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Posted on 1/27/14 at 11:59 am to
Posted by BugAC
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Posted on 1/27/14 at 11:59 am to
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I'd think that would be the most important place to have one. I don't know. Might work for you, but I use a piece of sanitized tubing to go from kettle to carboy on the cold side.


I just open the ball valve and pour it through a stainless strainer, and into the funnel, through the funnel strainer. After sanitizing the valve, of course. It helps oxygenate the wort as it goes through the 2 strainers. A male barb might reduce the amount of hops going through the valve though, which could help, as not as much wort will be flowing as quickly through the valve.
Posted by LSUGrad00
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Posted on 1/27/14 at 11:59 am to
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I quit trying to pour then clean the screen then pour again yesterday and just settled with 4.75 gallons for the batch.


I transfer everything twice bc I dont want all the wort I can get and don't want to mess with a screen.

whirlpool, let it sit, transfer to carboy A, wait for all the break material to settle, rack to carboy B where I ferment.

I also scale all of my batches to 7 gallons.
Posted by LoneStarTiger
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Posted on 1/27/14 at 12:35 pm to
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I also scale all of my batches to 7 gallons.


really should be the easiest solution to my issue.
Posted by LoneStarTiger
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Posted on 1/27/14 at 12:53 pm to
question regarding Beersmith and Batch size. If using more water with the same amount of grain (or extract) you should be lowering the OG. However, beersmith uses the term batch size for what goes into your fermenter, not necessarily what is left in your pot after the boil. So changing batch sizes from 5 to 7 gallons did not make any difference on my OG, which would be incorrect. It did, however, lower my IBUs.

I'm worried that simply adjusting the water amounts may not end up giving me the correct gravity predictions to shoot for.
Posted by BugAC
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Posted on 1/27/14 at 12:57 pm to
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question regarding Beersmith and Batch size. If using more water with the same amount of grain (or extract) you should be lowering the OG. However, beersmith uses the term batch size for what goes into your fermenter, not necessarily what is left in your pot after the boil. So changing batch sizes from 5 to 7 gallons did not make any difference on my OG, which would be incorrect. It did, however, lower my IBUs.

I'm worried that simply adjusting the water amounts may not end up giving me the correct gravity predictions to shoot for.


Beersmith is more tailored towards all-grain. So i would assume that is the cause for not adjusting. However, i've never encountered this when i did do extract so it could be another factor. Do you have the latest version of beersmith? Also, make sure you have extract selected as your brew type. Your IBU's going down is correct.

also go to this website LINK

They have some good double checks to ensure you're measuring correctly.

ETA: This calculator is what you are looking for Extract OG/FG Calculator
This post was edited on 1/27/14 at 1:01 pm
Posted by LoneStarTiger
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Posted on 1/27/14 at 1:04 pm to
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Do you have the latest version of beersmith? Also, make sure you have extract selected as your brew type.


as far as I know I do, and I have it set to extract. I think it simply is just a math mistake. Changing the batch size to 7 gallons and setting the trub/chiller loss to 0 makes it look more correct.
Posted by LSUGrad00
Member since Dec 2003
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Posted on 1/27/14 at 1:22 pm to
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Changing the batch size to 7 gallons and setting the trub/chiller loss to 0 makes it look more correct.


When I go from 5 to 7 I'll use the scale recipe button and then slightly adjust the grain weights so I'm not ending up with partial ounces.

I ended up zeroing out 'trub/chiller loss bc' too and have been much happier with BeerSmith since.

I want to adjust my recipes based on the efficiency of my mash not base on equipment loss which their 'total efficiency' number includes.



Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 1/27/14 at 4:10 pm to
Question on my yeast: Wyeast 3711 French Saison

Right now my temp controller is set at 72, and will shut off at 73. My beer is fermenting pretty good right now, even have traces of krausen in my blow off tube. As the fermentation goes on, should i raise my temps up a little higher to finish off the way i expected? If so, do i wait until my airlock subsides a bit, or should i raise it now. 3711 temps are 66-77 degrees. I'm thinking, with the cold, to lower my setpoint to 70, but up my differential to 3 or 4. So basically i have a 4 degree boat my wort is sailing in.
Posted by BottomlandBrew
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Posted on 1/27/14 at 4:17 pm to
Raise it now if you're going to raise it. 3711 doesn't throw off as much esters as other strains at higher temps, but it can still benefit from a little higher temps.
Posted by LSUGrad00
Member since Dec 2003
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Posted on 1/27/14 at 4:22 pm to
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If so, do i wait until my airlock subsides a bit, or should i raise it now. 3711 temps are 66-77 degrees. I'm thinking, with the cold, to lower my setpoint to 70, but up my differential to 3 or 4. So basically i have a 4 degree boat my wort is sailing in.


for my porter I kept the ranco set at 68 degrees for the first few days, and then raised the temp by 1 degree each day afterwards up to 73 since I couldn't let it naturally rise in temp.

