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theantiquetiger
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Is there a need to brine a turkey if you are going to inject it?

Title says it all. I got two 12 lb turkeys that I plan to inject and smoke. If I’m going to inject them, do they need a brine soak as well?


KosmoCramer
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re: Is there a need to brine a turkey if you are going to inject it?
Dry brining actually changes the surface proteins allowing them to retain more moisture. Injecting adds moisture which I personally think isn't really retained all that well.

Personally, I think brining is more effective than injecting. But you can do both, just don't salt the injection.


Also, I highly recommend dry brining over traditional wet brines.
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re: Is there a need to brine a turkey if you are going to inject it?
Aren’t all the frozen turkeys already brined from the factory. Unless you get a fresh one they all come in a brine solution. I don’t think you can get fresh turkey unless you go to a farm or something.


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re: Is there a need to brine a turkey if you are going to inject it?
The one I bought says based with 9.5% solution. I had already bought a brine kit as well. Think I may just do an overnight brine to avoid being too salty.


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re: Is there a need to brine a turkey if you are going to inject it?
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Aren’t all the frozen turkeys already brined from the factory. Unless you get a fresh one they all come in a brine solution. I don’t think you can get fresh turkey unless you go to a farm or something.


I don't know how it is down there, but fresh turkeys are pretty available here in Ohio, especially during Thanksgiving.


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re: Is there a need to brine a turkey if you are going to inject it?
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don't know how it is down there, but fresh turkeys are pretty available here in Ohio, especially during Thanksgiving.
Available at my local HEB in Converse Tx
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re: Is there a need to brine a turkey if you are going to inject it?
The frozen turkeys are basically brined already. I don't brine any further. I inject and the moisture is retained. The meat is flavorful and juicy. Make your own injection.


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re: Is there a need to brine a turkey if you are going to inject it?
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Dry brining actually changes the surface proteins
Are you putting the dry brine under the skin?


SixthAndBarone
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re: Is there a need to brine a turkey if you are going to inject it?
Almost any turkey you buy is going to be injected with water already. Despite what the meat companies tell you, this is for 1 reason and 1 reason only: It adds weight to the turkey and lets the processor sell it for more money. They inject salt water and call it brine or solution. Read below for the reason. The USDA regulates how much solution the turkey can hold, which is why you see the statements on the labels.


A consumer will brine or inject for 2 reasons: to add moisture to the meat which will make it juicer and to add flavor to the inside of the turkey.

If you take a piece of meat and let it sit in a brine for a few days, it slowly works into the meat. It can take days for the brine to reach the inside of the turkey all the way through. If it doesn't sit long enough, the inside of the meat will not get any brine. Brining works from the outside in. This is when injection comes in handy. Injection shoots the brine straight into the inside of the meat. The best thing to do is inject and then let it sit in brine for a day or two. You speed up the brining process by injecting and then still get the brine by soaking.


How does meat hold water? Water molecules attach to proteins in the meat via salt (sodium). If you know organic chemistry, you know how molecules attach to each other. Salt attaches to the protein and water attaches to the salt. So now the meat is holding extra water.

Meat can only hold a certain amount of water. Once that amount is reached, no more water is attaching to the meat. It's not possible. So a pre-brined or injected turkey from the store only has the capacity to hold a little bit more water (brine).


In summary, the turkey you buy is already holding water. If you want to add more, inject it and then let it brine because injection speeds up the brining process.


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re: Is there a need to brine a turkey if you are going to inject it?
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Are you putting the dry brine under the skin?



Yes.


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re: Is there a need to brine a turkey if you are going to inject it?
I bought one that was in an 8% solution and still put in in a brine. I bought the Meatchurch Bird Bath brined it for about 15hrs. I followed his turkey recipe and basted it with butter about every 45 min. It took about roughly about 3.5hrs at 275 and came out super moist and was not overly salty.


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re: Is there a need to brine a turkey if you are going to inject it?
I would say do one or the other. Brining helps introduce salt into the meat (along with other flavors if you season up your brine) which will both flavor and help retain moisture. Injecting is doing the same thing. I don't know if you would be harming anything by doing both as much as just wasting some time, effort and ingredients.


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Jake88
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re: Is there a need to brine a turkey if you are going to inject it?
That's just on the breast, under the skin, right?


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That's just on the breast, under the skin, right?


Mainly. Inside the cavity too. I may try to get the leg and thigh too.


theantiquetiger
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re: Is there a need to brine a turkey if you are going to inject it?
Decided to just inject and rub, they were pre-brined.
Just put into the smoker.

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re: Is there a need to brine a turkey if you are going to inject it?
Lol! I love my serial downvoter. I literally post facts to help people out and explain something and this dude(s) downvotes it’s every time. Cheers, bro! I’m sure you’re a blast to be around in real life. I hope you find peace one day.


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re: Is there a need to brine a turkey if you are going to inject it?
Chicken skin is my Everest. Can't imagine trying to get turkey skin non rubbery.


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KosmoCramer
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re: Is there a need to brine a turkey if you are going to inject it?
Looks like you used too much sugar? That skin and rub looks inedible to me.
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re: Is there a need to brine a turkey if you are going to inject it?
Save the neck for me, baw


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