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Posted on 2/13/17 at 8:09 am to alajones
Grind week. :jump1: :jump2:
Posted on 2/13/17 at 8:19 am to lsu777
Body Gem RMR results from my physical at Ochsner.
There's no way these numbers are accurate. Based on the fact that I average 2000-2500 calories and have been maintaining weight.
There's no way these numbers are accurate. Based on the fact that I average 2000-2500 calories and have been maintaining weight.
Posted on 2/13/17 at 8:23 am to busbeepbeep
It's so hard to be 100% sure based on some testing.. Definitely would trust your own experience over that.
Posted on 2/13/17 at 8:49 am to busbeepbeep
Damn. It would be nice to be able to lose weight while consuming 3000 cals/day with a sedentary lifestyle, but yeah 
that seems off, given the fact you're not 400 lbs. It's interesting to see, nevertheless!
that seems off, given the fact you're not 400 lbs. It's interesting to see, nevertheless!
Posted on 2/13/17 at 8:51 am to Hulkklogan
Cut completed. Went from 188 to a final weigh in of 177.8 on a strict keto diet for 7 weeks.
Unfortunately, I lost muscle and my level of training doesn't work well with keto. I'm definitely looking great but I was totally gassed at my jiu jitsu tournament and I felt weak.
Switching back to lean gains and the 16/8.
Training days: High protein, Medium fat, Medium Carb
Off days: High protein, High fat, Low carb
Carbs will be leafy greens, small amounts of rice, sweet potatoes, berries, nuts, with the starchy carbs eaten pre training.
Unfortunately, I lost muscle and my level of training doesn't work well with keto. I'm definitely looking great but I was totally gassed at my jiu jitsu tournament and I felt weak.
Switching back to lean gains and the 16/8.
Training days: High protein, Medium fat, Medium Carb
Off days: High protein, High fat, Low carb
Carbs will be leafy greens, small amounts of rice, sweet potatoes, berries, nuts, with the starchy carbs eaten pre training.
This post was edited on 2/13/17 at 8:52 am
Posted on 2/13/17 at 9:04 am to busbeepbeep
It is probably closer than you think because everyone underestimates it vastly. Even Peter Attia believes there are differences in REE depending on what we eat.
Good Science, Bad Interpretation
He mentions a JAMA David Ludwig paper in the comments as well, about REE
He mentions in this video about REE around the 52 minute mark. It is brief, but acknowledges the different REE. The general metabolic study talk begins around the 37 minute mark and is quite interesting.
It is the main reason I don't sweat TEE too much, it is pretty hard to estimate correctly. Even that little device will be off. Only the metabolic chamber can get you close.
Good Science, Bad Interpretation
He mentions a JAMA David Ludwig paper in the comments as well, about REE
He mentions in this video about REE around the 52 minute mark. It is brief, but acknowledges the different REE. The general metabolic study talk begins around the 37 minute mark and is quite interesting.
It is the main reason I don't sweat TEE too much, it is pretty hard to estimate correctly. Even that little device will be off. Only the metabolic chamber can get you close.
Posted on 2/13/17 at 9:09 am to lsu777
I meant to include:
Lose the weight, get that weight loss started and stick with it for a month. Once that is a habit, start lifting weights and figuring where to go from there.
Once you start eating good food, you crave the crap less and less.
Lose the weight, get that weight loss started and stick with it for a month. Once that is a habit, start lifting weights and figuring where to go from there.
Once you start eating good food, you crave the crap less and less.
Posted on 2/13/17 at 9:43 am to Junky
yea once the addiction is broken, its much easier to maintain the lifestyle.
Posted on 2/13/17 at 9:46 am to busbeepbeep
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busbeepbeep
TDEE is going to be trial and error unless you go spend a weekend laying in bed and hooked up to monitors the whole time at the pennington center. Base it off of a 2 or 3 week period. Once its found, adjust up or down by 250 cals a pop and see what that does and make further adjustments.
If it was an exact science it would be easy but it takes tracking and critical thinking skills to adjust and get the goals you want.
Posted on 2/13/17 at 9:49 am to Azazello
quote:
Cut completed. Went from 188 to a final weigh in of 177.8 on a strict keto diet for 7 weeks.
Unfortunately, I lost muscle and my level of training doesn't work well with keto. I'm definitely looking great but I was totally gassed at my jiu jitsu tournament and I felt weak.
Switching back to lean gains and the 16/8.
Training days: High protein, Medium fat, Medium Carb
Off days: High protein, High fat, Low carb
Carbs will be leafy greens, small amounts of rice, sweet potatoes, berries, nuts, with the starchy carbs eaten pre training
Congrats man. I will be starting lean gains march 1st. I will tell you I have had my best success with LG when I have had drastic swings in calories when comparing training vs rest. Also best success was backloading the carbs all intra workout and post workout. Had a recomp effect despite gaining weight.
Posted on 2/13/17 at 9:54 am to lsu777
RFL this week? Lezzzgoo
Posted on 2/13/17 at 10:13 am to Lazy But Talented
no i promised my coworkers I would do a fat fast with them. 
Would much rather do RFL. Fat fast is way fricking harder.
Menu for the next ten days is
Lunch-Coffee with 2 tbsp ghee/1tbsp mct oil
330- same but only one tbsp ghee
Dinner- 8 free range egg yolks or 4 yolks and 4 strips of uncured bacon.
yea...the next 10 days are going to suck arse.
Would much rather do RFL. Fat fast is way fricking harder.
Menu for the next ten days is
Lunch-Coffee with 2 tbsp ghee/1tbsp mct oil
330- same but only one tbsp ghee
Dinner- 8 free range egg yolks or 4 yolks and 4 strips of uncured bacon.
yea...the next 10 days are going to suck arse.
