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Input needed for custom local butcher idea
Posted on 5/29/18 at 7:40 pm
Posted on 5/29/18 at 7:40 pm
I am reaching out to get your honest opinion. I know the farm to table movement is somewhat growing. I am curious if you would purchase fresh organic or grain fed cattle, hogs, chicken and turkey from a butcher if there was one in the area. A place where you can order whatever the amount or cuts of meat you would want, even order a half, quarter or whatever % of the cow. This would not be a grocery, Costco or Sam’s that just un boxes meat to cut and grind. Could order prime or choice custom cuts and anything else you would want. More of a personalized butcher to order.
Would you travel to a location (maybe 10 mi out) if it is not in your daily route or have it delivered?
I want to know your feelings if this would appeal to you.
Thank you in advance.
Would you travel to a location (maybe 10 mi out) if it is not in your daily route or have it delivered?
I want to know your feelings if this would appeal to you.
Thank you in advance.
This post was edited on 5/29/18 at 9:20 pm
Posted on 5/29/18 at 7:48 pm to NOLATiger71
Personally, the only meat that I would consider using a custom butcher for is beef and some fish. Chicken pretty much takes the flavor of whatever you put on it, and I only eat ground turkey every so often. I might would consider good pork ribs, but again that wouldn't be an all that regular purchase for me.
Posted on 5/29/18 at 7:59 pm to NOLATiger71
Where are you considering? I buy quite a bit from Iverstine in BR and he is only a few miles from me. I buy more chickens than anything because a yard chicken is 100% different than a processed chicken from a grocer.
I find most butcher shops don’t carry enough product and try to stay too high end. I like to braise and like big inexpensive cuts that they rarely have or I have to tell them in advance.
I find most butcher shops don’t carry enough product and try to stay too high end. I like to braise and like big inexpensive cuts that they rarely have or I have to tell them in advance.
Posted on 5/29/18 at 9:27 pm to NOLATiger71
Several have come and gone.....Rare Cuts, Cleaver and Co, to name two in NOLA.
Posted on 5/29/18 at 9:33 pm to Martini
Depends on the area. I know your just getting ppls feedback but be cautious. The ones that say that would be great and they would buy if u had something like that divide it by 2. Most ppl are all talk and when it’s time to pay a little extra and support local they shop where the best price is at even if quality isn’t all that. Good luck and continue to do your homework.
Posted on 5/29/18 at 9:38 pm to NOLATiger71
Had a glorious shop like that where I live. It was amazing.
I live in a very small town. It was gone in 18 months.
Find the right market. Have a high profit product such as ready to eat stuff.
I live in a very small town. It was gone in 18 months.
Find the right market. Have a high profit product such as ready to eat stuff.
Posted on 5/29/18 at 9:43 pm to NOLATiger71
I would say there is a market for it, but it depends on where you are and what is already available in the area.
In BR, I buy from Iverstine’s Butcher occasionally (very fresh but somewhat expensive) and Cutrer’s Meat Market at the Red Stick Farmer’s Market whenever I can. Cutrer’s has good prices and will bring you whatever you want if you pre-order, but their meat is flash-frozen and some people don’t like that.
In BR, I buy from Iverstine’s Butcher occasionally (very fresh but somewhat expensive) and Cutrer’s Meat Market at the Red Stick Farmer’s Market whenever I can. Cutrer’s has good prices and will bring you whatever you want if you pre-order, but their meat is flash-frozen and some people don’t like that.
Posted on 5/29/18 at 10:05 pm to NOLATiger71
Not to stomp on your dreams or anything but they have failed here in New Orleans. Would be fun to have one but....
Fresh Market already has everything you’ve stated. And they do a good job.
Fresh Market is a huge corporation. And they will beat you on price because they buy in such bulk.
I just don’t think the profit margin is conducive to the demand for rare cuts.
You might be better off doing exactly what Cochon the Butcher does. Sell great sandwiches to get people in the door and then have them peruse your cuts.
That being said.....someone else in the city needs to drive their arse to Lake Charles or Lafayette and learn how to make proper boudin.
Fresh Market already has everything you’ve stated. And they do a good job.
Fresh Market is a huge corporation. And they will beat you on price because they buy in such bulk.
I just don’t think the profit margin is conducive to the demand for rare cuts.
You might be better off doing exactly what Cochon the Butcher does. Sell great sandwiches to get people in the door and then have them peruse your cuts.
That being said.....someone else in the city needs to drive their arse to Lake Charles or Lafayette and learn how to make proper boudin.
Posted on 5/29/18 at 10:12 pm to The Levee
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Not to stomp on your dreams or anything but they have failed here in New Orleans. Would be fun to have one but....
Shank does this and has been going strong for a while.
I wish I could use him more often, but being across town kind of makes it difficult these days.
I think Shank benefits from not getting too fancy and working his nuts off behind the counter every day.
This post was edited on 5/29/18 at 10:14 pm
Posted on 5/29/18 at 10:24 pm to NOLATiger71
Location and Niche Specialty Products would be the key.
End of the day, 90+ percent of the consumer is going to buy 90+ percent of their meat from the grocers, so now you’re trying to get 10% of the dollar from 10% of the people.
You’re also competing with Whole Foods and the butcher counter at higher end grocery stores.
To draw people in, you’ll have to source superior products, provide superior service. And still need something as a draw. Look at Bourgeius in Thibodaux... they cut nice steaks and can get you cuts you don’t typically find at Rouses, but if they didn’t make really good head cheese and some of the best jerky on the planet, they probably wouldn’t be around.
End of the day, 90+ percent of the consumer is going to buy 90+ percent of their meat from the grocers, so now you’re trying to get 10% of the dollar from 10% of the people.
