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re: PuttaDaForkDown
Posted on 1/3/12 at 10:12 am to Benchwarmer
Posted on 1/3/12 at 10:12 am to Benchwarmer
anyonenow if wonton soup minus the wontons is ok for Atkins induction?
Posted on 1/3/12 at 10:22 am to countrystateofmind
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countrystateofmind
welcome. no OT-asshats here. we won't tell you to PIIHB or GTFO or :csb: its quite refreshing actually.
as for atkins (and the comment about the wonton), i would say no.
for induction..KISS. you really want to be aware of everything going into your body right now; buy meat & poultry & cheese fresh at the supermarket..don't eat out PERIOD and try to avoid any prepared food which could have tons of hidden flour and other bad stuff.
as for cheese, go with hard cheeses; avoid the processed stuff for now while you're getting off the ground.
my biggest piece of advice on any diet is AVOID EATING OUT AT ALL COSTS!! seriously, you will have the best chance at success by eating stuff you prepare and which you can regulate what goes into it.
ps atkins isn't really dieting when you can eat the hell out of some ribeyes and chicken wings!
get ready to be amazed!
Posted on 1/3/12 at 10:47 am to CAD703X
Thanks alot CAD!! Day 2 is going pretty well...Ate breakfst this morning and a snack and its almost lunch time and Im not even hungry... but know I need to go ahead and eat anyway....
Posted on 1/3/12 at 12:25 pm to countrystateofmind
my thoughts:
- weigh every day (AND RECORD THE NUMBER IN EXCEL!!!); so you can start to get a feel for how your body reacts to food/sodium/water-retention; 5-7 pound swings in a week is not uncommon and if you weigh once-a-week and hit a bad (or good) weight you could lose motivation
- even though atkins is 'all you can eat'; try disciplining yourself (this gets easier after the first couple of weeks) to eating less to help the weight drop faster
- i dont believe in a big breakfast or that skipping lunch is a bad thing. this is a race; time vs. calories..you want MORE time to pass while consuming FEWER calories = WIN. try to consume as few calories over each 24 hour period as possible.
- the unique twist with atkins is that you lose weight FASTER eating fats than you do simply by fasting. putting your body into a ketogenic state turns the fat-burner on and it will go into overdrive if you starve it of carbs and burn the hell out of some body fat.
- dont sweat (literally) the working out right now..get into a groove losing weight without that because you can always add it later. the biggest mistake you can make early into a diet is getting excited about working out and either (a) eating more because you feel you deserve it after a hard workout or (b) eating more because you're hungrier..then miss a day or more of working out and find your weight actually starts creeping up.
see my sig. GET THE FREAKING EATING UNDER CONTROL FIRST!!!! you can always workout later once you have solved how to eat & lose weight. trust me on this. you do NOT need to burn yourself out exercising to lose weight like crazy.
- a sidebar to the above; working out to the point every muscle in your body is sore (basically tearing down your muscles) will result in a GAIN the next day; your muscles will hold water while they're healing so don't do a hard workout, eat 800 calories and expect to see a drop on the scales..just an FYI so you won't get frustrated. after 2-3 days the soreness (and water) will work its way out of your system.
a personal trainer told me this about my abs. he said you don't need to do a SINGLE crunch to have abs. they're already there; you just can't see them because they have a layer of fat over them. until the fat is gone, doing 50,000 crunches a day is an exercise in futility. he said you can have amazing looking 6-pack (once the fat is gone) in as little as 2 weeks of moderate core training.
last, keep coming back here and we'll give you good (and bad) advice
ETA: regarding exercising; i will point out i'm a hardcore cyclist and doing a 100+ miles on a hard ride with climbs doesn't mean i weigh in 5lbs less the next day. in fact, its hard to lose weight with the kind of riding i've been doing. i lost most of my weight in the off season and once i started training, my weight basically froze where it was and i didnt lose a thing even though i put in over 5,000 miles and 200,000 feet of climbing last year.