Posted on 2/13/17 at 10:22 am to lsu777
I know mental toughness is a large part of dieting...but there is absolutely no fricking way I could do that for 10 days straight.
Well maybe I could in a setting where I'm doing it with people I'm around all day at work.
Well maybe I could in a setting where I'm doing it with people I'm around all day at work.
This post was edited on 2/13/17 at 10:34 am
Posted on 2/13/17 at 10:50 am to lsu777
That's it? Holy shite!
Posted on 2/13/17 at 11:07 am to tke_swamprat
quote:
That's it? Holy shite!
1000 cals, 90% from fat. yea sucks but works so so good.
Posted on 2/13/17 at 3:09 pm to lsu777
So i'm relatively new to this thread but i'm looking for a practical diet.
I'm 34, 6'1" and weight 194 as of my last scale weigh in a couple days ago. This is the heaviest i've ever been. I'm a naturally thin guy, so i healthily hover around 180. My goal is to get to 175-180. My workout is P90X3. I love the workouts.
However, my issue is dieting. I don't have an aversion to eating healthy. I actually like doing it. My problem, is that i work 40 minutes from home, and i have limited healthy options where i work. I'm looking for a common sense, practical diet, that doesn't require to spend my time prepping meals all damn day. I've been managing fine with just "not eating bad" but lately i've fallen off that wagon with crawfish, and brewery visits, etc...
I used to use calorie trackers regularly but i can't find any good apps for my iphone anymore. I looked through myfitnesspal but is sort of worthless if the food isn't already in the database and i dont' feel like adding new foods to that app every day.
So i guess my questions are
1) Could someone recommend a common sense, practical diet?
2) What is a good calorie tracker to use?
My goals are really for weight loss and trimming down. Not looking to put on mass, just good healthy lean muscle.
ETA: Oh, and spending time making a big breakfast isn't really an option either.
I'm 34, 6'1" and weight 194 as of my last scale weigh in a couple days ago. This is the heaviest i've ever been. I'm a naturally thin guy, so i healthily hover around 180. My goal is to get to 175-180. My workout is P90X3. I love the workouts.
However, my issue is dieting. I don't have an aversion to eating healthy. I actually like doing it. My problem, is that i work 40 minutes from home, and i have limited healthy options where i work. I'm looking for a common sense, practical diet, that doesn't require to spend my time prepping meals all damn day. I've been managing fine with just "not eating bad" but lately i've fallen off that wagon with crawfish, and brewery visits, etc...
I used to use calorie trackers regularly but i can't find any good apps for my iphone anymore. I looked through myfitnesspal but is sort of worthless if the food isn't already in the database and i dont' feel like adding new foods to that app every day.
So i guess my questions are
1) Could someone recommend a common sense, practical diet?
2) What is a good calorie tracker to use?
My goals are really for weight loss and trimming down. Not looking to put on mass, just good healthy lean muscle.
ETA: Oh, and spending time making a big breakfast isn't really an option either.
This post was edited on 2/13/17 at 3:13 pm
Posted on 2/13/17 at 3:35 pm to BugAC
pretty simple. Use myftinesspal its the best and has the biggest data base.
For diet since you don't want to prep, easiest thing to do will be follow IIFYM. Plug the given macros into myfitnesspal and try and get within 10% of each macro daily.
keep it simple. no reason to overcomplicate things since you aren't willing to meal prep. Also no meal prep limits options on what you can do. IIFYM will allow you to eat anything and everything so long as it it meets your macros.
For diet since you don't want to prep, easiest thing to do will be follow IIFYM. Plug the given macros into myfitnesspal and try and get within 10% of each macro daily.
keep it simple. no reason to overcomplicate things since you aren't willing to meal prep. Also no meal prep limits options on what you can do. IIFYM will allow you to eat anything and everything so long as it it meets your macros.
Posted on 2/13/17 at 5:34 pm to lsu777
I've decided to try and do some long run without carbs. Should be fun. Almond butter and BCAAs/electrolytes for fuel.
Posted on 2/13/17 at 6:06 pm to BugAC
Hey Bug!
What 777 said is what I was thinking. MFP is particularly good if you're eating out often at chains.
Don't eat after 8pm and skip breakfast entirely. Drink a couple of cups of coffee and pound water all morning.. I usually have had about 64oz by noon. You'll be hungry by 10:30 probably but just deal with it for an hour then go eat. If you don't want to skip breakfast you can meal prep that incredibly easy as well.
I recommend meal prepping your lunches ahead of time. Breakfast is easy, too. My wife (ha, still getting used to that) and I meal prep our lunches and neither of us eats breakfast most of the time. Just prepping lunches doesn't take much time but I find it helps me tremendously during the work week (and saves money)
Eta
And if you can find time to work out, implementing a full body lifting routine 3x a week will help dramatically.
What 777 said is what I was thinking. MFP is particularly good if you're eating out often at chains.
Don't eat after 8pm and skip breakfast entirely. Drink a couple of cups of coffee and pound water all morning.. I usually have had about 64oz by noon. You'll be hungry by 10:30 probably but just deal with it for an hour then go eat. If you don't want to skip breakfast you can meal prep that incredibly easy as well.
I recommend meal prepping your lunches ahead of time. Breakfast is easy, too. My wife (ha, still getting used to that) and I meal prep our lunches and neither of us eats breakfast most of the time. Just prepping lunches doesn't take much time but I find it helps me tremendously during the work week (and saves money)
Eta
And if you can find time to work out, implementing a full body lifting routine 3x a week will help dramatically.
This post was edited on 2/13/17 at 6:11 pm
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