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How long would you let gumbo sit on the stove?
Posted on 1/28/22 at 7:12 pm
Posted on 1/28/22 at 7:12 pm
Say I finish making a pot at 10am.
Could I just let it sit there until 3 or 4 and then turn the stove back on simmer?
Could I just let it sit there until 3 or 4 and then turn the stove back on simmer?
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Posted on 1/28/22 at 7:17 pm to Nguyener
Of course.
Posted on 1/28/22 at 7:18 pm to Nguyener
Short answer: the science proves the answer is no. Unless you’re keeping it hot regularly. Say, bring it to a slight boil once every 2 hours.
Bacteria grows at certain temperatures. It takes a certain amount of time at each temperature for the bacteria to grow as well.
If your temperature is not high enough, bacteria can grow if it’s left at that lower temperature for the right amount of time.
Now, for the fools who say momma left it on the stove and you never got sick…this is true. Like covid, most of the time, healthy people don’t get too sick. But that doesn’t mean you didn’t have the bacteria.
Also, some bacteria can grow to a large enough amount that bringing it back to a boil will NOT kill what has grown. And some bacteria can form spores that will NOT be killed with a re-boil.
Bacteria grows at certain temperatures. It takes a certain amount of time at each temperature for the bacteria to grow as well.
If your temperature is not high enough, bacteria can grow if it’s left at that lower temperature for the right amount of time.
Now, for the fools who say momma left it on the stove and you never got sick…this is true. Like covid, most of the time, healthy people don’t get too sick. But that doesn’t mean you didn’t have the bacteria.
Also, some bacteria can grow to a large enough amount that bringing it back to a boil will NOT kill what has grown. And some bacteria can form spores that will NOT be killed with a re-boil.
This post was edited on 1/29/22 at 9:07 am
Posted on 1/28/22 at 7:19 pm to Nguyener
Food cannot be under 140 degrees for more than two hours without food problems, either keep it at 145 or chill it to under 40 and reheat. Also I agree with above poster, you might not get sick but those are the guidelines for ens ursing the people you are feeding don't, and that should be important to any cook.
This post was edited on 1/28/22 at 7:22 pm
Posted on 1/28/22 at 8:00 pm to Mikaelomo
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Food cannot be under 140 degrees for more than two hours without food problems
Great. I’ll stop it from boiling around noon and then I’m good till 2/3 with the lid on a cast iron pot it’ll stay above 140 and then I’ll simmer it after that. Thanks.
Posted on 1/28/22 at 9:20 pm to Nguyener
quote:more than likely, the food will be safe for human consumption.
Could I just let it sit there until 3 or 4 and then turn the stove back on simmer?
Regulatory Authorities have the following guidelines for commercial food service operations.
Depending on what source you are referencing, (USDA or ServSafe) as long as the temperature of your product does not drop below 140°F or 135°F respectively, it can be held without temperature control for 4 hours.
Coincidentally, even if the temperature falls below 140°F or 135°F (depending on which source you reference), you can safely hold the food without temperature control for up to 4 hours. Of course, you will need to take corrective actions and reheat the product to above 165°F or throw it out.
You really want to avoid the temperature range between 70°F-125°F. This is the temperature range that bacteria growth is accelerated. It is a temperature zone within the temperature danger zone that can be very dangerous.
Posted on 1/28/22 at 9:27 pm to Nguyener
I wouldn't do that , but I like gumbo reheated . I'm serv safe certified and your breaking a few rules . Then again I also allow the 3 second rule with food on the floor with my grandson ?
Posted on 1/28/22 at 9:31 pm to Nguyener
Chicken and sausage, it could sit there all day and probably all night and just be fine, seafood I’d just put it in the fridge before I went to bed.
Posted on 1/28/22 at 9:41 pm to Mikaelomo
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either keep it at 145 or chill it to under 40
Soux Vide Gumbo
Posted on 1/28/22 at 10:23 pm to Nguyener
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Chicken and sausage, it could sit there all day and probably all night and just be fine, seafood I’d just put it in the fridge before I went to bed.
THIS^^
Posted on 1/29/22 at 6:08 am to gizmothepug
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it could sit there all day and probably all night and just be fine
This is factually not true.
Posted on 1/29/22 at 7:27 am to Nguyener
just throw in a dash of ground penicillin and you'll be fine
Posted on 1/29/22 at 10:10 am to Nguyener
Easily can sit for that time period unless your house is at 100 degrees.
Posted on 1/29/22 at 10:36 am to Nguyener
Just keep it simmering all day baw
Posted on 1/29/22 at 10:44 am to Nguyener
I' e never stuck a thermometer in my pot, but I've cooked a pot, kept it covered, and come back 3-4 hours later and it's still piping hot.
I'd probably start cooking later if you can.
I can't put my gumbo pot in my fridge without taking up a ton of room. So it sits out, we eat, when done, it gets split up into bags and into the fridge, and next morning, some bags move from fridge to freezer.
I'd probably start cooking later if you can.
I can't put my gumbo pot in my fridge without taking up a ton of room. So it sits out, we eat, when done, it gets split up into bags and into the fridge, and next morning, some bags move from fridge to freezer.
Posted on 1/29/22 at 11:16 am to Nguyener
All day if you have to. People are such sissies about how long they think they can leave food out these days. Back in college it was nothing to Order some pizza or something then leave it out all night without refrigerating it and then eat it for lunch the next day
Never got us sick
Never got us sick
Posted on 1/29/22 at 12:06 pm to Pelican fan99
Yep, when you were in college, you weren’t in a high risk category (pregnant, elderly, kidney disease, infant, autoimmune issues).
You can leave a gumbo out for 3 days if you want. I’ve never gotten in a car accident, so by your logic, I can drive with no seat belt and I never will get hurt.
Will bacteria grow to get you sick? Maybe, maybe not.
If bacteria grows, will it affect you as a healthy person? Maybe, maybe not.
Are there scientifically proved facts about the danger zones for bacterial growth? Absolutely 100% yes.
Nobody is saying if you leave your gumbo out that you will die. What we are saying is that if you leave it out, yes, it has the reality of becoming a food safety issue. It’s a fact.
You can leave a gumbo out for 3 days if you want. I’ve never gotten in a car accident, so by your logic, I can drive with no seat belt and I never will get hurt.
Will bacteria grow to get you sick? Maybe, maybe not.
If bacteria grows, will it affect you as a healthy person? Maybe, maybe not.
Are there scientifically proved facts about the danger zones for bacterial growth? Absolutely 100% yes.
Nobody is saying if you leave your gumbo out that you will die. What we are saying is that if you leave it out, yes, it has the reality of becoming a food safety issue. It’s a fact.
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