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Posted on 11/20/19 at 2:51 pm to Tigertown in ATL
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And it’s not the truth. It’s an opinion.
Total pushing their own product is the truth, not opinion.
Total cutting prices on national brands is the truth, not opinion.
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You just think too highly of your own evidently.
No, I just literally deal with this everyday so I kinda know what I'm talking about.
Posted on 11/20/19 at 4:03 pm to Fat Harry
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Sounds like a Dorignac's killer to me.
People who shop Dorignac's are pretty die hard. I dont think there will be significant difference in alcohol for someone to make two trips. It's not like Dorignac's has any type of limited selection when it comes to alcohol.
Posted on 11/20/19 at 4:18 pm to Saskwatch
Those shoppers aren’t crossing causeway when they got Dorignacs and Martins right there. They have about as loyal as a customer base as they come
Posted on 11/20/19 at 5:37 pm to GynoSandberg
The Total Wine and Specs by me in Dallas are both ho-hum for Craft beer. Sure they have it but not really anything I can't find at Whole Foods, Central Market or the Liquor store near me.
Posted on 11/20/19 at 6:18 pm to TH03
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TH03
Do you work with JR at CM in FW?
He brought in BIG BOY wine about 6 months ago.
Posted on 11/20/19 at 6:30 pm to Panny Crickets
Not me, but I know who does.
He just brought in 180 cases of clicquot arrow packages and got them to custom make the fort worth magnet. Sold all of them in 1 day.
These ones:
He just brought in 180 cases of clicquot arrow packages and got them to custom make the fort worth magnet. Sold all of them in 1 day.
These ones:
Posted on 11/20/19 at 6:42 pm to TH03
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No, I just literally deal with this everyday so I kinda know what I'm talking about.
That's what I thought. Total has an awesome craft selection in every one I have ever been in. In the smaller cities, it destroys most other places in what you can get and even comparing it to a big box grocery store is laughable.
Keep fighting the good fight for your crony buddies full of corruption and political garbage when it comes to alcohol sales though. A lot of those bastards have screwed us for ages, don't mind seeing some of them get knocked down a few notches.
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Total pushing their own product is the truth, not opinion.
There is an easy way to solve this, be an informed consumer and buy what you like. Best Buy has the stupid monster cables that no one should ever buy and they sucker people into buying. Big brands want to make money, shop smart and you won't fall for it.
This post was edited on 11/20/19 at 6:44 pm
Posted on 11/20/19 at 7:12 pm to Dam Guide
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That's what I thought. Total has an awesome craft selection in every one I have ever been in. In the smaller cities, it destroys most other places in what you can get and even comparing it to a big box grocery store is laughable.
I already said I'm not dying on the beer selection hill.
Though Zappa did agree with me so maybe our stores just suck.
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Keep fighting the good fight for your crony buddies full of corruption and political garbage when it comes to alcohol sales though. A lot of those bastards have screwed us for ages, don't mind seeing some of them get knocked down a few notches.
I don't even understand this in response to me essentially just defending locally owned businesses.
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There is an easy way to solve this, be an informed consumer and buy what you like. Best Buy has the stupid monster cables that no one should ever buy and they sucker people into buying. Big brands want to make money, shop smart and you won't fall for it.
Yes, but a consumer wants to trust the perceived expert to help them find a recommendation. Not everyone has the time to become an informed consumer in every facet of their purchasing.
It's essentially a store treating a customer as a mark at a car lot.
Posted on 11/20/19 at 7:21 pm to geauxpurple
Meh
Went to one before and searched for a specific Brunello and all I found was a 17 Banfi. Seems like a Republic and InBev mega store. I’ll still by my Rhône’s and Tuscans at Hoppers or Wine Seller.
Went to one before and searched for a specific Brunello and all I found was a 17 Banfi. Seems like a Republic and InBev mega store. I’ll still by my Rhône’s and Tuscans at Hoppers or Wine Seller.
This post was edited on 11/20/19 at 7:21 pm
Posted on 11/20/19 at 7:24 pm to TH03
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Though Zappa did agree with me so maybe our stores just suck.
Yeah somewhere like Louisville or Knoxville, they both have killer selections compared to anything besides highly specialized craft beer stores in the area.
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I don't even understand this in response to me essentially just defending locally owned businesses.
Alcohol licensing to be able to sell alcohol has a ton of politics in it, especially depending on the state, that's a lot more open to abuse compared to other local business options. When it comes to defending local business, it's not one I care about in the slightest. God forbid craft brew places don't want to deal with the middle man shite in Louisiana. Got to have laws for that.
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Yes, but a consumer wants to trust the perceived expert to help them find a recommendation. Not everyone has the time to become an informed consumer in every facet of their purchasing.
It's essentially a store treating a customer as a mark at a car lot
If you go to any big box store expecting subject matter experts, you are extremely naive. This is an ok boomer moment. This is pretty much true in every big box version of stores. Ex: Home Depot, Best Buy or Walmart.
This post was edited on 11/20/19 at 7:29 pm
Posted on 11/20/19 at 7:32 pm to Dam Guide
I’ve gotten some good recs at Total Wine.
Citadelle gin as an example.
I’m not going to trust the guy at the local “mom and pop” store to a greater degree. I’m not impressed with the type of people running them. They mostly don’t have any customer service skills at all.
Citadelle gin as an example.
I’m not going to trust the guy at the local “mom and pop” store to a greater degree. I’m not impressed with the type of people running them. They mostly don’t have any customer service skills at all.