- weigh every day (AND RECORD THE NUMBER IN EXCEL!!!); so you can start to get a feel for how your body reacts to food/sodium/water-retention; 5-7 pound swings in a week is not uncommon and if you weigh once-a-week and hit a bad (or good) weight you could lose motivation
- even though atkins is 'all you can eat'; try disciplining yourself (this gets easier after the first couple of weeks) to eating less to help the weight drop faster
- i dont believe in a big breakfast or that skipping lunch is a bad thing. this is a race; time vs. calories..you want MORE time to pass while consuming FEWER calories = WIN. try to consume as few calories over each 24 hour period as possible.
- the unique twist with atkins is that you lose weight FASTER eating fats than you do simply by fasting. putting your body into a ketogenic state turns the fat-burner on and it will go into overdrive if you starve it of carbs and burn the hell out of some body fat.
- dont sweat (literally) the working out right now..get into a groove losing weight without that because you can always add it later. the biggest mistake you can make early into a diet is getting excited about working out and either (a) eating more because you feel you deserve it after a hard workout or (b) eating more because you're hungrier..then miss a day or more of working out and find your weight actually starts creeping up.
see my sig. GET THE FREAKING EATING UNDER CONTROL FIRST!!!! you can always workout later once you have solved how to eat & lose weight. trust me on this. you do NOT need to burn yourself out exercising to lose weight like crazy.
- a sidebar to the above; working out to the point every muscle in your body is sore (basically tearing down your muscles) will result in a GAIN the next day; your muscles will hold water while they're healing so don't do a hard workout, eat 800 calories and expect to see a drop on the scales..just an FYI so you won't get frustrated. after 2-3 days the soreness (and water) will work its way out of your system.
a personal trainer told me this about my abs. he said you don't need to do a SINGLE crunch to have abs. they're already there; you just can't see them because they have a layer of fat over them. until the fat is gone, doing 50,000 crunches a day is an exercise in futility. he said you can have amazing looking 6-pack (once the fat is gone) in as little as 2 weeks of moderate core training.
last, keep coming back here and we'll give you good (and bad) advice
ETA: regarding exercising; i will point out i'm a hardcore cyclist and doing a 100+ miles on a hard ride with climbs doesn't mean i weigh in 5lbs less the next day. in fact, its hard to lose weight with the kind of riding i've been doing. i lost most of my weight in the off season and once i started training, my weight basically froze where it was and i didnt lose a thing even though i put in over 5,000 miles and 200,000 feet of climbing last year.
This post was edited on 1/3/12 at 12:34 pm
Posted on 1/3/12 at 12:56 pm to CAD703X
Question for you atkiners- when you measure 'a cup' of salad, how accurate do you measure it and how much difference does it make between iceberg and something fluffier and more leafy like baby spinach?
Made a salad for lunch today with baby spinach, cherry tomato (5-6), cycumber (about 1/6 of a normal cucumber, sliced turkey (5-6 slices), cubes of pepper jack (about 8 small cubes, avocado, (1/2) and ranch dressing (2 oz).
I've been doing some thinking about Atkins and might give it a shot, or some version of it.
ETA: Looks like the salad had about 17-18 carbs in it. No tomatoes, and different dressing would have been better.
Made a salad for lunch today with baby spinach, cherry tomato (5-6), cycumber (about 1/6 of a normal cucumber, sliced turkey (5-6 slices), cubes of pepper jack (about 8 small cubes, avocado, (1/2) and ranch dressing (2 oz).
I've been doing some thinking about Atkins and might give it a shot, or some version of it.
ETA: Looks like the salad had about 17-18 carbs in it. No tomatoes, and different dressing would have been better.
This post was edited on 1/3/12 at 1:07 pm
Posted on 1/3/12 at 1:35 pm to CAD703X
Also drinking at least 64 oz of water/day is kreeewshull (that's Bobby J talk for crucial)
Posted on 1/3/12 at 5:58 pm to Benchwarmer
This "induction flu" is no joke.. Ugh. Is this normal going in to day 3?
