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Posted on 5/26/21 at 5:06 pm
Posted by Liger43
Member since Sep 2019
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Posted on 5/26/21 at 5:06 pm
Defrost ground beef. Forgot to take it out this morning to thaw. Any suggestions?
Posted by msap9020
Great White North
Member since Feb 2015
2194 posts
Posted on 5/26/21 at 5:07 pm to
Uhhhhhhh.......microwave?
Posted by RatherHunt
Louisiana
Member since Feb 2021
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Posted on 5/26/21 at 5:09 pm to
Place the frozen pack of meat in the sink in luke warm water.
Posted by Slagathor
Makin' jokes about your teeny tiny
Member since Jul 2007
39015 posts
Posted on 5/26/21 at 5:11 pm to
I have never defrosted frozen ground beef prior to cooking in my life

Is that wrong?

Posted by msap9020
Great White North
Member since Feb 2015
2194 posts
Posted on 5/26/21 at 5:17 pm to
quote:

Is that wrong?


Depends on what you are using it for.

Tacos or sloppy joes.....no.

Meatloaf, meatballs or burgers....yes.

Posted by HollywoodCourt
Underground
Member since Aug 2017
141 posts
Posted on 5/26/21 at 5:18 pm to
What are you making.
Posted by 9001
Pools closed
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Posted on 5/26/21 at 5:19 pm to
Warm water in the sink or else your going to start cooking it
Posted by Slagathor
Makin' jokes about your teeny tiny
Member since Jul 2007
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Posted on 5/26/21 at 5:19 pm to
quote:

Meatloaf, meatballs or burgers....yes.


I probably wouldn't have used frozen ground beef for those, so this is encouraging for my adulting self-esteem
Posted by J Murdah
Member since Jun 2008
40227 posts
Posted on 5/26/21 at 5:21 pm to
not unless you've found a way to break the laws of physics
Posted by keakar
Member since Jan 2017
30152 posts
Posted on 5/26/21 at 5:22 pm to
takes less time to run to the store and get fresh ground beef then trying to fight defrosting it in a hurry.

had you done this instead of posting here you would already be home with it ready to cook
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 5/26/21 at 5:25 pm to
Running lukewarm water in the sink is the best way I’ve found.
Posted by BigDropper
Member since Jul 2009
8839 posts
Posted on 5/26/21 at 5:33 pm to
quote:

Any suggestions?


Cook something else!
Posted by t00f
Not where you think I am
Member since Jul 2016
102343 posts
Posted on 5/26/21 at 5:39 pm to
Submerge sealed meat in cold water and change out with more cold water as the water gets warm
Posted by Btrtigerfan
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Posted on 5/26/21 at 5:41 pm to
Sous Vide, Baw.
Posted by J Murdah
Member since Jun 2008
40227 posts
Posted on 5/26/21 at 5:59 pm to
How would frozen meat make water warm
Posted by t00f
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Posted on 5/26/21 at 6:01 pm to
Protip good ole Murda, don’t put in fridge. The water will start to get warm as the meat defrosts. Change it with cold tap water
Posted by BigDropper
Member since Jul 2009
8839 posts
Posted on 5/26/21 at 6:13 pm to
quote:

Submerge sealed meat in cold water and change out with more cold water as the water gets warm
quote:

Protip good ole Murda, don’t put in fridge. The water will start to get warm as the meat defrosts. Change it with cold tap water

That's not how thermal dynamics works.
This post was edited on 5/26/21 at 6:15 pm
Posted by t00f
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Member since Jul 2016
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Posted on 5/26/21 at 6:16 pm to
bullshite. It’s just not with microwave quickness. I would never defrost meat in a microwave.

USDA guidelines

Cold Water Thawing
This method is faster than refrigerator thawing but requires more attention. The food must be in a leak-proof package or plastic bag. If the bag leaks, bacteria from the air or surrounding environment could be introduced into the food. Also, the meat tissue may absorb water, resulting in a watery product.
The bag should be submerged in cold tap water, changing the water every 30 minutes so it continues to thaw. Small packages of meat, poultry or seafood — about a pound — may thaw in an hour or less. A 3-to 4-pound package may take 2 to 3 hours. For whole turkeys, estimate about 30 minutes per pound. If thawed completely, the food must be cooked immediately.
Foods thawed by the cold water method should be cooked before refreezing.
Posted by BigDropper
Member since Jul 2009
8839 posts
Posted on 5/26/21 at 6:32 pm to
If you put frozen meat in cold water, the water will not get warm, it will get colder. Heat flows from hot to cold objects. When a hot and a cold body are in thermal contact, they exchange heat energy until they reach thermal equilibrium, with the hot body cooling down and the cold body warming up.

The frozen (solid) product is colder than the water (liquid) and therefore heat transfers from the water to the frozen product until thermal equilibrium is achieved. Another way to say it is:

quote:

The second law of thermodynamics states that in a natural thermodynamic process, the sum of the entropies of the interacting thermodynamic systems never decreases. Another form of the statement is that heat does not spontaneously pass from a colder body to a warmer body.


Frozen meat in liquid water will cause the water to cool, not warm. As you stated twice in the above quotes.

Thermal dynamics don't work dat way, baw.
Posted by t00f
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Member since Jul 2016
102343 posts
Posted on 5/26/21 at 6:37 pm to
Of course initially the water gets cooler but as the water interacts with room temperature and the meat starts to defrost the water starts to warm up.

I do this all the time.

I also quoted from the USDA on the safe practices and why.
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