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re: PuttaDaForkDown
Posted on 6/26/11 at 2:25 pm to TigerMyth36
Posted on 6/26/11 at 2:25 pm to TigerMyth36
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You need to stop eating things you can't log and stick to things that you can determine the calories.
I'm not eating anything unusual or in huge quantities. Pot roast, chicken thighs/wings/breasts prepared different ways, typically baked or grilled. The things I don't know how to calculate for are like, the mushrooms, onions, and red bellpepper I put in the pot roast, or when I make a stir fry. I can't do like you did and stick to eat a hamburger patty every day for the sake of ease of documentation.. I'd go batty. I have to have some variety. I also eat hummus and found that low carb flatbread, 5g or 6g of carbs per flatbread. I like to take tuna, mayo, and some lettuce and make a wrap. Or I'll shred leftover chicken and make a wrap for lunch. I made a low carb flatbread pizza the other day, just one of those flatbreads, some "no sugar added" (much lower carbs in no sugar added cans) spaghetti sauce, some mushrooms, and ground turkey, and some pepperjack cheese.. Nothing that I'm eating should be causing a stall or too many calories. I'm not eating ridiculous portions, not more than I have been when I was losing.
To me the only thing missing here is exercise.. and I'm frickin' lazy and need to get my fatass up and exercise
I'm eating healthy and decent portions.This post was edited on 6/26/11 at 2:26 pm
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Posted on 6/26/11 at 2:27 pm to Hulkklogan
There is really no reason why you shouldn't be losing weight in induction, Hulk. Don't quit! Get back to making your meals simple. If you're adding condiments, you're getting a lot of carbs. And shouldn't be eating "pizzas" -- that "low carb" flatbread has 16 grams per wrap (wtf is a net carb???). Eating whipped cream is not getting the sugar out of your system. As a recovering sugar addict, you must stop eating it, or you will keep failing. Drinking beer is not helping either.
Not trying to be mean. Just telling it like I see it. Either you are going to get serious and buckle down and lose the weight, or you're gonna fart around, keep doing poorly, then get the "oh, what's the use" attitude. Then you will return to your old habits. Only you can decide.
We're all pulling for you on here. Hang in there!! Don't be mad at me. 
Not trying to be mean. Just telling it like I see it. Either you are going to get serious and buckle down and lose the weight, or you're gonna fart around, keep doing poorly, then get the "oh, what's the use" attitude. Then you will return to your old habits. Only you can decide.
We're all pulling for you on here.
Hang in there!! Don't be mad at me. Posted on 6/26/11 at 2:39 pm to ChenierauTigre
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that "low carb" flatbread has 16 grams per wrap (wtf is a net carb???).
Net carb = Total carbs - fiber. You don't digest fiber (which is why it helps you go #2), therefore it doesn't count toward your total carb count for the day. After subtracting fiber, they're low carb.
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Eating whipped cream is not getting the sugar out of your system. As a recovering sugar addict, you must stop eating it, or you will keep failing. Drinking beer is not helping either.
First, I don't eat the whipped cream every day. It's good for a sweet tooth or to put in my coffee. And there's little/no sugar according to the label.. ofc I didn't really read what's in it, just the nutritional label.
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Drinking beer is not helping either.
This I know. I've gotten so frustrated with it, I figure "what the hell I'm not losing anyway" and have a few. every couple of weeks.
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Don't be mad at me.
I can take criticism
I don't know why I stalled when I started induction, but CAD called it - he told me "Don't be surprised if you stall in induction", he was right. I stalled for 2 or 3 weeks, then I said screw it and went back to what was working.. and it's not working either.
This post was edited on 6/26/11 at 2:41 pm
Posted on 6/26/11 at 2:45 pm to Hulkklogan
Not meant as criticism at all. I want to see you succeed. You have been through a lot of crappy stuff in your young life. Doing what it takes to drop the weight will do amazing things for your psyche (as well as feeling better physically). You are young and have your whole life ahead of you. It would be so much better for it to be a happy one, full of a sense of accomplishment.
It is easy to say "to hell with it". That's what got us here. You know what you have to do, and you have the power within you to get it done. Find it, Grasshopper. 
It is easy to say "to hell with it". That's what got us here.
You know what you have to do, and you have the power within you to get it done. Find it, Grasshopper. Posted on 6/26/11 at 2:50 pm to ChenierauTigre
I tell you guys what, not losing for so long on top of everything else, I've been in a real funk lately. I try to not let everything get to me, but when I'm alone with my dog and I realize that it's either I feed the dog or I feed myself because I'm so broke right now.. it starts to hit home. Naturally I fed the dog. But my entire life has been as crazy as you guys have seen me go through. Well, not quite as bad, but the money problems, things breaking on me, etc.. that's a norm. I just never can come out on top or come out ahead. The weight loss was keeping me so happy and on top of the world.. not losing again feels like.. like im worthless again. It really sucks.