Posted on 1/3/12 at 7:16 pm to countrystateofmind
I've never had the induction flu.
Depending on your carb count, it is possible you might need to take some fiber supplements.
As far as the salad question, I eyeball the measurements, but in my case, my carb numbers are usually well below 20 so a slight miscalculation on the salad isn't going to toss me out of induction.
I do differ a bit from Cad's view of Atkins. I don't think it is an eating free for all( yes I know he doesn't really believe that but his calories are higher than I would recommend). I kept my calories around 1500 or less most days when I was really working Atkins.
For instance, today my calorie count will probably finish off at 1450.
Depending on your carb count, it is possible you might need to take some fiber supplements.
As far as the salad question, I eyeball the measurements, but in my case, my carb numbers are usually well below 20 so a slight miscalculation on the salad isn't going to toss me out of induction.
I do differ a bit from Cad's view of Atkins. I don't think it is an eating free for all( yes I know he doesn't really believe that but his calories are higher than I would recommend). I kept my calories around 1500 or less most days when I was really working Atkins.
For instance, today my calorie count will probably finish off at 1450.
Posted on 1/3/12 at 7:47 pm to countrystateofmind
When I first started Atkins, I felt like crap for about a week. After that, felt great, no hunger, rapid weight loss. Welcome to the board. 
Posted on 1/4/12 at 5:00 am to ChenierauTigre
after 2 days....
-4 lbs!
(actually almost 5 pounds but I rounded up)
kind of surprised after only 2 days....
so far so good other than slight induction flu
353/349/250
-4 lbs!
(actually almost 5 pounds but I rounded up)
kind of surprised after only 2 days....
so far so good other than slight induction flu
353/349/250
This post was edited on 1/4/12 at 5:01 am
Posted on 1/4/12 at 6:21 am to countrystateofmind
I'm now down about 8 pounds from my holiday peak.
Today will be a challenge. It is office lunch day. I need to just stay away from the kitchen at lunch time. Out of sight, out of mind.
This post was edited on 1/4/12 at 6:28 am
Posted on 1/4/12 at 7:01 am to TigerMyth36
170/155/147
done in by my daughter's devil food cupcakes.
it's a new day.
done in by my daughter's devil food cupcakes.
it's a new day.
Posted on 1/4/12 at 8:35 am to countrystateofmind
quote:
This "induction flu" is no joke.. Ugh. Is this normal going in to day 3?
I've had this and the times I've had long cheat weekends I feel as though I get a touch of it as I get back into Atkins the following week. When I first start back I dont watch calories too close and I tend to eat more for breakfast,less at lunch and not much for dinner. I eat when I'm hungry. If you starve yourself you may get unmotivated. Drink lots of water and learn to snack/eat more healthy. Good veggies and make your own salad dressing using olive oil, avoid processed foods.Sometimes my dinner is a few tablespoons of natural p-nut butter. As time goes on you will feel as though you don't need as many calories/big meals. I started cardio the same time I began Atkins again, 4-5 days a week at first, now 6 days a week, this seems to motivate me. If you look at it as a lifestyle change and not just this "diet time" you may do better.I'm down almost 30 lbs in 3 mos and ready to get rid of my 36 waist pants and try 34's!
225/198/185
Posted on 1/4/12 at 8:38 am to LSUEnvy
Has anyone calculated their BMI? Mine says at 5'11" I should be around 175-180 lbs, so I will probably need to reassess my goal weight. What do y'all think/ whats your BMI and have you looked at this when setting your goal?
Posted on 1/4/12 at 8:56 am to LSUGUMBO
A cup of salad is supposed to be one measured cup. I started out measuring, but over time I just learned about how much salad is one cup and it's about a heaping handful for me.
Yeah that salad sounds delicious but the cucumbers, tomatoes, and avocado are going to ramp up the carb count.