You’re also competing with Whole Foods and the butcher counter at higher end grocery stores.
To draw people in, you’ll have to source superior products, provide superior service. And still need something as a draw. Look at Bourgeius in Thibodaux... they cut nice steaks and can get you cuts you don’t typically find at Rouses, but if they didn’t make really good head cheese and some of the best jerky on the planet, they probably wouldn’t be around.
Posted on 5/29/18 at 10:33 pm to dpd901
Juniors Meat Market in French Settlement is another example of a small meat market that is making it.
Selling jerky, boudin, head cheese, charcuterie is the definition of what a meat market should be doing. Along with making proper cuts.
The key thing appears to be the owner has to work the store. Keep cost low doing multiple jobs and treat it as a job and high end boutique.
Rare cuts wasn't a butcher shop in most ways. They just sold jacked up cuts of steak.
Selling jerky, boudin, head cheese, charcuterie is the definition of what a meat market should be doing. Along with making proper cuts.
The key thing appears to be the owner has to work the store. Keep cost low doing multiple jobs and treat it as a job and high end boutique.
Rare cuts wasn't a butcher shop in most ways. They just sold jacked up cuts of steak.
This post was edited on 5/30/18 at 4:48 am
Posted on 5/30/18 at 5:38 am to hungryone
Think a new one opened or is opening. Piece of Meat I think it’s called?
Posted on 5/30/18 at 6:08 am to HeadChange
Also, if someone could make fresh cracklin
Nobody does this in New Orleans.
Chris Speciatly Meats in Lakeview used to...but I think that dude is stretched thin and can’t even make boudin anymore.
Gotta find a way to make good, affordable boudin.
For example: The Butcher boudin is 7.99 per link
Market basket in Lake Charles is like $3 a link.
Nobody does this in New Orleans.
Chris Speciatly Meats in Lakeview used to...but I think that dude is stretched thin and can’t even make boudin anymore.
Gotta find a way to make good, affordable boudin.
For example: The Butcher boudin is 7.99 per link
Market basket in Lake Charles is like $3 a link.
This post was edited on 5/30/18 at 6:09 am
Posted on 5/30/18 at 6:16 am to NOLATiger71
When I buy meat along these lines, I usually buy straight from the farmer. We have a weekly farmers market April-October that regularly has 3 or 4 farmers selling direct.
Posted on 5/30/18 at 7:05 am to dirtsandwich
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Would you travel to a location
As dirstandwich said, most of the local farmers are set up at Farmer's Markets and sell their meat there.
We travel to a location, and greater than 10 miles, but it's to pick up a special order.
Everyday purchases like steaks, roundsteak, ground beef, sausage, pork, chicken, etc with few exception, are all bought at the Farmer's Market from local farmers.
This post was edited on 5/30/18 at 7:06 am
Posted on 5/30/18 at 9:40 am to NOLATiger71
Thanks for the input so far. I cannot say much right now on the plans or what I am working on. What I can say is that everything is in the works for the things that have been brought up. I am also looking at a delivery service because the location is not necessarily in your backyard.
Yes, there will be many other things being sold and created here for purchase. To keep cost down need to be out of major metropolitan area.
Continue with the ideas or input it is much appreciated.
Yes, there will be many other things being sold and created here for purchase. To keep cost down need to be out of major metropolitan area.
Continue with the ideas or input it is much appreciated.
Posted on 5/30/18 at 10:09 am to NOLATiger71
What’s your back round?
Posted on 5/30/18 at 10:42 am to NOLATiger71
Location, location, location. Having to get out of metropolitan areas will hamper you greatly. The alternative to that is shipping or delivery like you said. But you have to be able to ship or deliver for cheap or free. The organic movement is getting bigger, but no where near large enough to sustain a business that is both more expensive and more difficult to deal with. Finding a niche is going to be key for you. Doing the same things that others do (ether that is Whole Foods, local butchers, etc) and being even remotely more expensive or hard to access is sure to crush your business. You have to provide a service, product, or have the quality that no one else does in order to survive if you won’t be able to rely on foot traffic for the majority of your sales.
Different industries, certainly, but there is a reason why bass pro and cabelas buy prime high dollar real estate right next to the interstate, even having a HUGE online presence. While I can understand you’re likely not looking for those types of returns and revenue, it’s something to consider.
Different industries, certainly, but there is a reason why bass pro and cabelas buy prime high dollar real estate right next to the interstate, even having a HUGE online presence. While I can understand you’re likely not looking for those types of returns and revenue, it’s something to consider.
Posted on 5/30/18 at 10:52 am to NOLATiger71
my grandfather owned a butcher shop/small grocery on East Blvd under the overpass for 50 years, up till the early 90's. back then, that was how you bought your meat
he would cut anything you wanted, and made his own sausages/etc. this was mostly definitely NOT and "upscale" place, but the thing you did get was fresh product, cut every day. the only things he kept in the case were whole roasts and such, plus soup meat/liver/necks/etc. that was huge then, and still is
so yes, i would travel out of my way for that. it doesnt have to be super premium meat, just cut fresh or ground fresh is good enough for me
he would cut anything you wanted, and made his own sausages/etc. this was mostly definitely NOT and "upscale" place, but the thing you did get was fresh product, cut every day. the only things he kept in the case were whole roasts and such, plus soup meat/liver/necks/etc. that was huge then, and still is
so yes, i would travel out of my way for that. it doesnt have to be super premium meat, just cut fresh or ground fresh is good enough for me
Posted on 5/30/18 at 10:58 am to NOLATiger71
Have you considered supplying only to restaurants instead, and not selling product out of your front door to the public?
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