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Has the "craft beer/Brewery" industry declined?

Posted on 9/29/19 at 4:32 pm
Posted by LSUbase13
Mt. Pleasant, SC
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 9/29/19 at 4:32 pm
Has it declined or slowed down, probably the better term.

I was reading some comments in another thread, and they brought up interesting points.

Craft beer and breweries had that huge initial boom (people waiting hours in lines for Pliny, Bourbon County, Heady Topper, etc). Has that, in your opinion, died off? What's the beer industry like in your
city?

Breweries are still poping up, but it has definitely slowed imo. I've honestly noticed more and more cider, meads, and kimbucha options at local bars and restaurants.

It's also died off a lot with friends. Sure, we still have craft beer available at get togethers, tailgates, and bbq, but I've also noticed an increase in Yuenglings, Montucky, etc style beers.
This post was edited on 9/29/19 at 4:34 pm
Posted by t00f
Not where you think I am
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Posted on 9/29/19 at 4:35 pm to
DDH Ghost sold out online in 5 secs the other day.
Posted by Front9Bandit
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 9/29/19 at 4:41 pm to
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DDH Ghost sold out online in 5 secs the other day.


No it didn’t plenty of people added more and more 30-45 minutes after release.
Posted by Paul Allen
Montauk, NY
Member since Nov 2007
78309 posts
Posted on 9/29/19 at 4:43 pm to
Maybe they’ve slowly been declining in certain areas but I think depending on region, it’s still a burgeoning industry. The west coast, Carolinas, Texas, mid Atlantic seem to be growing in brewery numbers.
Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 9/29/19 at 4:45 pm to
It sold out in under a minute, however, an hour later those who put it in their cart and didn't purchase had it released and people were able to buy later.

It also sold out at the brewery as they had 100-150 people in line for it multiple hours before the release.

As far as declining, I doubt... New Orleans has multiple breweries that are all doing well right now Nola, Courtyard, Urban South, Miel, Broad Street Cider, Parleaux, and it appears Zony Mash will do well.

The places that have closed produced shite beer to be honest, as long as a place can find a niche and produce good/above average beer they will have success.

Southern Craft hasn't closed in BR yet because they produce average beer but they've found a customer base because of it. When Gilla, Le Chien, Rally Cap, and Istrouma open it will put pressure on them as they will lose some of that customer base.
Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
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Posted on 9/29/19 at 4:47 pm to
I’m sure things are slowing down some. People don’t talk about the new hot breweries and the special beers as much. The market is probably saturated in some ways also.

I still love my craft beers as much as ever, but the excitement of going to the breweries isn’t there all that much for me these days.
Posted by jennyjones
New Orleans Saints Fan
Member since Apr 2006
9963 posts
Posted on 9/29/19 at 4:49 pm to
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No it didn’t plenty of people added more and more 30-45 minutes after release.


Through a glitch

According to Parish, they had 2,000 transactions in the first 5 minutes. I tried repeatedly to buy some for the first 30 minutes and never could get some. I guess I should have kept on it longer
This post was edited on 9/29/19 at 4:54 pm
Posted by Paul Allen
Montauk, NY
Member since Nov 2007
78309 posts
Posted on 9/29/19 at 4:51 pm to
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excitement of going to the breweries isn’t there all that much for me these days.



Even on vacation out of state? To me, that’s an added benefit of going out of town is scouting for a new brewery or two.
Posted by jennyjones
New Orleans Saints Fan
Member since Apr 2006
9963 posts
Posted on 9/29/19 at 4:52 pm to
quote:

It sold out in under a minute, however, an hour later those who put it in their cart and didn't purchase had it released and people were able to buy later. It also sold out at the brewery as they had 100-150 people in line for it multiple hours before the release. As far as declining, I doubt... New Orleans has multiple breweries that are all doing well right now Nola, Courtyard, Urban South, Miel, Broad Street Cider, Parleaux, and it appears Zony Mash will do well. The places that have closed produced shite beer to be honest, as long as a place can find a niche and produce good/above average beer they will have success. Southern Craft hasn't closed in BR yet because they produce average beer but they've found a customer base because of it. When Gilla, Le Chien, Rally Cap, and Istrouma open it will put pressure on them as they will lose some of that customer base.