Posted on 11/20/19 at 7:33 pm to Dam Guide
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If you go to any big box store expecting subject matter experts, you are extremely naive.
I mean, have you met the average consumer? Most buy what they buy because the label was pretty or they saw an ad for it.
Like 90% of customers have no fricking idea what they want to buy and are dependent on the staff to help them.
If you go to a local fine wine shop, the people there know what they're talking about and will give you a better recommendation. If these places are put out of business, you're forced to go to a place like total/specs where the only recommendation will be whatever wine their pushing to make themselves money.
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This is an ok boomer moment
I agree. You misrepresenting what I'm saying is very boomerish.
Posted on 11/20/19 at 7:36 pm to TH03
I would 100% defer TH on this topic.
If we were talking levees or maybe the TN River valley authority, or something like that, I'd defer to damguide.
But in this thread I'll defer to TH03
If we were talking levees or maybe the TN River valley authority, or something like that, I'd defer to damguide.
But in this thread I'll defer to TH03
Posted on 11/20/19 at 7:44 pm to SuperSaint
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I’m not going to trust the guy at the local “mom and pop” store to a greater degree. I’m not impressed with the type of people running them. They mostly don’t have any customer service skills at all.
That's why Central market is the best. Independent fine wine shop in the body of an upscale grocery store. Best of both worlds.
Posted on 11/20/19 at 8:10 pm to TH03
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I mean, have you met the average consumer? Most buy what they buy because the label was pretty or they saw an ad for it.
Yes, I worked big box in college. It’s hard to feel bad for those people that buy monster cables or big box wine. Internet has changed the game though, it’s easy to google search for recommendations and harder to get people to buy stupid arse monster cables, boomers were always an easy mark.
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you're forced to go to a place like total/specs where the only recommendation will be whatever wine their pushing to make themselves money.
Internet is a good resource. You live in an area with good stores it sounds like, I’d rather have a total wine over anything in Chatt.
Local liquor stores that treat their customers right will find a way to survive. Was watching a vid where a lady up north would open anything for you to try and didn’t save the good shite for special customers. She popped them open for everyone to try at special events. She has people driving in from hundreds of miles away to shop at her local joint.
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talking levees
That would be a bad idea, lol. I don’t know shite about that. I deal with sparky stuff.
This post was edited on 11/20/19 at 8:13 pm
Posted on 11/20/19 at 8:22 pm to Dam Guide
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Internet has changed the game though, it’s easy to google search for recommendations and harder to get people to buy stupid arse monster cables, boomers were always an easy mark.
Yeah, but just like boomers are easy marks in store, millennials and younger are easy marks on social media. Alcohol brands are hiring influencers now to promote their stuff, but they'll make it look organic. Like "oh what a day, needed some wine" but the label will be clear and obvious to anyone seeing the picture. Similar to bang energy, just on a MUCH more subtle and less obvious scale.
The marks are still there, companies are finding out how to exploit it online. It's only going to ramp up with the impending explosion of e-commerce. It's gonna be nuts when online alcohol purchasing is no different from ordering anything else on Amazon.
Posted on 11/20/19 at 8:31 pm to TH03
Yes sir, he got us a few.
Friends that were over in Paris got them custom made for some little towns. Pretty cool.
Friends that were over in Paris got them custom made for some little towns. Pretty cool.
Posted on 11/20/19 at 8:34 pm to TH03
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Yeah, but just like boomers are easy marks in store, millennials and younger are easy marks on social media. Alcohol brands are hiring influencers now to promote their stuff, but they'll make it look organic. Like "oh what a day, needed some wine" but the label will be clear and obvious to anyone seeing the picture. Similar to bang energy, just on a MUCH more subtle and less obvious scale.
The marks are still there, companies are finding out how to exploit it online. It's only going to ramp up with the impending explosion of e-commerce. It's gonna be nuts when online alcohol purchasing is no different from ordering anything else on Amazon.
Look at the beer market though, the big boys are gobbling up craft beers left and right because the new generations aren’t sucking down the same piss beers at the same rate as the boomers. Seeing that in whiskey fad now too. Much more diverse out there.
I totally want an Amazon for alcohol to come take out total wine like what is happening to Best Buy. Your industry has managed to insulate itself somewhat through politics though. Total wine is rocking that boat some it seems.
Bottom line, definitely trust you to pick out something awesome to drink, no way trust to choose what’s best for my needs as a consumer. I would say the same for myself and my industry though. We got ourselves a nice little monopoly outside of Texas.
This post was edited on 11/20/19 at 8:36 pm
Posted on 11/20/19 at 8:50 pm to Dam Guide
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Look at the beer market though, the big boys are gobbling up craft beers left and right because the new generations aren’t sucking down the same piss beers at the same rate as the boomers. Seeing that in whiskey fad now too. Much more diverse out there.
The shift is happening. Almost every new brand launch I've been a part of recently is targeting the same demo. Older millennial females with college degrees, likely married, etc etc. Everything is about being unique and original. The focus is a label/package or a story. Boomers are still sucking down the same brands, millennials are trying everything.
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I totally want an Amazon for alcohol to come take out total wine like what is happening to Best Buy. Your industry has managed to insulate itself somewhat through politics though. Total wine is rocking that boat some it seems.
Amazon is rocking that boat, drizly is, favor is, etc. We're in the middle of a huge transformation project ourselves. Everyone is trying to prevent ending up like blockbuster after Netflix.
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Bottom line, definitely trust you to pick out something awesome to drink, no way trust to choose what’s best for my needs as a consumer.
Hey I give great recs!
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