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Homebrewing: In-Process Thread

Posted on 6/27/13 at 9:38 am
Posted by BugAC
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Posted on 6/27/13 at 9:38 am
ETA: I am editing my first post to include some threads started in the past that may be helpful to new brewer's.

Homebrewing: Official Recipe Thread

Homebrewing: Some Tips (First Brew Thread)

Homebrewing: Supplies/Starter Kits

Home Brewing: The Brewing shall Commence

Home Brewing: First brew complete, on to the tasting and next brew

Homebrewing: Updates

Homebrewing: Extract to All-Grain

Homebrewing: Fermentation Possibly Stuck

Homebrewing: All Grain Mash Tuns

Homebrewing: All-Grain Pictorial Double Feature

Homebrewing: Step by Step Extract Brew

All-Grain Brewing: Step by Step

Figure i'd get the thread going. I'm brewing a Saison Saturday. I'll be making a starter today when i get home from work, and will add pictures. My recipe is as follows.

Recipe size = 5.5 gallons
Malt
8 lbs 8 oz Pilsner Malt
1 lb Rye malt
8 oz. Munich malt
8 oz. White Wheat malt
2 oz. Special B Malt
8 oz. Turbinado Sugar
Hops
1.5 oz. Hallertauer (60 min)
.5 oz. Saaz (10 min)
Adjuncts
.4 oz. Fresh Orange Peel

White Labs WLP566 Belgian Saison II Yeast

ABV 6.5%
IBU 26.3
Color 6.2 SRM

Mash @ 148-149 for 75 minutes
This post was edited on 7/29/14 at 8:23 am
Posted by Fratastic423
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Posted on 6/27/13 at 9:44 am to
I will not be joining you in the brewing this weekend. Headed to Austin after work today for beer and BBQ
Posted by s14suspense
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2007
14689 posts
Posted on 6/27/13 at 10:03 am to
I'll Ctrl-C/Ctrl-V my last post in the FBD thread from last night.

quote:

was slightly intoxicated last night and wanted to know if my few month old milled base grain was still good so I mashed a cup or two in a little sauce pot on my stove.

Stuck my finger in there 45 minutes later and it tasted sweet so I figured it was still good.
Then I had a little un-hopped wort just sitting there and decided to use it. BIAB'd it into a cup and wrapped the cup up in another mesh bag to keep the bugs out and stuck it in my oak tree over night...
Grabbed it this morning and threw it in the flask on the stir plate to see what I may have got...?
frick if I know.


TL;DR: Made a small amount of wort to try to catch wild yeast while drunk last night.
Posted by BMoney
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Posted on 6/27/13 at 10:07 am to
I may brew on Sunday. Either an imperial stout or a Citra pale ale.
Posted by Fratastic423
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2007
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Posted on 6/27/13 at 10:07 am to
quote:

I'll Ctrl-C/Ctrl-V my last post in the FBD thread from last night.


Awesome dude. You will probably have much more than yeast in the cup though. I know listening to the brewer at Jester King, they did that then sent it off to a lab to get the yeast isolated.
Posted by s14suspense
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Member since Mar 2007
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Posted on 6/27/13 at 10:11 am to
quote:

Awesome dude. You will probably have much more than yeast in the cup though. I know listening to the brewer at Jester King, they did that then sent it off to a lab to get the yeast isolated.



We'll see. Not sure what I'll do with it if it seems like fermentation has taken place but I heard something about wild yeast and oak trees a while back so I figured I'd give it a try.


Err... I never actually boiled the wort. Could I have a mess of lacto when I get home?
This post was edited on 6/27/13 at 10:13 am
Posted by BottomlandBrew
Member since Aug 2010
27053 posts
Posted on 6/27/13 at 10:12 am to
quote:

Made a small amount of wort to try to catch wild yeast while drunk last night.


Best of luck. Hope you got some good stuff. I grabbed some dregs from JK Boxer's revenge the other night and mixed it with two brett and one sacch to build up a culture. I'm going to build it up and break it into some different containers if anyone wants some.

As for brewing, my keezer is empty at the moment and looks like it will be for a month or two, so I'm thinking I might try and get a Cal Common or Alt brewed tomorrow and ferment it in the keezer. My fermentation cabinet can't really get below 63 this time of year, so my keezer makes for a good alternative to get below 60.
Posted by Zappas Stache
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Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 6/27/13 at 10:13 am to
quote:

to catch wild yeast while drunk last night.


I used to find lots of funky yeast while drunk.
Posted by Fratastic423
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2007
5990 posts
Posted on 6/27/13 at 10:17 am to
quote:

Could I have a mess of lacto when I get home?


I imagine that you will have a lot of something once you get home. Don't know if boiling really would have done anything for you.

Cool experiment though. I'll try to talk to some people at JK this weekend to see if they have any suggestions on how we could actually harvest some local yeast.
Posted by rds dc
Member since Jun 2008
19803 posts
Posted on 6/27/13 at 10:47 am to
quote:


Stuck my finger in there 45 minutes later and it tasted sweet so I figured it was still good.
Then I had a little un-hopped wort just sitting there and decided to use it. BIAB'd it into a cup and wrapped the cup up in another mesh bag to keep the bugs out and stuck it in my oak tree over night...
Grabbed it this morning and threw it in the flask on the stir plate to see what I may have got...?
frick if I know.


