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Pond Crawfish to be scarce?

Posted on 1/23/09 at 12:49 pm
Posted by TJG210
New Orleans
Member since Aug 2006
29415 posts
Posted on 1/23/09 at 12:49 pm
Does anyone know if there is any truth to this? I heard on 870 this morning that there will be a shortage of pond crawfish this year due to the hurricanes last year...
This post was edited on 1/23/09 at 1:21 pm
Posted by Catman88
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Dec 2004
49125 posts
Posted on 1/23/09 at 1:24 pm to
Doubtful.. Most of the pond crawfish comes from the Acadia parish area.. They were not hit hard by a hurricane other than needlessly losing power for Gustav.
Posted by Jimbeaux
Member since Sep 2003
21733 posts
Posted on 1/23/09 at 1:40 pm to
Crawfishmen are talking up the scarcity angle to justify higher prices.

I don't blame them. They don't make enough money off of their product, expecially when gas prices are high.
Posted by lsu1percent
BR
Member since Jul 2008
765 posts
Posted on 1/23/09 at 1:44 pm to
Gas prices are not high right now.
Posted by Mudminnow
Houston, TX
Member since Aug 2004
34216 posts
Posted on 1/23/09 at 1:48 pm to
its bullshite. Maybe there is still some impact from Rita but thats about it.

They cut off delivering to the market 1 day a week last year to save money because of fuel prices or so they say.
Posted by TJG210
New Orleans
Member since Aug 2006
29415 posts
Posted on 1/23/09 at 1:50 pm to
What excuse did they use last year? These people shouldn't be in the business if every year they need to find something to grumble about just to justify charging people a higher cost......
If they are scarce, they are scarce.......but fabricating crap is ridiculous.
Posted by tigeryat
God's Country
Member since Oct 2005
2984 posts
Posted on 1/23/09 at 1:55 pm to
Most of the Vermilion and Cameron parish ponds got a lot of saltwater in them after the flood last year.

Dem crawfish don't like saltwater.

They will take a few years to recover.
Posted by Catman88
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Dec 2004
49125 posts
Posted on 1/23/09 at 1:56 pm to
These SAME people are FARMERS.. Do you know any farmers? They complain every year about something.. Not enough rain.. too much rain.. etc.. They have to in order to justify their higher prices.
Posted by TJG210
New Orleans
Member since Aug 2006
29415 posts
Posted on 1/23/09 at 2:25 pm to
You can add crop is too large, and crop isn't large enough to their gripes.
Posted by StanleyB
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2008
525 posts
Posted on 1/23/09 at 4:22 pm to
Are there really any crawfish ponds in Cameron Parish?
Posted by lsujj2008
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2007
1203 posts
Posted on 1/23/09 at 4:45 pm to
quote:

Are there really any crawfish ponds in Cameron Parish?

Yes, I know a number of rice farmers who raise crawfish there. They all got flooded this year and three years ago for Rita.
Posted by Mudminnow
Houston, TX
Member since Aug 2004
34216 posts
Posted on 1/23/09 at 4:55 pm to
from what I heard and I do believe from looking at the salinity readings of water level gages, is that a freshwater lens was in front of the surge, especially north of the white lake area. The salinity wasnt nearly as high in these freshwater isolated ponds as it was for Rita.
Posted by swamp witch
Houston, Tx
Member since Jan 2007
75 posts
Posted on 1/23/09 at 5:01 pm to
WOW, all this disrespect for the farmers.

My crawfish farms in Evangeline parish are not producing as of yet. By this time, I'm usually ramping up for a break-even with season startup expenses with the increased demand from Mardi Gras., I haven't managed to put out the first trap out because there are no or very few crawfish. Dry weather conditions this fall, two hurricanes not withstanding, and colder than normal temperatures are keeping the mudbugs slow and small.

So I've got my accumulated costs since the rice harvest to put the ponds into production and the ongoing costs trying to keep conditions optimum in my fields to help whatever crawfish ARE there, grow and reproduce. Costs? Let's see, there's diesel (not gasoline which is cheaper than diesel) to run the water well to keep the water and oxygen levels up (low rainfall this fall). Once I do start production, there's the cost of gasoline to run the fishing boats, the cost of bait, and the cost of direct labor to actually fish the ponds, wash and grade the crawfish, re-sack and then transport the crawfish to the wholesaler (who is the real money maker in the deal).

Before you hi-jack a thread to whine about farmers, do a little reseach into why the farmers "b*tch".

Have a GREAT day.
Posted by Jimbeaux
Member since Sep 2003
21733 posts
Posted on 1/23/09 at 5:01 pm to
quote:

from what I heard and I do believe from looking at the salinity readings of water level gages, is that a freshwater lens was in front of the surge, especially north of the white lake area. The salinity wasnt nearly as high in these freshwater isolated ponds as it was for Rita.


Oh yeah, the freshwater lens. I forgot about the freshwater lens.



I won't ask what a freshwater lens is (I can guess), and I won't ask what your profession is (something involving marine biology, perhaps), I'll just concede that your knowledge on this subject is >>>>>> than mine. Thanks for the info.
Posted by Jimbeaux
Member since Sep 2003
21733 posts
Posted on 1/23/09 at 5:07 pm to
swamp witch, I sympathize with you. I really do. I'm not sure why the wholesaler gets the big money and you struggle to break even (ever think about forming a co-op?), but you gotta admit that your post kinda affirms his suggestion that farmers have nasally speech patterns.
Posted by swamp witch
Houston, Tx
Member since Jan 2007
75 posts
Posted on 1/23/09 at 5:11 pm to
Touche'.

Felt the need to answer the question (limited supply of crawfish at this time and the reason why).

Also felt the need to do a little education on raising crawfish. Crawfish farming has come along way since the ditch with a line and a pole.

Hope you find the crawfish you seek. Just know that you will pay for them this year and it's not because the farmers are greedy.

Posted by Jimbeaux
Member since Sep 2003
21733 posts
Posted on 1/23/09 at 5:17 pm to
quote:


Hope you find the crawfish you seek. Just know that you will pay for them this year and it's not because the farmers are greedy.


I NEVER blame farmers for high prices!

I will admit that I hold off on crawfish boils if the price is too high (except for Easter Sunday, when we boil em at almost any cost).
Posted by CrawfishKing
Member since Sep 2007
363 posts
Posted on 1/23/09 at 5:37 pm to
How many pounds of dead crawfish do the farmers have to make up for when there are tender and don't make it overnight. You shouldn't come on here and say the buyers make all the money without any risk.
Posted by El Jefe
_______(\___ southeast of disorder
Member since Jan 2004
1244 posts
Posted on 1/23/09 at 10:06 pm to
quote:

How many pounds of dead crawfish do the farmers have to make up for


not many. you can fly those bastards across country and have less than 5% mortality. Don't give me that "they die in my cooler" crap.

quote:

buyers make all the money without any risk.


you are selling at 2.35 right now and catching plenty. fuel cost is low, conditions are good. what is the risk?
This post was edited on 1/23/09 at 10:33 pm
Posted by Mudminnow
Houston, TX
Member since Aug 2004
34216 posts
Posted on 1/23/09 at 10:13 pm to
quote:

wholesaler (who is the real money maker in the deal).


I dont understand why crawfisherman always sell to the wholesaler then? Many shrimpers starting setting up roadside stands because of that very reason. I dont see many crawfish guys doing that.

Lets say a wholesaler pays $25 a sack, you can easily sell a sack on the side of the road in a heartbeat for $35. Just hypothetical as I dont have a clue about prices
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