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re: Homebrewing: In-Process Thread

Posted on 1/26/14 at 3:02 pm to
Posted by LoneStarTiger
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Posted on 1/26/14 at 3:02 pm to
Says the guy that couldn't care less about OG


Posted by LoneStarTiger
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Posted on 1/26/14 at 3:54 pm to
While cleaning up I measured how much water I could put in my kettle before it started coming out of the drain valve. It was right at 2 gallons. I think that would be plenty of volume for the trub and hop break to settle out and not have to worry with the screen in the funnel

How much volume do you guys plan to lose when transferring from your boil kettle to the fermenter?
This post was edited on 1/26/14 at 3:55 pm
Posted by BottomlandBrew
Member since Aug 2010
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Posted on 1/26/14 at 6:14 pm to
I lose 1.1 gallons to the kettle below the valve. I adjust my recipes to be 6.1 gallon recipes. Works out well. I whirlpool, then drain. Leaves all the trub and hops in the kettle.
Posted by s14suspense
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Posted on 1/26/14 at 6:21 pm to
quote:

I lose 1.1 gallons to the kettle below the valve. I adjust my recipes to be 6.1 gallon recipes. Works out well. I whirlpool, then drain. Leaves all the trub and hops in the kettle.




I need to do all of this calibration with my system soon. I eyeball most everything that beersmith asks for.

I have no idea how much I lose to Trub or hops and I have no idea how much is lost to the mash tun.

Posted by Martini
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Posted on 1/26/14 at 7:48 pm to
How come this thread got this far with no sticky? Needs a sticky.
Posted by LoneStarTiger
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Posted on 1/26/14 at 8:01 pm to
I tried whirlpooling but it didn't seem to work out too well
Posted by BottomlandBrew
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Posted on 1/26/14 at 8:12 pm to
What happened?

My procedure is to cut the heat, lift the kettle up to my saw horse, and start a whirlpool. I give it a good swirl and let it go for 7-10 minutes. By then the wort has stopped moving and it;s crystal clear. I open up the valve and drain. It leaves all the trub in a nice cone. The cone just barely starts to fall apart by the time I'm done draining.

Posted by LoneStarTiger
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Posted on 1/26/14 at 8:14 pm to
Never made a cone. I used my spoon to stir and get it going and then let it settle.
Posted by BugAC
St. George
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Posted on 1/27/14 at 10:37 am to
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Next time I make this I am going to estimate about 1.5 gallons of trub loss. There is so much junk in the bottom of the kettle I'm having a hell of a time getting to 5 gallons


If you are using beersmith, read through these articles (especially the 1st link). They helped me fine tune my system.

LINK

LINK

LINK

The batch i brewed yesterday was the first with this updated profile. I ended up with 7.62 gallons of wort pre-boil. Into the fermenter, i had 5.5 gallons. Just what i was going for. I even left a good 1/4 to 1/2 gallon of trub at the bottom of the kettle.

Also, in the cold weather, you need to really watch how high you are boiling your wort. My brewmometer on my kettle was steady at 212, but in the past, i just had it cranked and i came away with far less wort.
This post was edited on 1/27/14 at 10:40 am
Posted by BugAC
St. George
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Posted on 1/27/14 at 10:44 am to
Oh, and here are a few pics from brew day Saturday.







Posted by s14suspense
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 1/27/14 at 10:51 am to
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Oh, and here are a few pics from brew day Saturday.



Thanks for the links.

Do you not have a male hose barb for your ball valve outlet?
Posted by Fratastic423
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Member since Feb 2007
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Posted on 1/27/14 at 10:54 am to
I am pretty sure that I had the quickest fermentation I have ever had on a beer. No sign of activity this morning on the BIPA I brewed on Saturday. We may have one of the freshest IPAs on record on tap soon at my house.

With the impending closure of work tomorrow and Wednesday, I will have to brew again. Need to go figure out what I want to brew so that when I get home I can run to the homebrew store.
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 1/27/14 at 11:15 am to
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Do you not have a male hose barb for your ball valve outlet?


To connect to the end of my ball valve? No. Don't really need one.
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 1/27/14 at 11:22 am to
And some more oddities in mash efficiency have happened, once again.

So when i initially measured my mash efficiency, i thought beersmith told me 74%. Well, last night, i went back on to look at some stuff in my recipe, and it stated my mash efficiency was 113%, which i know it is not possible. I believe i'm missing something when i input my recipes. It also said my brewhouse efficiency was 84%. However, i just used brewer's friend to calculate my brewhouse efficiency and i'm at 79%.

I hit all my targets (came in 1-2 points high on my OG) and my volumes are correct. Just wondering what i'm inputting in beersmith that may be wrong.
Not worried about the brew, however.
Posted by LoneStarTiger
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Posted on 1/27/14 at 11:27 am to
I'm still extract, at the moment. I probably do boil too rapidly and cause more evaporation loss that I should have, but I've been pretty good on OG for the most part, the one exception being my breakfast stout

I quit trying to pour then clean the screen then pour again yesterday and just settled with 4.75 gallons for the batch. it would be so much easier if I just planned to have 1.5 to 2 gallons left over in the kettle after putting 5 into the fermenter. and if it happens to work out that I can get more then 5 I will use the 7 gallon bucket as a primary.
Posted by LSUGrad00
Member since Dec 2003
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Posted on 1/27/14 at 11:50 am to
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I hit all my targets (came in 1-2 points high on my OG) and my volumes are correct. Just wondering what i'm inputting in beersmith that may be wrong.


Could it be the addition of the turbinado sugar to your boil kettle?
Posted by Fratastic423
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2007
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Posted on 1/27/14 at 11:53 am to
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I quit trying to pour then clean the screen then pour again yesterday and just settled with 4.75 gallons for the batch


Why not just pour everything in and stop pouring when it gets really chunky?
Posted by s14suspense
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2007
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Posted on 1/27/14 at 11:55 am to
quote:

With the impending closure of work tomorrow and Wednesday, I will have to brew again. Need to go figure out what I want to brew so that when I get home I can run to the homebrew store.



Thinking about rebrewing the pilsner if LA Homebrew has all of the noble hops.

quote:

Bug


I'd think that would be the most important place to have one. I don't know. Might work for you, but I use a piece of sanitized tubing to go from kettle to carboy on the cold side.
Posted by LoneStarTiger
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Posted on 1/27/14 at 11:55 am to
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Why not just pour everything in and stop pouring when it gets really chunky?


because I was just over 4 gallons and was greedy and wanted to get closer to the 5 gallons I intended to have
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 1/27/14 at 11:56 am to
quote:

Could it be the addition of the turbinado sugar to your boil kettle?


That is possible. Didn't think about that. I bet that is it, because at mash time, it read correctly.
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