re: PuttaDaForkDown

170/152/147

grandkids came to town. Wife's lasagna (had seconds) followed by cake and ice cream. taco joe's for supper.

= blowfish today.

back to work this week

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You said you're wanting to add some fruits and stuff earlier. There are several diets that work, and there is nothing wrong with using more than one if you have a lot of weight to lose. I enjoy Atkins, but it sucks for me during the summer months when fruits and veggies are at their best. That's why I switched over to Weight Watchers. My last 4 weeks of Atkins resulted in 8 lbs lost. My first 4 weeks of WW have resulted in 12 lbs lost.

Boredom is my biggest enemy, and I get bored with diets, especially restrictive diets. Changing things up is not a bad thing, and it prevents your body from adapting to what you're doing.

I'm not saying WW is better than Atkins. In fact, neither has been as successful for me as Body for Life was a few years back. However, there's nothing that says we can only use one. I will warn that if you make a switch, make it completely. Get into the new diet and study it the way you did Atkins at the beginning. Don't try to incorporate parts of Atkins and parts of another diet or you'll end up doing the things you like from both diets.

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Well I was thinking about taking up a "caveman" diet where it's still low carb outside of fruits. The natural human diet has always been a hearty mix of meat, fruits, veggies and nuts. Atkins cuts out fruits for the carbs obviously, but I think we're missing a lot of nutrients (and admittedly, deliciousness ) by cutting out fruits. I wouldn't buy juice, those almost always have added sugars, but just apples, oranges, grapes, etc. My idea was to do basically cut carbs to 20g per day outside of fruits, and eat 1 or 2 fruits a day. I'm the same way, boredom with the diet is a big hurdle I'm trying to overcome. That's why I started cooking and eating outside of the "restrictive" box. I still maintain low carb, between 30 and 40 a day, but it's definitely not traditional. I like to cook, I like to cook well, and I like to experiment. Learning to cook low carb items that are still really good is an adventure and that's been my favorite part of the diet. Eating a chicken breast for lunch and a hamburger patty for dinner every day would drive me crazy. I can do it short term but long term.. there's just no way. I'm finishing off my chuck pot roast today and tomorrow I'm going to go with the restrictive eating, "high fat plateau buster" that CAD described. I'm sure it'll bust me through and I'll give it a while until I'm extremely bored with it and I'll want to change it up again.

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I know Myth said he doesn't buy into it, but when I was on Atkins, I used the "old scool" Atkins method. I kept carbs below 20 total carbs (didn't fool with the net carb stuff), and ate a ton of protein and fat. I never counted calories and ate like a pig. I would eat at Ryan's or Golden Coral 3 times or more per week and pigged out. The only week I didn't lose weight was when i had a planned cheat day.

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Honestly, 20- carbs per day isn't "old school". I don't get why everyone thinks Atkins is just Induction You're SUPPOSED to move up your carbs to learn how to eat low carb and how different foods affect your body. But I get what you mean.

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You're SUPPOSED to move up your carbs to learn how to eat low carb and how different foods affect your body. But I get what you mean.

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Only once you have lost a large chunk of what you need to lose. We can agree to disagree but you weren't remotely close to the proper time to switch to OWL.

And he wasn't talking about that. He was talking about my belief that you should always count calories and I will stick with that belief.

New Atkins does have a calorie limit which is why I said Old School.

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First to be 10 down so 185 for you and 165 for me

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:looking for the mf-ing doublebird emoticon:

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I did almost no bike riding last week and dropped 6 pounds.

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biggest frsutration for me over last 2 months has been lack of support from my ex. even though i've been racing; i don't get 'selfish' weekends like i used to where i can pretty much be ridiculous about working out & eating.

she hasn't taken the kids since early may and i find my resistance to eating wears down due to stress and having to cook for the kids all day. easier for me to avoid food than have to smell it in my face 3 or 4x a day when trying to make stuff the kids will eat.

no excuses..but there's a whole lot of pent-up frustration going on here at the moment..i need a freaking day to myself and hvaen't had one in almost 2 months now.

disney was incredibly stressful in coordinating that trip for the parents, brother & kids..and i was looking forward to a day or 2 alone but that still hasnt happened.

so anyway, not too upset..still pulling in top-10 finishes in bike races but i wont improve until i can knock off another 20lbs or so. its just impossible to be 195 and be competitive with races that involve alot of climbing. at 175 i'd pretty much not have any excuses

so hulk buddy, i can commiserate with you..we'll get those pounds off..the important thing is to look at your progress and where you've BEEN.

second most important thing is look at it this way; you haven't gained..you may have stalled out but you're sitting in a +/- 5lb range of your lowest weight.

keep up the fight!

Hulk-- I have read the posts over the last two days and is there any chance you are not eating enough calories? maybe your body is in starvation mode if you are below 2000/day and holding on to all of the calories. Maybe add some more no carb calories (an extra piece of meat with your meals) and see if that helps.

266.6/222.6/190.......44 lbs down.

The bad thing is that according to all of the measurements, I have lost 44 lbs and am still obese.

Even at my goal weight of 190, I would fall in the "prone to health risks" category on the BMI scale. I would have to get down to 177 to hit the "desirable" range. That's lower than my military weight, which was the best shape of my life.

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But I don't think I break 2000, but may be close to hitting 2k.

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IMO you are eating more than you think


you should probably count just to be sure.



just my opinion but you are either miscalculating your carb intake or you just consume more calories than you should be but just dont know it

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and probably not hitting 2000

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Bet you are.

Prove us wrong and start measuring everything out and accurately adding up the calories.

I have to admit the hummus bothers me. It is made with garbanzo beans. Also, your cave man theory does not hold water simply because cave men had to hunt and gather their food, run from predators, and drag their women around by the hair (lol) -- not sit in the a/c playing video games.

We're not picking on you. We don't want you to give up. I agree with CAD that you should have stayed in induction for a long time. You have plenty of time to learn to tweek carbs in pre-maintenance and maintenance.