All of this is accurate.

The New Orleans craft beer scene took a while to get going but it is continuing to grow at a rapid pace
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
115241 posts
Posted on 9/29/19 at 4:54 pm to
Approaching oversaturation.

Theres only so much of a marketplace.
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
78347 posts
Posted on 9/29/19 at 5:00 pm to
Probably the question is if the market required is sustainable.

Not sure there will be a collapse back to lite beers, but the size and output these breweries require seems hard to support long term.

The craft beer bubble has been predicted to pop longer than the NOLA housing market.
This post was edited on 9/29/19 at 5:01 pm
Posted by L Boogie
Texas
Member since Jul 2009
5213 posts
Posted on 9/29/19 at 5:01 pm to
As someone who works in a craft brewery: No.

We were at capacity with a line to the street on Friday. We only serve beer. People eat that shite up.
Posted by Paul Allen
Montauk, NY
Member since Nov 2007
78309 posts
Posted on 9/29/19 at 5:04 pm to
Plus I’ve noticed a trend where breweries are more family friendly thus allowing parents to bring kids and enjoy themselves and not worry about a babysitter.
Posted by ragincajun03
Member since Nov 2007
29151 posts
Posted on 9/29/19 at 5:08 pm to
I don’t know if it’s declining as much as there’s oversaturation.

And the over-promotion of average craft breweries by stores, like Karbach and Ballast Point, doesn’t help either.
Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
61722 posts
Posted on 9/29/19 at 5:14 pm to
Oh hell yeah I still search for breweries while I’m on vacation. I’m dying to take a trip to Asheville for that very reason.
Was just meaning that I’m not dying to run to a brewery every weekend like Used to
Posted by L Boogie
Texas
Member since Jul 2009
5213 posts
Posted on 9/29/19 at 5:16 pm to
We do get kids in our spot, but almost always only on weekends during the day or right at open on weekdays. Generally birthday/graduation/engagement parties (we have a HUGE space and often do large reservations).

So, technically, we are family friendly but don't usually get kids...when we do, our security reminds folks to keep their eyeballs on their children as we are not babysitters.

Also, we are a neighborhood brewery, so we are going to be busy pretty much no matter what. We have good beer and a great vibe/fun events, but we are also within walking distance for tons of people in one of the most densely populated cities in the country. Especially when the weather is bad...people will walk through a blizzard for beer. Cabin fever is real!

We've built a really good thing in a great location, but I do agree that there's an over-saturation. We had two local breweries announce closures just this weekend.

Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
161246 posts
Posted on 9/29/19 at 5:18 pm to
Not even close compared to the number of people, BR and Nola could each sustain 3-5 more
Posted by Zappas Stache
Utility Muffin Research Kitchen
Member since Apr 2009
43113 posts
Posted on 9/29/19 at 6:07 pm to
Booming in Big D. I think what we are seeing now is craft beer is becoming mainstream. Even non-beerknurds drink craft beer which is helping the market expand. Like FT said, there will be some shakeout when we hit a recession. People will think twice about paying $17 for a 4 pack of beer.
Posted by Paul Allen
Montauk, NY
Member since Nov 2007
78309 posts
Posted on 9/29/19 at 6:11 pm to
Beer is becoming less egalitarian over the years. Similar to craft donuts. You would think of beer as blue collar 15 or so years ago now it’s more of an upscale beverage. Just like the explosion of craft and complex donuts (District donuts). You’d think of police officers and blue collar everyday people with donuts now some cost over 5.00 a donut.

Instagram is fueling a lot of the popularity of beer and fancy gourmet donuts.

Wonder if the whiskey craze is going to outlast the brewery craze?
Posted by t00f
Not where you think I am
Member since Jul 2016
102080 posts
Posted on 9/29/19 at 6:19 pm to
Paul.

DD comment blew your cover.
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