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Fifteen unconventional steps to the perfect turkey.
Posted on 11/28/17 at 4:06 pm
Posted on 11/28/17 at 4:06 pm
I think I have perfected my turkey recipe. Leading up to thanksgiving, I did four separate birds. All in an attempt to improve the standard recipe. This was my final recipe.
Step one, choose an unbrined (or at least not overbrined) bird. Usually I would choose UNDER 15lbs, but with this recipe, it won’t matter. You can cook a 20lb bird to perfection.
Step two, rinse bird well, remove excess skin around neck and bottom. You want room for the brine, and later air, to flow through.
Step three, get a large, preferably insulated, container capable of holding the turkey PLUS 2-3 gallons of ice. Put roughly 20lbs of ice into container.
Step four, dump a single bottle of Italian dressing into the ice. Add a single container of $1 creole seasoning to the ice. Add a $1 bottle of chicken seasoning to the ice as well. Add two cups of light brown sugar. Add just enough water to the ice to make it able to be stirred. Mix well.
Step five, submerge bird in the mix.
Step six, wait at least 6 hours.
Step seven, assemble your roasting pan with rack. Under the rack, place 10-15 papertowels.
Step eight, remove bird from the brine and place on the roasting rack.
Step nine, we’re about to get weird. Using an injecting syringe, inject one full syringe of brine into every part of the bird. Try to minimize leakage by burying the needle into each piece of meat. One in each wing. One in each side of the back. One into each thigh. One into each leg. Two into each breast. Your bird should weigh 4-5 lbs more than his original weight at this point.
Step ten, place paper towels inside the bird. Both ends.
Step eleven, lightly salt the exterior of the bird with kosher salt.
Step twelve, place the roasting pan in the refrigerator, uncovered, for at least twelve hours. The goal is to dry the skin as much as possible.
Step thirteen, remove the pan from the fridge, the bird will have lost a significant amount of water weight. This is fine, it will still be bloated. Remove the papertowels. Discard. Dry the roasting pan with paper towels. Discard. And now things are going to get even odder.
Step fourteen, in a bottle or jar, combine 14 oz of canola oil and 4 table spoons of your favorite creole seasoning. Shake well. Now inject your bird with this oil mixture. Two shots in each breast. Take the remaining oil and spice mixture, rub your bird down well. Don’t miss a single spot. Toss a tablespoon of minced garlic inside the cavity. In the bottom of the roasting pan, dump a single apple cider. Place the turkey, breast down, in the roasting pan. The cider has very little aromatic effect, it is meant to stop the leaking oil and juices from the turkey from destroying your oven.
Step fifteen, crank oven to 400, and roast bird for one hour. Remove from oven, flip breast side up, insert probe thermometer, and return to oven, boost temp to 425, and roast until breast hits 165 degrees. Yes, I know it is going to carry over heat. I know you should pull the bird around 155 in the breast. Trust me on this one. 165. Do not cover for the 15 minute rest. Let the skin breath and stay crispy.
For carving, I want you to completely remove the breast from the bird and then bring to platter for slicing.
If it is not the most flavorful, juiciest, you screwed something up.
Step one, choose an unbrined (or at least not overbrined) bird. Usually I would choose UNDER 15lbs, but with this recipe, it won’t matter. You can cook a 20lb bird to perfection.
Step two, rinse bird well, remove excess skin around neck and bottom. You want room for the brine, and later air, to flow through.
Step three, get a large, preferably insulated, container capable of holding the turkey PLUS 2-3 gallons of ice. Put roughly 20lbs of ice into container.
Step four, dump a single bottle of Italian dressing into the ice. Add a single container of $1 creole seasoning to the ice. Add a $1 bottle of chicken seasoning to the ice as well. Add two cups of light brown sugar. Add just enough water to the ice to make it able to be stirred. Mix well.
Step five, submerge bird in the mix.
Step six, wait at least 6 hours.
Step seven, assemble your roasting pan with rack. Under the rack, place 10-15 papertowels.
Step eight, remove bird from the brine and place on the roasting rack.
Step nine, we’re about to get weird. Using an injecting syringe, inject one full syringe of brine into every part of the bird. Try to minimize leakage by burying the needle into each piece of meat. One in each wing. One in each side of the back. One into each thigh. One into each leg. Two into each breast. Your bird should weigh 4-5 lbs more than his original weight at this point.
Step ten, place paper towels inside the bird. Both ends.
Step eleven, lightly salt the exterior of the bird with kosher salt.
Step twelve, place the roasting pan in the refrigerator, uncovered, for at least twelve hours. The goal is to dry the skin as much as possible.
Step thirteen, remove the pan from the fridge, the bird will have lost a significant amount of water weight. This is fine, it will still be bloated. Remove the papertowels. Discard. Dry the roasting pan with paper towels. Discard. And now things are going to get even odder.