But my entire life has been as crazy as you guys have seen me go through. Well, not quite as bad, but the money problems, things breaking on me, etc.. that's a norm. I just never can come out on top or come out ahead. The weight loss was keeping me so happy and on top of the world.. not losing again feels like.. like im worthless again. It really sucks.This post was edited on 6/26/11 at 2:51 pm
Posted on 6/26/11 at 3:03 pm to Hulkklogan
You're not worthless. You're going through a rough patch which makes it SO much harder. Once you get through all of this, you are going to realize how strong you really are. Food is not going to change any of that.
Can you shoot hoops with a friend? Or make a committment to walk the dog every day? The more you are out of the house, the less you are around food you can eat. If I stay at home alone a lot, I am constantly fighting not to eat for comfort. It's really not about being hungry so much as loneliness or boredom.
Can you shoot hoops with a friend? Or make a committment to walk the dog every day? The more you are out of the house, the less you are around food you can eat. If I stay at home alone a lot, I am constantly fighting not to eat for comfort. It's really not about being hungry so much as loneliness or boredom.
Posted on 6/26/11 at 3:20 pm to ChenierauTigre
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Can you shoot hoops with a friend?
No friends live around me, the one that did and plays hoops lives in nola now :(
quote:I should. Well, really.. not the dog. He's too old. Has seizures, don't want him to overheat. But I should get my lazy arse outside and exercise for sure. When I'm at my house, I play video games all day so I really don't eat unless I'm hungry for the most part.
Or make a committment to walk the dog every day?
Posted on 6/26/11 at 3:53 pm to Hulkklogan
Eating is the key Hulk. I know you THINK you are not eating a lot but at your weight it takes over 3k calories just to maintain.
Start eating simple dinners of chicken or pre formed burgers. Things that can easily be measured.
Just remember most of your success came from induction when you were watching every carb.
I've been in and out of induction many times over the last year. A few times it didn't seem to do much but MOST of the time it did.
You need to get back to tracking every morsel that comes near your mouth and put it in myfitnesspal.
Quit blaming the lack of exercise when the mouth is what is getting you in trouble.
Prayers sent for weight loss and financial help.
Start eating simple dinners of chicken or pre formed burgers. Things that can easily be measured.
Just remember most of your success came from induction when you were watching every carb.
I've been in and out of induction many times over the last year. A few times it didn't seem to do much but MOST of the time it did.
You need to get back to tracking every morsel that comes near your mouth and put it in myfitnesspal.
Quit blaming the lack of exercise when the mouth is what is getting you in trouble.
Prayers sent for weight loss and financial help.
Posted on 6/26/11 at 4:33 pm to TigerMyth36
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Eating is the key Hulk. I know you THINK you are not eating a lot but at your weight it takes over 3k calories just to maintain.
I just don't believe I'm eating 3k calories. There's just simply no way. NO way. NONE. I know what you're saying and it makes sense. But it's just not possible that I'm eating anything close to 3000. I'd still be surprised if I hit 2000. I don't eat all day long. I don't eat high calorie snacks. My meals aren't very big, nothing bigger than I'd eat on induction.
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Just remember most of your success came from induction when you were watching every carb.
I was in induction for 1 month, the rest I've been out of induction. So.. no, most of my success came from outside of induction, and then when I went back to induction I stalled.
This post was edited on 6/26/11 at 4:37 pm
Posted on 6/26/11 at 4:59 pm to Hulkklogan
Try not to get frustrated. Just keep working hard and venting here.
We are all pulling and praying for you.
We are all pulling and praying for you.
Posted on 6/26/11 at 6:10 pm to TigerMyth36
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Try not to get frustrated. Just keep working hard and venting here.
We are all pulling and praying for you.
I know, I don't mean to be argumentative. Obviously I'm not doing something right.. I just don't know what. I did realize today though that I haven't been drinking enough water. I went back to my old ways of 1-2 glasses a day... maybe. So I'm going to cut out diet cokes/tea, etc and just go back to nothing but 64 oz of water a day..
I'm not a big fan of water.Posted on 6/26/11 at 6:47 pm to Hulkklogan
Me neither. But I faithfully make my water quota every day -- it makes a huge difference. I do not allow diet soda. I do, however, drink the flavored green tea. Green tea boosts metabolism, and you get a little hint of fruit taste. I make myself drink it without sweetener. You get used to it after a while.
