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re: Homebrewing: In-Process Thread

Posted on 3/28/16 at 8:06 pm to
Posted by s14suspense
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2007
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Posted on 3/28/16 at 8:06 pm to
Let us know. I've been wanting a heavily dry hoped quick sour.
Posted by Canuck Tiger
Member since Sep 2010
1763 posts
Posted on 3/28/16 at 8:20 pm to
This was the second beer I soured in a corny keg with wyeast 5335. The first one was 50/50 wheat and Pilsner no sparged and then boiled 60 min. It got to pH 3.2 but had a sweet wort smell even after fermenting to 1.005. It benefitted a lot from the sour cherries I added and is going to be a decent first sour attempt.

This beer was mostly second runnings from my saison grain bill (2row, Munich light, wheat, carapils) that I soured no boil; the mash hit 160 for 15 mins on the second runnings but I blended in some first running that was 150 to reach 1.045 og so there could have been some wild strains I guess. Anyway, after 48 hours it's 3.45 but has a MUCH better flavor and somehow the acidity is more assertive than the first sour despite higher pH and higher OG.

I don't know yet if it's due to the second generation, grain bill, or the no boil. I suspect I'm going to sour second runnings for every beer from now on so I'll try to control more variables and figure it out.
Posted by AubieALUMdvm
Member since Oct 2011
11713 posts
Posted on 3/28/16 at 11:26 pm to
Cream ale recipes - lets hear them. I have a need for delicious cream ale.
Posted by Canuck Tiger
Member since Sep 2010
1763 posts
Posted on 3/29/16 at 12:56 am to
I'd start with mad fermentationist: LINK
Posted by BMoney
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
16652 posts
Posted on 3/29/16 at 8:35 am to
Kegged 15 gallons of beer last night. 5 gallons of chocolate raspberry porter and 10 gallons of Citra/Galaxy APA. The raspberry was a little dominant in the porter, but I'll reserve judgement until it's all carbed up. The APA smelled and tasted delicious.
Posted by LSUBoo
Knoxville, TN
Member since Mar 2006
102497 posts
Posted on 3/29/16 at 8:39 am to
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Cream ale recipes - lets hear them. I have a need for delicious cream ale.


To do a really simple 5G batch, use 8-10 lb. of 2-row, 2 lb. of flaked maize, mash around 152, throw in an ounce of some noble hop at 60 and another at 5, ferment with US-05. You can use that as a cream ale base for just about any flavors you want, or just drink as is.
Posted by s14suspense
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2007
15146 posts
Posted on 3/29/16 at 8:53 am to
Couldn't bring myself to actually make a cream ale in our beer called coconut cream ale.
Don't think Frat did either.
Posted by LSUBoo
Knoxville, TN
Member since Mar 2006
102497 posts
Posted on 3/29/16 at 8:56 am to
I've used that base plenty, typically for a citrus cream ale, we also used it as a base for the Strawberry Cream Ale at Iron Brewer a few years ago.
Posted by Dollar_Bill
Member since Jan 2016
49 posts
Posted on 3/29/16 at 12:43 pm to
I recently brewed a peanut butter banana hefe. I tried to get my banana flavor from under pitching and fermenting warm with wyeast 3068 but there is no banana flavor. Has anyone used a banana puree in the secondary to get banana flavor?
Posted by LoneStarTiger
Lone Star State
Member since Aug 2004
16220 posts
Posted on 3/29/16 at 12:45 pm to
after reading here and the Zapps thread, I feel like such a boring brewer.
"Hey LST, what did you brew?"
"A pale ale"
"kettle soured? fruited?"
"nope, just a 35-IBU, moderately hopped pale ale"

This post was edited on 3/29/16 at 12:46 pm
Posted by s14suspense
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2007
15146 posts
Posted on 3/29/16 at 12:55 pm to
Nothing wrong with that at all!

That's why I did a 10 gallon batch of two of the Zapp's beers so I'd have some normalish stuff to drink on at the house.

Zapp's is a Go-all-out affair.

Posted by BMoney
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
16652 posts
Posted on 3/29/16 at 1:10 pm to
quote:

after reading here and the Zapps thread, I feel like such a boring brewer.
"Hey LST, what did you brew?"
"A pale ale"
"kettle soured? fruited?"
"nope, just a 35-IBU, moderately hopped pale ale"



Whatever, Mr. Crosscut Islands with Brett.
Posted by LoneStarTiger
Lone Star State
Member since Aug 2004
16220 posts
Posted on 3/29/16 at 1:24 pm to
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Whatever, Mr. Crosscut Islands with Brett.



that's a moderately hopped pale ale!








































with brett
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
55439 posts
Posted on 3/29/16 at 2:39 pm to
For you quick sour guys. And this is assuming you don't do the "cool down to 96 and let it ride" method, but more to the cool to pitching temp of lacto depending on strand (120-86) and hold for 24 hours. How do you hold that temp for so long? Do you just keep a burner on low all night? Just curious. And for those that keep the wort in a kettle, do you just blast the top with CO2 and tape the kettle lid to the top? I'm just curious of how you maintain that temp (especially on the high end of that range) while keeping it devoid of O2.

Chances are, i'll be doing the cool to 96, pitch giga fast souring lacto, and let it ride method, but would like to experiment with fast souring with different lacto varietals.

Posted by Canuck Tiger
Member since Sep 2010
1763 posts
Posted on 3/29/16 at 3:16 pm to
I have used Wyeast 5335 so far, which likes 80-95F. I put the wort in a keg after adjusting to pH 4.5 and chilling to 95 and then I pitch the lactobacillus and purge all the headspace with CO2 3-4x and leave it at 10psi. Then I put that keg in my 10gallon mash tun with a 300W aquarium heater and pull samples off daily with a picnic tap until I'm happy with the pH and taste. Then since the bacteria I am using ferments a small amount of the wort (maybe 10% to make CO2; I just use a ball lock on the keg to transfer the wort to a CO2-flushed carboy.



Easy peasy. I can then just swirl the last 8-10 oz of the wort that's left in the keg and is full of yeast and pour in a mason jar until next time.
This post was edited on 3/29/16 at 3:17 pm
Posted by BottomlandBrew
Member since Aug 2010
28412 posts
Posted on 3/29/16 at 3:19 pm to
I put my fermentor in my kettle, fill with water, and hook up my sous vide controller to heat and circulate the water.
Posted by s14suspense
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2007
15146 posts
Posted on 3/29/16 at 3:25 pm to
quote:

I put my fermentor in my kettle, fill with water, and hook up my sous vide controller to heat and circulate the water.



Honey, I think we should get a Sous Vide controller for the kitchen... for cooking and stuff...
Posted by LSUBoo
Knoxville, TN
Member since Mar 2006
102497 posts
Posted on 3/29/16 at 3:27 pm to
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Honey, I think we should get a Sous Vide controller for the kitchen... for cooking and stuff...


You know she wouldn't even think twice.
Posted by HoustonChick86
Catalina Wine Mixer
Member since Dec 2009
58855 posts
Posted on 3/29/16 at 3:40 pm to
quote:

Honey, I think we should get a Sous Vide controller for the kitchen... for cooking and stuff...

Multipurpose. A kitchen necessity.
Posted by LoneStarTiger
Lone Star State
Member since Aug 2004
16220 posts
Posted on 3/29/16 at 6:38 pm to
Does Wyeast 1318 have a reputation for finishing a little higher than expected?

My pale ale is a few points high but unchanged since Friday
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