Good luck with that. I plan to give it a try in the fall. I've never done it but have researched it a good bit. Supposedly the wild bug ratio is not good in the warmer months and you are more likely to get a successful batch when it is cooler. Also, you probably should put some hops in the wort to slow the growth of acid producing bacteria b/c they can lower the pH enough to make the wort inhospitable to any wild yeast that you capture.

Check out Wild Brews by Jeff Sparrow and the The Mad Fermentationist .
Posted by s14suspense
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2007
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Posted on 6/27/13 at 10:54 am to
quote:

Check out Wild Brews by Jeff Sparrow and the The Mad Fermentationist .



yep, I was just fricking around. have no real plans for it at the moment. I agree with the cooler months thing for sure.


That site is pretty amazing. It's a little too over my head sometimes which makes it hard to really follow.
This post was edited on 6/27/13 at 11:25 am
Posted by LSUGrad00
Member since Dec 2003
2428 posts
Posted on 6/27/13 at 11:06 am to
quote:

Check out Wild Brews by Jeff Sparrow


completely agree... this is one of my favorite brewing books.

If anyone is interested in brewing wild/sour beers I would also recommend checking out this podcast with Jean Van Roy of Cantillon.

LINK
Posted by rds dc
Member since Jun 2008
19803 posts
Posted on 6/27/13 at 4:17 pm to
quote:

If anyone is interested in brewing wild/sour beers I would also recommend checking out this podcast with Jean Van Roy of Cantillon.


That was really good. It is disappointing that brewers feel the need to add artificial sweeteners to their brews. Glad Jean is willing to stand up against that.
Posted by LSUGrad00
Member since Dec 2003
2428 posts
Posted on 6/27/13 at 4:39 pm to
quote:

Glad Jean is willing to stand up against that.


I think a lot of other breweries did anything they could to stay a float before craft beer took off and people started drinking sours again.

It says a lot about Jean and his family that Cantillon was able to stay true to style and still stay open all those years.

Here's another good talk from craft brewers conference 2011 w/ Jean, Vinnie from Russian River, and Yvan de Baets former Cantillon brewer and owner of de la senne.

LINK

After all this lacto/sour talk has convinced me to brew a berliner weisse next week.
Posted by LoneStarTiger
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Member since Aug 2004
15933 posts
Posted on 6/27/13 at 7:19 pm to
Bottling my blueberry cream ale Saturday and brewing an Oaked Irish Whisky stout on Sunday
Posted by rds dc
Member since Jun 2008
19803 posts
Posted on 6/28/13 at 8:51 am to
quote:

After all this lacto/sour talk has convinced me to brew a berliner weisse next week


Be sure to post some pics when you brew that. I'm very interested in learning more about brewing one of those.

ETA: Are you going to sour wort or pitch store bought lacto?
This post was edited on 6/28/13 at 10:47 am
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
52738 posts
Posted on 6/28/13 at 11:20 am to
Made my yeast starter yesterday, but it came out thicker than i liked. 2 cups water to 1 cup malt extract. It was very syrupy when i finished, so i boiled another cup of water, let cool, then mixed it with the extract i made earlier.

Weird thing happened. When i opened my white labs vial, it fizzed like a shook up coke can and kind of exploded out of the top. Luckily i kind of expected this, so i held the tube over the funnel going into my starter. However, i feel like i didn't get enough yeast from the vial. Hopefully my worries are for naught.

What size starters do yall make? The suggested starter size i use doesn't seem like much.
This post was edited on 6/28/13 at 11:22 am
Posted by BottomlandBrew
Member since Aug 2010
27053 posts
Posted on 6/28/13 at 11:22 am to
quote:

Made my yeast starter yesterday, but it came out thicker than i liked. 2 cups water to 1 cup malt extract. It was very syrupy when i finished, so i boiled another cup of water, let cool, then mixed it with the extract i made earlier.


Go metric next time. Much easier. 10:1 water:extract ratio. 1000 ml starter needs 100 grams of extract.

quote:

Hopefully my worries are for naught.


You worry too much, Bug.
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
52738 posts
Posted on 6/28/13 at 11:26 am to
quote:

1000 ml starter needs 100 grams of extract.


How many cups of water is that? I have a 1000 and 2000 mL erlinmeyer flask, but i never know how much water/extract ratio to put in.

Nevermind, i got the ratio. Damn. I've been undershooting my yeast starter. Granted i haven't had any fermentation problems, but i like being precise. My next starter will be 4 cups water to 3.5 ounces extract (1000mL to 100 g ratio).
This post was edited on 6/28/13 at 11:28 am
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
52738 posts
Posted on 6/28/13 at 11:30 am to
quote:

You worry too much, Bug


I do. The reason i worry so much with brewing, is that i spend a lot of time researching to make the recipe. THen i spend about $40 on the recipe, do the prep work, all of the sanitizing prior to brewing. Then setup for brew day and brew for 5.5 hours....to have it screwed up at the first step would infuriate me to no end. Too much hard work for nothing.
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