Let's face it, dieting isn't a blast. And for me, if I do not doctor my food up to make it taste really great, then I realize that I am eating to live, not living to eat. The plainer the better. Makes you not crave "just one more bite". I also loathe salt, so I use VERY LITTLE, if any. This makes me get it in gear and do the job of losing the weight. I can have better tasting stuff when I reach maintenance. Not before. (I have to be a hardass with myself).
Let's face it, dieting isn't a blast. And for me, if I do not doctor my food up to make it taste really great, then I realize that I am eating to live, not living to eat. The plainer the better. Makes you not crave "just one more bite". I also loathe salt, so I use VERY LITTLE, if any. This makes me get it in gear and do the job of losing the weight. I can have better tasting stuff when I reach maintenance. Not before. (I have to be a hardass with myself).
Posted on 6/26/11 at 7:35 pm to ChenierauTigre
Because of my blood pressure I am always battling sodium. I finally realized the best way to cook is to cook everything plain then add sriracha when I eat.
That helps me stay under 1500 mgs a day.
I used to drink only water but last November I started drinking coffee and I drink at least 64 ounces in coffee alone then another 64 in water.
I also drink green tea sometimes.
I do think caffeine can stimulate hunger a bit but no way I am giving up my coffee.
Diet soft drinks are still mostly water Hulk so that isn't your problem.
The mouth is the problem. Go back to simple meals. Nobody said this would be easy. It sucks, but it is worth it.
And I feel your pain, you have had to deal with a lot of crap in a short period.
That helps me stay under 1500 mgs a day.
I used to drink only water but last November I started drinking coffee and I drink at least 64 ounces in coffee alone then another 64 in water.
I also drink green tea sometimes.
I do think caffeine can stimulate hunger a bit but no way I am giving up my coffee.
Diet soft drinks are still mostly water Hulk so that isn't your problem.
The mouth is the problem. Go back to simple meals. Nobody said this would be easy. It sucks, but it is worth it.
And I feel your pain, you have had to deal with a lot of crap in a short period.
Posted on 6/26/11 at 7:38 pm to ChenierauTigre
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Get back to making your meals simple
ding ding ding
circle takes the square.
hulk..simplify. it may be boring but do like myth said and switch to eating like a couple of hamburger patties with some mayo or something for a few days.
atkins calls this the 'fat fast' and its eating small portions of VERY HIGH FAT food such as macadamia nuts and mayonaise.
this is almost guaranteed to break any type of stall. the needle will start to move again. be patient and look back at how far you've come in only a few short months.
also, measure your loss as % of total weight. look up 'losing 10% of total body weight and i stalled" on the web. you'll see that not only do lots of people stall after losing roughly 10% of their weight, but several nutritionists say this is a GOOD thing as your body is taking some time to readjust to its new weight before more starts to come off.
the bottom line..your weight will start to drop again. just be patient and remember how much better off you are now than you were 3-4 months ago.
like myth said, if you're eating less than you're burning..eventually your body will let go and the weight will start to drop.
you have been through alot in the last year but you're heading in the right direction. we got your back here!
This post was edited on 6/26/11 at 7:40 pm
Posted on 6/26/11 at 7:58 pm to CAD703X
What??? No mention of the fact I once again kicked your arse. 
175.2!!!
175.2!!!
Posted on 6/26/11 at 10:18 pm to CAD703X
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also, measure your loss as % of total weight. look up 'losing 10% of total body weight and i stalled" on the web. you'll see that not only do lots of people stall after losing roughly 10% of their weight, but several nutritionists say this is a GOOD thing as your body is taking some time to readjust to its new weight before more starts to come off.
If measuring from 363, I've lost 11.8% of total body weight.
I'm going to give this a try, going back to the basics.. kind of hitting a reset button. If this doesn't work, then what? If I stay stalled, what would be the next best move?
Posted on 6/26/11 at 10:43 pm to Hulkklogan
Well I will admit that I have stalled strictly due to cheating most of the last two months. I am happy that I have maintained but starting tomorrow it's back to hard core low carb for a while. Gonna do it til I reach 200, and then evaluate.
275/221/175
01-03-11
275/221/175
01-03-11
This post was edited on 6/26/11 at 10:55 pm
Posted on 6/26/11 at 10:47 pm to TigerMyth36
oh crud..i must have missed your post. 
yeah i'm not even close..195 this morning
yeah i'm not even close..195 this morning
Posted on 6/26/11 at 10:53 pm to Hulkklogan
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If this doesn't work, then what
stick with what you did for the past 3-4 months..it will eventually start working again..dont get frustrated and start changing a bunch of stuff..if it worked before it will work again.
Posted on 6/26/11 at 11:22 pm to CAD703X
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yeah i'm not even close..195 this morning
Hmmm, I race you one last time. First to be 10 down so 185 for you and 165 for me.
I did almost no bike riding last week and dropped 6 pounds.
I'm just saying Lester.
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