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re: Homebrewing: In-Process Thread

Posted on 6/25/14 at 9:38 am to
Posted by LoneStarTiger
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Posted on 6/25/14 at 9:38 am to
Upon further research, I have not found any examples using hoptree fruits, but it apparently grows well in many different soil types and drainage classes, and can be propagated by seed or cuttings.
I think the first batch may use hops for buttering and then use this fruit for late additions to see what it tastes like
Posted by Zappas Stache
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Posted on 6/25/14 at 11:34 am to
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Upon further research, I have not found any examples using hoptree fruits


I couldn't find anything either. I would just put in same amount as hops i.e. 1 oz seeds = 1 oz hops and use that as a starting point. Maybe brew 2.5 gallon test batch.
Posted by BottomlandBrew
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Posted on 6/25/14 at 11:39 am to
Maybe even try a tea extraction or a 1 L quick batch.
Posted by LoneStarTiger
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Posted on 6/25/14 at 12:53 pm to
It will certainly be a small test batch, and was thinking the same with using the same amount as the hops
I plan to wait a little longer until the fruit dries better, so maybe in mid to late July, or collect the seeds then and wait for it to cool off.
Posted by Zappas Stache
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Posted on 6/25/14 at 1:37 pm to
That is an interesting tree that looks to be native and drought tolerant in Texas. I am about to start designing a beer garden for a new brewery and wish I could find that tree available in a nursery. If any of y'all find commercial availability, let me know.
Posted by BottomlandBrew
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Posted on 6/25/14 at 1:54 pm to
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If any of y'all find commercial availability, let me know.


I don't see it in any of my sources.
Posted by Zappas Stache
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Posted on 6/25/14 at 1:56 pm to
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I don't see it in any of my sources.



Maybe Lonestar will go dig the one he found and send it to me.
Posted by BottomlandBrew
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Posted on 6/25/14 at 2:10 pm to
Ostrya virginiana fruit looks like hops.
Posted by Zappas Stache
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Posted on 6/25/14 at 2:47 pm to
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Ostrya virginiana fruit looks like hops.


In theory that should grow here. But I have never used it or seen it in DFW. It may require more water than I like too. But the fruit really does look like hops.
Posted by LoneStarTiger
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Posted on 6/26/14 at 11:52 am to
If your seeds don't sprout I will try to transplant one or two cutting to a pot for you. Will trade for beer



I'd like to do some of the same gardening, I saw a book on amazon called the homebrewers garden or some such
This post was edited on 6/26/14 at 12:07 pm
Posted by LSURoss
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Posted on 6/26/14 at 11:55 am to
Well I've been out of the brewing game for a bit and am starting to get an itch to brew. I want to brew 2 5 gallon batches, 1 to brew and drink and 1 to brew, bottle and age til winter. What should I brew?
Posted by LoneStarTiger
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Posted on 6/26/14 at 12:00 pm to
Farmhouse ale
Posted by s14suspense
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Posted on 6/26/14 at 12:09 pm to
Brew a RIS to sit on until winter.
Posted by OTIS2
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Posted on 6/26/14 at 12:23 pm to
Why isn't this stickied? Admins only drink Ultras and wine coolers?
Posted by LSURoss
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Posted on 6/26/14 at 12:49 pm to
Done. Good thing I got a bigger mash tun.
Posted by LoneStarTiger
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Posted on 6/26/14 at 1:21 pm to
That's a good question.
Posted by LSURoss
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Posted on 6/26/14 at 1:25 pm to
They had a sticky on the homebrew recipe thread for a bit, but this one has never had it.
Posted by rds dc
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Posted on 6/27/14 at 10:25 am to
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I think I am ready to sour. I guess it's too late for spontaneous, correct? To much crap in the hot air.


Yes, everything that I've seen indicates that you want to avoid collecting during the warm months.

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Either way, would you suggest just creating a starter from dregs of a JK bottle or 2 before diving into spontaneous ferm?


Creating a starter from JK dregs is a pretty safe way to go. However, I'm not sure if all JKs have Brett and you for sure want some in there. Brett is what does the heavy lifting in the later stages of fermentation and it can cleanup a lot of off flavors.
Posted by rds dc
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Posted on 6/27/14 at 10:31 am to
I'm going to try my luck with a turbid mash this weekend. Anyone ever done one? I'm doing BIAB and think that I have the proper adjustments worked out.
Posted by Zappas Stache
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Posted on 6/27/14 at 2:00 pm to
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However, I'm not sure if all JKs have Brett and you for sure want some in there. Brett is what does the heavy lifting in the later stages of fermentation and it can cleanup a lot of off flavors.


I'll harvest brett from the Boulevard Saison Brett I had last night. What I have read is to pitch bugs, brett and saccharo yeast all at the same time. Is this correct. Do you have a favorite saccharo yeast to pitch? I read low attenuating is better so the bugs have some sugars to chew on.
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