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Posted on 2/4/15 at 1:53 pm to
Posted by Gris Gris
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Posted on 2/4/15 at 1:53 pm to
I have never had my burgers fall apart and I do not use a binder. I can't stand burgers with egg and breadcrumb fillers. I want good old meat. I remember in college these guys in my complex making burgers with eggs and breadcrumbs. They did it to stretch the meat to make more burgers since they were on a budget. My gosh, the texture of those things was awful and the ground meat flavor was diluted. That's been MY experience every time.

Watch Julia make a burger on this link with Jacques Pepin.
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Start at about 14:37 and Jacques checks on some other meat during that time, but it picks up on the burgers again at about 17:30. Notice how Julia cuts the ground meat with a knife to spread it out if you'd like to season on the inside. Then, she cuts the meat more to mix the seasoning rather than overworking the meat. She loosely packs it back together. If I'm seasoning, I do the same thing since I saw this show on PBS. I loved the shallots. I like the taste of a good not overseasoned burger. If you prefer a lot of seasoning, try it her way, but quality meats taste good to me. I rely on toppings if I want more flavor. A good burger, for me, doesn't need much in the way of new ideas.
Posted by LouisianaLady
Member since Mar 2009
83171 posts
Posted on 2/4/15 at 2:00 pm to
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Potato buns are a definite recommendation for any burger, incidentally.



Yes!

I like brioche too, but potato is my #1.
Posted by AmosMosesAndTwins
Lake Charles
Member since Apr 2010
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Posted on 2/4/15 at 2:11 pm to
80/20
Dimple
Tony's and fresh cracked black pepper on both sides
Cast iron
Posted by Boudreaux35
BR
Member since Sep 2007
22281 posts
Posted on 2/4/15 at 2:34 pm to
Thanks everyone, for the info. I'll definitely be trying them out.
Posted by dnm3305
Member since Feb 2009
16413 posts
Posted on 2/4/15 at 2:40 pm to
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No numbnuts, neither do shite to the flavor. What they do is dry it the frick out. That's just science.


They absolutely do not, numbnuts. I said a handful of breadcrumbs, not a gallon. I've found that just plain meat dries out faster and produces a rubbery texture instead of a moist texture that the breadcrumbs add if burger is cooked properly. The key is cooking properly, if overcooked then obviously burger will be "dried the frick out" out no matter what.
Posted by dnm3305
Member since Feb 2009
16413 posts
Posted on 2/4/15 at 2:43 pm to
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I can't stand burgers with egg and breadcrumb fillers. I want good old meat. I remember in college these guys in my complex making burgers with eggs and breadcrumbs. They did it to stretch the meat to make more burgers since they were on a budget. My gosh, the texture of those things was awful and the ground meat flavor was diluted. That's been MY experience every time.


Well, if they were honestly using it to "stretch the meat out to make more burgers" they obviously added a METRIC shite TON (It's an official weight) of breadcrumbs because adding less than a 1/2 cup will not make a pack of groudn meat stretch any further at all. If you got bad texture from it, then they did it wrong. If you got diluted flavor from it, then they did it wrong.
Posted by Salmon
I helped draft the email
Member since Feb 2008
86757 posts
Posted on 2/4/15 at 2:43 pm to
if cooked properly your burger shouldn't need breadcrumbs or an egg
Posted by dnm3305
Member since Feb 2009
16413 posts
Posted on 2/4/15 at 2:44 pm to
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if cooked properly your burger shouldn't need breadcrumbs or an egg

I give up. I do cook them properly and have for a long time. I cook them properly without breadcrumbs and an egg as well. They are inferior.
Posted by MightyYat
StB Garden District
Member since Jan 2009
25029 posts
Posted on 2/4/15 at 2:55 pm to
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I give up. I do cook them properly and have for a long time. I cook them properly without breadcrumbs and an egg as well. They are inferior.


You might be the only person in the world that thinks this.
Posted by LSU fan 246
Member since Oct 2005
90567 posts
Posted on 2/4/15 at 2:55 pm to
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I've found that just plain meat dries out faster and produces a rubbery texture instead of a moist texture that the breadcrumbs add if burger is cooked properly.


Can you explain how a burger becomes more moist when you add bread crumbs to it?
Posted by MightyYat
StB Garden District
Member since Jan 2009
25029 posts
Posted on 2/4/15 at 3:03 pm to
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Can you explain how a burger becomes more moist when you add bread crumbs to it?



If a burger with meat only is drying out he's not preparing and/or cooking it properly. Saying breadcrumbs add a moist texture to a burger is the dumbest thing I've read today and I've been monitoring the recruiting board most of the day.
Posted by Btrtigerfan
Disgruntled employee
Member since Dec 2007
24208 posts
Posted on 2/4/15 at 3:05 pm to
Next time you trim up a brisket, use a hunk of the flat, and some of the trimmed fat to grind for burgers. Awesome flavor.

If you gotta use egg, fry it. Put it on on top of the burger before the cheese.
Posted by Tigertown in ATL
Georgia foothills
Member since Sep 2009
30431 posts
Posted on 2/4/15 at 3:05 pm to
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the ground meat flavor was diluted. That's been MY experience every time.


According to the experts in this thread on both sides of the debate it doesn't affect flavor.

In typical F&D fashion, your experience is therefore invalid.
Posted by More beer please
Member since Feb 2010
46613 posts
Posted on 2/4/15 at 3:05 pm to
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I've found that just plain meat dries out faster and produces a rubbery texture instead of a moist texture that the breadcrumbs add if burger is cooked properly.


Posted by LSUballs
Member since Feb 2008
40423 posts
Posted on 2/4/15 at 3:13 pm to
Lots of people like meat loaf burgers. My bro in law being one of em. I told him about the merits of a simpler made burger. He didn't give a shite. He likes his burgers with egg and onions in them, so that's how he makes them. If you prefer them that way let er rip. His arnt bad, but will lay the heartburn on you.
Posted by Martini
Near Athens
Member since Mar 2005
49697 posts
Posted on 2/4/15 at 3:15 pm to
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Don't squeeze them!!


That's what you tell Motorboat?
Posted by LouisianaLady
Member since Mar 2009
83171 posts
Posted on 2/4/15 at 3:17 pm to
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In typical F&D fashion, your experience is therefore invalid.



Why do you even open Tigerdroppings at all?
Posted by Tigertown in ATL
Georgia foothills
Member since Sep 2009
30431 posts
Posted on 2/4/15 at 3:22 pm to
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Why do you even open Tigerdroppings at all?


Learn a few things and have CIVIL conversations.

If someone (not you at all!) chooses to be an a-hole, there's nothing I can do about it.

Just to clarify, I was not poking at GG at all. Her experience is probably some of the most valuable to me. She said the crumbs had an affect on flavor. For and anti bread crumb guys said otherwise, so I was being sarcastic. I believe her.
Posted by Caplewood
Atlanta
Member since Jun 2010
39477 posts
Posted on 2/4/15 at 3:22 pm to
I like burgers with egg and breadcrumbs. I also like burgers without eggs and breadcrumbs
Posted by LSUballs
Member since Feb 2008
40423 posts
Posted on 2/4/15 at 3:30 pm to
That's just stupid. I watched a show on cooking burgers and that's NOT how you cook burgers. Might as well put dog shite between your brioche buns.
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