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McCormick Buys Hot-Sauce Maker Cholula

Posted on 11/25/20 at 10:49 am
Posted by Stadium Rat
Metairie
Member since Jul 2004
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Posted on 11/25/20 at 10:49 am
Posted by JDGTiger
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2020
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Posted on 11/25/20 at 10:57 am to
Amazing--they paid $800 million for a company with only $90 million in gross sales.
Posted by KamaCausey_LSU
Member since Apr 2013
14450 posts
Posted on 11/25/20 at 10:57 am to
I didn't realize Cholula was still independent up until now.

Another few years and there won't be any independent products left and they'll all be owned by conglomerates.

Louisiana Hot Sauce is owned by Southeastern Mills Inc.
Zapps is owned by UTZ
Popeyes is owned by Restaurant Brands International
Zatarains is owned by McCormick

The list goes on and on.
Posted by Paul Allen
Montauk, NY
Member since Nov 2007
75096 posts
Posted on 11/25/20 at 10:58 am to
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they paid $800 million for a company with only $90 million in gross sales.



Posted by LSUZombie
A Cemetery Near You
Member since Apr 2008
28868 posts
Posted on 11/25/20 at 10:59 am to
I like Cholula though I can't figure out why it's called a hot sauce due to the lack of heat
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
58487 posts
Posted on 11/25/20 at 11:20 am to
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Amazing--they paid $800 million for a company with only $90 million in gross sales.


I've read over $90 million in net sales. Where did you get this figure? Do you think they overpaid?
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
58487 posts
Posted on 11/25/20 at 11:22 am to
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I didn't realize Cholula was still independent up until now.


It's owned by a P/E firm. Is that really independent?
Posted by KamaCausey_LSU
Member since Apr 2013
14450 posts
Posted on 11/25/20 at 11:34 am to
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It's owned by a P/E firm. Is that really independent?


Ah, didn't see that. Nevermind then.
Should have googled it. Sale finalized from Jose Cuervo to L Catteron in 2019.

I wonder if that was the plan all along for McCormick to acquire Cholula without buying it from Jose Cuervo.
This post was edited on 11/25/20 at 12:09 pm
Posted by cuyahoga tiger
NE Ohio via Tangipahoa
Member since Nov 2011
5825 posts
Posted on 11/25/20 at 11:54 am to
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Zatarains is owned by McCormick


McK screwed up Zats and will do the same to Cholula
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
101158 posts
Posted on 11/25/20 at 12:00 pm to
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Another few years and there won't be any independent products left and they'll all be owned by conglomerates.

Louisiana Hot Sauce is owned by Southeastern Mills Inc.
Zapps is owned by UTZ
Popeyes is owned by Restaurant Brands International
Zatarains is owned by McCormick

The list goes on and on.



Them McIlhenneys still holding strong it seems.

They've got to be like the Holy Grail of remaining independent food product brands at this point.
This post was edited on 11/25/20 at 12:15 pm
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
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Posted on 11/25/20 at 12:15 pm to
I guess I'm in the minority, but I don't care for Cholula
Posted by Sherman Klump
Wellman College
Member since Jul 2011
4456 posts
Posted on 11/25/20 at 12:28 pm to
You’re in the minority. It hammers.
Posted by lighter345
Member since Jan 2009
11863 posts
Posted on 11/25/20 at 1:03 pm to
Crystal still out there holding strong.
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
134815 posts
Posted on 11/25/20 at 1:05 pm to
That green Cajun Chef is the bomb
Posted by LSUZombie
A Cemetery Near You
Member since Apr 2008
28868 posts
Posted on 11/25/20 at 1:33 pm to
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I guess I'm in the minority, but I don't care for Cholula


It’s delicious when you want some chili flavor without any heat.

I assume my previous post got downvoted but a bunch of Yankees who find this sauce spicy.
Posted by Duane Dibbley
Red Dwarf
Member since Nov 2011
1562 posts
Posted on 11/25/20 at 2:09 pm to
If you like green hot sauce, Cholula jalapeño and poblano is awesome.

Posted by CFC1905
Louisiana, unfortunately
Member since Nov 2020
174 posts
Posted on 11/25/20 at 2:16 pm to
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Amazing--they paid $800 million for a company with only $90 million in gross sales.


Sales and Valuations are not the same thing.

Biznus is hard.
Posted by MeridianDog
Home on the range
Member since Nov 2010
14136 posts
Posted on 11/25/20 at 2:38 pm to
They are just buying out the competition.

Some have heard me say that I reversed engineered Zatarain's crab boil for McCormick 20 years ago. I did three formulas for them. A New England style, a New Orleans (Zatarain's) style. and a Hot style (Zatarain's with heat). We (the company I worked for) made the blends using McCormick spices and filled them in the little plastic bags, on our equipment.

McCormick said my Zatarain's blend was the closest they had ever tried to Zatarain's. The other two were very good. As far as I know, they still buy the blend packaged by the company I worked for (VP Product Development).

I knew old man Zatarain back in the day. He could squeeze a quarter out of two dimes. The main difference between my blend and his was we used McCormick spices and they were 100X fresher than Zatarain's, who bought them from a NJ company we also sold filled spices to. The other spice guy's product was OK, just really old.

It surprises me that, other then buying out their competition, McCormick bought Cholula. They, many years back, had several very good liquid pepper blends, developed in house, just not sure they ever put any on the market, at least when we were doing business with them.
Once, they asked if we would bottle liquids for them, but that was not a part of our business plan and we stepped away from the discussion. Back then, I had a very good formula for liquid pepper sauce, but we did not have any hot bottling equipment. I'm not sure who bottles the Zatarain's liquid crab boil. I am sure that bottling line will take your breath away (Hot).

I'm not sure what happened to my formulas. By contract, they did not belong to me.

This post was edited on 11/25/20 at 2:42 pm
Posted by lionward2014
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2015
11694 posts
Posted on 11/25/20 at 3:12 pm to
Green Cholula is tGOAT
Posted by Stadium Rat
Metairie
Member since Jul 2004
9519 posts
Posted on 11/25/20 at 3:49 pm to
So MD, that is an awesome story.

Is this the product you came up with?

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