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re: Financial Stability of Breweries in This State
Posted on 9/1/17 at 3:35 pm to Jax-Tiger
Posted on 9/1/17 at 3:35 pm to Jax-Tiger
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How difficult is it for a restaurant to get a great local beer in LA, other than Envie? There is a limited amount of really good local beer available to restaurants because the really good beer is bought up so quickly.
Most places in town are hip to the beer fad these days. Only a few of the classic old school joints aren't jumping on the wagon. Funny seeing some of them posting kegs of ghost on social media but then serving them in frosted mugs.
Posted on 9/1/17 at 4:09 pm to Deactived
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I may be in the minority here but I wont scratch a place off of places to eat because they lack a good beer list. im going there for the food, not beer.
Locally, I agree.
I also am perfectly fine with a cocktail or bottle of wine, though.
When I travel though, I'll most certainly make many (but not all) dining decisions based on the beer selection. If I can find a place with excellent food and a great beer selection, jackpot.
Posted on 9/1/17 at 4:17 pm to Jax-Tiger
you do realize Portland is a lot different than Louisiana, yes?
Posted on 9/1/17 at 4:21 pm to NIH
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you do realize Portland is a lot different than Louisiana, yes?
He seems to have pretty good insight into both places, so I'm guessing he does.
It didn't seem like he was presenting that as a purely analogous situation either, more just sort of a cautionary tale. Seemed clear enough to me, and I thought it an interesting addition to the conversation.
Why be a douche?
Posted on 9/1/17 at 4:26 pm to LSUBoo
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I may be in the minority here but I wont scratch a place off of places to eat because they lack a good beer list. im going there for the food, not beer.
Locally, I agree.
I also am perfectly fine with a cocktail or bottle of wine, though.
When I travel though, I'll most certainly make many (but not all) dining decisions based on the beer selection. If I can find a place with excellent food and a great beer selection, jackpot.
I can't do that. Most asian and indian places here have terrible beer selection but no way I am not going back. I just order a Jack and Coke.
Posted on 9/1/17 at 4:36 pm to notiger1997
LA still ranks close to last place in breweries per capita. There are a lot of states with many more breweries, and some of those breweries make bad beer. Seems making bad beer isn't enough to close the doors, at least not yet. I'd wager poor business practices is by far and away the leading cause of breweries going under. Cashflow is king, and margins are low in agricultural manufacturing.
There will eventually be a purge like there was 20 years ago, but I don't see it too soon.
There will eventually be a purge like there was 20 years ago, but I don't see it too soon.
Posted on 9/1/17 at 4:40 pm to BottomlandBrew
Margins are much much better in the taproom. The places with a strong tap room following will make it. The places that are looking to distribute only will have a more challenging time.
Posted on 9/1/17 at 4:54 pm to Packer
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I'd be very surprised if Port Orleans lasted. They at least have food at the brewery, but the beer is average at best.
No way, besides the money behind it its in a great location with a lot of outdoor seating, good TVs, and one block from the best music club in town. I've only been 2 times, both times there were groups of just women hanging out. That doesn't mean they have good beer, but it does mean they are probably making money.
In fact if I can get out the house tonight I might go just to have a beer before walking to the Tips.
Posted on 9/1/17 at 5:04 pm to Fat Harry
Does Louisiana still limit taproom sales to 10% for production breweries? That's the stupidest fricking law.
Posted on 9/1/17 at 5:08 pm to Y.A. Tittle
Wasn't trying to be a douche
The population here is nothing like Portland. The amount of people here who are even open to craft beer is pretty small.
The population here is nothing like Portland. The amount of people here who are even open to craft beer is pretty small.
Posted on 9/1/17 at 5:11 pm to Fat Harry
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The places with a strong tap room following will make it. The places that are looking to distribute only will have a more challenging time.
So what do you think would happen to craft beer in LA if the laws were rewritten and all of the rules restricting how much you can sell on site vs what you can distribute were erased, and the 3 tier distribution system was scrapped?
Would you see an explosion in brewpubs?
Posted on 9/1/17 at 5:22 pm to Deactived
Depends on the type, casual I will. More upscale I don't care because I'm not going for the beer.
Posted on 9/1/17 at 7:22 pm to NIH
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The population here is nothing like Portland. The amount of people here who are even open to craft beer is pretty small.
That's the same everywhere. Everyone in the US was drinking the same stuff 20 years ago. It's only been the last 10 years that craft beer has really taken off. Louisiana is behind the curve, for sure, if you look at the breweries per capita.
I guess my earlier question could be turned around to ask, "Co the archaic brewery laws slow the growth of craft beer in Louisiana?"
I think craft beer has a lot of room for growth, and it will happen. Craft beer is not a fad and it isn't limited to certain areas of the country.
Posted on 9/1/17 at 7:23 pm to Jax-Tiger
I'm surprised MudBugs is still around, they already fired their original brewer and hired another
They do have Thibodaux and Houma on lock down and apparently people like their King Cake Ale, so it isn't a huge surprise but still
They do have Thibodaux and Houma on lock down and apparently people like their King Cake Ale, so it isn't a huge surprise but still
This post was edited on 9/1/17 at 7:24 pm
Posted on 9/1/17 at 9:58 pm to tduecen
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and apparently people like their King Cake Ale
Oh lawdy!
Posted on 9/1/17 at 10:55 pm to notiger1997
Mecca has Flying Tiger...excellent beers. Not sure how it is doing financially, but it has strong ownership. If you are in town and do not visit, you screwed up.
Posted on 9/2/17 at 7:00 am to tduecen
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I'm surprised MudBugs is still around, they already fired their original brewer and hired another
Hopefully the new guy can make some changes, and they actually advertise that they're changing recipes.
I've tried all of their stuff but never buy it a second time.
Posted on 9/2/17 at 7:47 am to Jax-Tiger
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guess my earlier question could be turned around to ask, "Co the archaic brewery laws slow the growth of craft beer in Louisiana?"
Yes, but Louisiana is gonna Louisiana.
Posted on 9/2/17 at 7:49 am to SLafourche07
They've changed the recipe on several of their beers including the King Cake with the previous Brewer. Those were all his recipes that they still use today I'm sure
Posted on 9/2/17 at 8:14 am to tduecen
From what I heard, they let Leith keep his recipes. It's not like they wanted them if they weren't selling.
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