363/285/250. I've been bad, bad at the diet the past week or so. I drank 2 bottles of wine throughout last week and then yall know about my excursion Saturday night. Monday night I went out for drink specials at my normal place and had a few seasonal Blue Moons. (dark beer, really good btw). But.. Before I spiral out of control, I'm nipping it in the bud and saying no more cheating. On the 14th I'm signing up to a gym to start lifting and am going to change my diet up to a paleo diet. After doing some research, I think a paleo diet is much more helpful when lifting. I know, CAD, if it ain't broke don't fix it. But there's such a lack of carbs when on Atkins that your body depletes itself of glycogen stores in your muscles and when lifting, the glycogen stores give you longevity and help you lift more for longer. So, eating fruits on the paleo diet will help remedy that.
envy, BMI isn't a great way to go about finding what you want to weigh tbh. You have to just see where you feel right. BMI also wants me to be 180 pounds, but at 6'3 there's no way that's right. Hell, at 6'3 285 people are telling me that I have a gut but I don't really look fat anymore. So just be your own judge.
Yeah that salad sounds delicious but the cucumbers, tomatoes, and avocado are going to ramp up the carb count.
363/285/250. I've been bad, bad at the diet the past week or so. I drank 2 bottles of wine throughout last week and then yall know about my excursion Saturday night. Monday night I went out for drink specials at my normal place and had a few seasonal Blue Moons. (dark beer, really good btw). But.. Before I spiral out of control, I'm nipping it in the bud and saying no more cheating. On the 14th I'm signing up to a gym to start lifting and am going to change my diet up to a paleo diet. After doing some research, I think a paleo diet is much more helpful when lifting. I know, CAD, if it ain't broke don't fix it. But there's such a lack of carbs when on Atkins that your body depletes itself of glycogen stores in your muscles and when lifting, the glycogen stores give you longevity and help you lift more for longer. So, eating fruits on the paleo diet will help remedy that.
envy, BMI isn't a great way to go about finding what you want to weigh tbh. You have to just see where you feel right. BMI also wants me to be 180 pounds, but at 6'3 there's no way that's right. Hell, at 6'3 285 people are telling me that I have a gut but I don't really look fat anymore. So just be your own judge.
This post was edited on 1/4/12 at 9:15 am
Posted on 1/4/12 at 9:09 am to Hulkklogan
hulk. im pretty competitive bike racing on atkins alone and trust me...there is no pain like your heartrate redlined for 3-4 straight hours...not sure paleo would improve on my endurance.
envy...bmi is almost useless as a measurement..its like shooting a Target with a shotgun..a few people will fit it but it assumes almost NO muscle definition in that number.
instead focus on bmr(basal metabolic rate) and y to keep your calorie intake below that.it drops asyou lose weight so you will need to get accustomed to eating less and less.
envy...bmi is almost useless as a measurement..its like shooting a Target with a shotgun..a few people will fit it but it assumes almost NO muscle definition in that number.
instead focus on bmr(basal metabolic rate) and y to keep your calorie intake below that.it drops asyou lose weight so you will need to get accustomed to eating less and less.
Posted on 1/4/12 at 10:21 am to Hulkklogan
Hulk, what gym are you going to join....
I am at Calloways......
I am at Calloways......
Posted on 1/4/12 at 10:30 am to CAD703X
quote:
hulk. im pretty competitive bike racing on atkins alone and trust me...there is no pain like your heartrate redlined for 3-4 straight hours...not sure paleo would improve on my endurance.
I meant endurance in lifting. Ripping the muscles and muscle failure. I went lift with my roommate and even though the weights did not feel too heavy for me by any means, after doing squats my quads were giving out. The muscles also recover more slowly. I took a full week for me to be able to use my quads when I walked, besides being sore, they would give out on me from time to time. Roommate and other lifters I asked said that's normal, but should only last for a day or two, not a week.
Posted on 1/4/12 at 1:15 pm to Hulkklogan
quote:
I took a full week for me to be able to use my quads when I walked, besides being sore, they would give out on me from time to time.
i know a little somp'n somp'n about sore quads.
my legs are freaking hard as steel right now..too bad my upper body is still flabby and no definition
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