be interesting to see what brands they run at 6% as "loss leaders" since some grocery stores run 6% prices on some items already.
Posted on 11/21/19 at 9:41 am to TH03
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TH03
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No, I just literally deal with this everyday so I kinda know what I'm talking about.
You do seem to know a lot about the industry and TW.
Just curious what you do... If you don't mind sharing?
Posted on 11/21/19 at 10:02 am to kennypowers816
I'm in fine wine sales. Total wine is sort of the benchmark for pricing for 70%+ of my business. Pain in my arse sometimes.
Forgot about the markup law, but it's not as much about loss leading as it is about selling something below the brand's value.
If the producer of say a certain type of popular vodka wants their retail price to be $19.99, they'll offer the store a cost of $14-15 so the seller can make 25-30% margin on it. Then they'll give deal pricing where if you buy X amount of cases, you can get it for $12, run it on special for $17.99 and still make 30%. Producer/distributor gets cases out the door, retailer sells more product and makes money. Win-win.
Total takes that $12 cost, and with Louisiana mandatory markup, sells it at $12.72. They mail flyers everywhere, and people come in to buy it. They can afford to make 72 cents on each bottle because people aren't just buying that vodka. They'll grab some wine, beer, etc or ask for help and be lead to the private label, 40% margin whiskey.
Then the producer is pissed because they've worked to create a value for their product that is consistent across the nation, give or take a dollar or so either way. But are they going to stop selling to total? No, their buying power is too big so they get to dictate a lot, very similar to Wal Mart.
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It will be interesting to see what brands they run at 6% as "loss leaders" since some grocery stores run 6% prices on some items already.
Forgot about the markup law, but it's not as much about loss leading as it is about selling something below the brand's value.
If the producer of say a certain type of popular vodka wants their retail price to be $19.99, they'll offer the store a cost of $14-15 so the seller can make 25-30% margin on it. Then they'll give deal pricing where if you buy X amount of cases, you can get it for $12, run it on special for $17.99 and still make 30%. Producer/distributor gets cases out the door, retailer sells more product and makes money. Win-win.
Total takes that $12 cost, and with Louisiana mandatory markup, sells it at $12.72. They mail flyers everywhere, and people come in to buy it. They can afford to make 72 cents on each bottle because people aren't just buying that vodka. They'll grab some wine, beer, etc or ask for help and be lead to the private label, 40% margin whiskey.
Then the producer is pissed because they've worked to create a value for their product that is consistent across the nation, give or take a dollar or so either way. But are they going to stop selling to total? No, their buying power is too big so they get to dictate a lot, very similar to Wal Mart.
Posted on 11/21/19 at 10:03 am to Stadium Rat
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Total Wine & More Coming to Metairie
Posted on 11/21/19 at 11:05 am to TH03
Makes sense from a fine wine perspective.
Speaking of... I saw your note about Clicquot. Is that something you sell as part of fine wine? Distributor side?
Speaking of... I saw your note about Clicquot. Is that something you sell as part of fine wine? Distributor side?
Posted on 11/21/19 at 12:52 pm to LSUBoo
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pay the insane markup at a place like Casual Pint
Was the place I was thinking of that could compete with selection, definitely not price. Total Wine is a life saver in Knoxville.
Cities with good selections don’t know how good they have it.
This post was edited on 11/21/19 at 12:53 pm
Posted on 11/21/19 at 1:21 pm to TH03
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Get ready for:
-Uninformed "wine experts" pushing shitty wine because it's exclusive to Total wine and they make 40-50% margin or more on them.
-Extreme loss leading on popular national wine/liquor brands forcing local mom and pops to match the price or lose business. Only problem is total wine can afford to lose/make shite margin. The only one who can really match them in Texas is HEB.
-Craft beer selection barely better than a local big box grocery store, and not better than speciality stores or places like CBD or uptown rouses or whole foods.
If you only look at what you pay and not the effect it has on other businesses in the area, it's a great store. The whole picture though will show you it's much like Walmart moving in and killing local businesses.
It's a great store. And it's bad for distributors, just like laws changing to account for craft breweries.
BUT, you are right that's very similar to Wal-Mart in that it's not good for small business. High expertise wine shops survive, but I'm sure it makes life tough for them. People don't really care that it puts package stores out of business, though.
Per rumors in Atlanta, a TW breakaway contingent announced plans to open a similar superstore (very well done), and TW responded by putting in a store like .4 miles from it. They're ruthless.
Posted on 11/21/19 at 5:01 pm to TH03
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-Craft beer selection barely better than a local big box grocery store, and not better than speciality stores or places like CBD or uptown rouses or whole foods.
one or two years ago i would have disagreed with this.
but lately, the beer selection at the total wines and bev mos that i've visited in phoenix has gone downhill. they've replaced a lot of their craft beer stock with hard seltzers and ciders.
even the selection at whole foods has followed suit. local liquor stores still maintain a strong selection (i'm thinking tops liquor in tempe) and the upscale groceries, like aj's (similar to aquistipace's) still keep a strong selection. but total wine's craft beer selection isn't what it used to be.
Posted on 11/21/19 at 7:28 pm to Panny Crickets
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This isn't the case in Fort Worth. Much better selection than Central Market and on par or better than Specs.
Or in NOVA. Huge selection of craft beers.
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