I would probably do the same thing with a saison... Just set the controller where I wanted my carboy temp to be.

I'm not sure about the differential, I've always set mine to 1 degree.
Posted by BugAC
St. George
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Posted on 1/27/14 at 4:25 pm to
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Raise it now if you're going to raise it. 3711 doesn't throw off as much esters as other strains at higher temps, but it can still benefit from a little higher temps.


I think i'll raise it to 73 with a 2 degree temp differential (73-75), and let that work it's magic for a couple days. Then thursday or friday go 76-77.

Also, i've brewed 1 beer using oak. I actually secondaried an imperial stout in the barrel for about a 3-4 weeks. When i bottled, i got little to no carbonation.

i've read in other places that oak tends to screw with carbonation. This brew, i'm using some white wine soaked french oak chips (.5 oz). Any dangers, you think, with carbonation issues (bottling)?

ETA: And actually, i may or may not eliminate the white wine altogether. Even though they are used for only soaking. Maybe i'll just soak the chips for a day or so to kill any bacteria, instead of for a week, like i was planning.
This post was edited on 1/27/14 at 4:27 pm
Posted by BugAC
St. George
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Posted on 1/27/14 at 4:32 pm to
And another update, my Father-in-law, offered to buy me something that would help me out on my brew day.

He basically asked what i needed to help out on brew day, and to give him a list, and it would be my birthday/christmas/birthday/christmas present. I'm really needing a brew sculpture. Any suggestions on some good ones to get? I want to eventually go with the 3 keg system, or 2 kegs and a brewpot system for brewing, and possibly look at pumping, since a gravity stand would be very tall for kegs. Suggestions?

Also, i still am not kegging, and would like to, eventually. But i'd rather step up my brew game before kegging. Bottling isn't that much of an inconvenience for me.
This post was edited on 1/27/14 at 4:34 pm
Posted by s14suspense
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Posted on 1/27/14 at 4:36 pm to
I'd start kegging and have a kegorator first. Then start thinking about a blichman gravity sculpture or a really good pump setup.
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 1/27/14 at 4:37 pm to
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I'd start kegging and have a kegorator first.


But i like being able to give out homebrews to co-workers/friends/etc... How well do the bottling attachments for kegerators work?
Posted by LSUGrad00
Member since Dec 2003
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Posted on 1/27/14 at 4:39 pm to
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How well do the bottling attachments for kegerators work?


they work very well...

Posted by s14suspense
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2007
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Posted on 1/27/14 at 4:41 pm to
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How well do the bottling attachments for kegerators work?



They work great. I like being able to tote a keg or two to a party or a festival. If kegging really isn't an issue I'd imagine that learning how to deal with a pump setup would be a great next move.
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
57779 posts
Posted on 1/27/14 at 4:42 pm to
How hard is it to use nitrogen vs. CO2 for carbing a keg? Isn't nitro preferred at bars/etc...?
Posted by BottomlandBrew
Member since Aug 2010
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Posted on 1/27/14 at 4:44 pm to
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I think i'll raise it to 73 with a 2 degree temp differential (73-75), and let that work it's magic for a couple days. Then thursday or friday go 76-77.


I'd go ahead and raise it to 76 now. No sense in waiting.

quote:

ETA: And actually, i may or may not eliminate the white wine altogether. Even though they are used for only soaking. Maybe i'll just soak the chips for a day or so to kill any bacteria, instead of for a week, like i was planning.


Go for the white wine. I love my white wine saison.
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 1/27/14 at 4:49 pm to
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Go for the white wine. I love my white wine saison.




I'm a purist, that's my only reservation. I like seeing what the beer is like before adding stuff, but my original recipe was to use white wine oaked chips, so i'll stay with that. But it is just for soaking. I'm not adding any white wine to the brew.
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 1/27/14 at 4:54 pm to
How does this look for a kegerator?

LINK

Kegco K209SS-2 Dual Faucet Kegerator - Black Cabinet with Stainless Steel Door

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