Step fourteen, in a bottle or jar, combine 14 oz of canola oil and 4 table spoons of your favorite creole seasoning. Shake well. Now inject your bird with this oil mixture. Two shots in each breast. Take the remaining oil and spice mixture, rub your bird down well. Don’t miss a single spot. Toss a tablespoon of minced garlic inside the cavity. In the bottom of the roasting pan, dump a single apple cider. Place the turkey, breast down, in the roasting pan. The cider has very little aromatic effect, it is meant to stop the leaking oil and juices from the turkey from destroying your oven.
Step fifteen, crank oven to 400, and roast bird for one hour. Remove from oven, flip breast side up, insert probe thermometer, and return to oven, boost temp to 425, and roast until breast hits 165 degrees. Yes, I know it is going to carry over heat. I know you should pull the bird around 155 in the breast. Trust me on this one. 165. Do not cover for the 15 minute rest. Let the skin breath and stay crispy.
For carving, I want you to completely remove the breast from the bird and then bring to platter for slicing.
If it is not the most flavorful, juiciest, you screwed something up.
This post was edited on 11/28/17 at 4:08 pm
Posted on 11/28/17 at 4:10 pm to X123F45
Why rinse it? And it can't be perfect if you didn't dry brine.
Posted on 11/28/17 at 4:15 pm to Mo Jeaux
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Why rinse it?
Unless you have an artisinal bird, there are likely bone fragments and feathers lingering around.
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dry brine
But you did. Only lightly, and after a wet brine
This post was edited on 11/28/17 at 4:18 pm
Posted on 11/28/17 at 4:31 pm to X123F45
Or just spatchcock, dry brine, and smoke.
Posted on 11/28/17 at 4:35 pm to KosmoCramer
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Or just spatchcock, dry brine, and smoke.
That was turkey #2. Meh. It was MEH.
Birds these days lack any real depth of flavor.
This post was edited on 11/28/17 at 4:51 pm
Posted on 11/28/17 at 4:42 pm to X123F45
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dump a single bottle of Italian dressing into the ice.
I'm going to keep reading, but this is a classic FDB troll red flag.
Posted on 11/28/17 at 4:47 pm to GRTiger
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I'm going to keep reading, but this is a classic FDB troll red flag.
More like the whole sentence. $1 seasoning where?
Posted on 11/28/17 at 4:51 pm to t00f
If you go to any grocery store not named collandros, target, or Wal-Mart, they sell $1 seasoning blends. Cheap seasonings. Ironically, they contain minimal salt with a dose of monosodium glutamate.
I will happily take a picture for you when I get home.
Also, as for the Italian dressing, it seems silly, but I didn't have any rice wine vinegar and wished to add a little tang.
The entire recipe was a mad scientist's situation. But I cannot argue with the final product.
I will happily take a picture for you when I get home.
Also, as for the Italian dressing, it seems silly, but I didn't have any rice wine vinegar and wished to add a little tang.
The entire recipe was a mad scientist's situation. But I cannot argue with the final product.
Posted on 11/28/17 at 4:54 pm to X123F45
OK, well props to you. Just seems like a lot of work.
My turkey was money last week with much less steps.
My turkey was money last week with much less steps.
Posted on 11/28/17 at 4:57 pm to t00f
I can condense steps.
Brine. Inject. Dry. Inject. Roast.
It was legitimately the juiciest bird I've ever had. That includes ducks.
Brine. Inject. Dry. Inject. Roast.
It was legitimately the juiciest bird I've ever had. That includes ducks.
Posted on 11/28/17 at 7:50 pm to X123F45
Brah, you forgot to sous vide.
I’ve started my bird for next year in a 140.5 water bath and it will go until the day before Thanksgiving next year. Then one day in the refrigerator to dry brine and then on the big green eggs with a light sugarcane smoke until the breast is 160.
The best thing is the weight loss from the dysentery you get for being just out of the food safety zone for 350 plus days.
I’ve started my bird for next year in a 140.5 water bath and it will go until the day before Thanksgiving next year. Then one day in the refrigerator to dry brine and then on the big green eggs with a light sugarcane smoke until the breast is 160.
The best thing is the weight loss from the dysentery you get for being just out of the food safety zone for 350 plus days.
Posted on 11/28/17 at 8:00 pm to X123F45
While I appreciate your efforts & believe your bird was the
Wouldn't the fat in the dressing solidify when it mixes with the ice?
I don't quite understand the science behind your method but that doesn't mean it wasn't effective.
quote:turkey, I have a couple of questions regarding
most flavorful, juiciest
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dump a single bottle of Italian dressing into the ice
Wouldn't the fat in the dressing solidify when it mixes with the ice?
I don't quite understand the science behind your method but that doesn't mean it wasn't effective.
Posted on 11/28/17 at 9:32 pm to BigDropper
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Wouldn't the fat in the dressing solidify when it mixes with the ice
Not solidified, but not mixed in with the brine.
I really just wanted the vinegar and spices out of it. Mainly the vinegar.
Posted on 11/28/17 at 10:13 pm to X123F45
That is one hellified recipe...lol. I'm kinda half-curious to try it just because it's so different from ANYTHING I've ever seen. The only similarities between your bird and mine is the rinse. I'm a dry brine/smoke it kinda guy.
If somebody gifts me one I'll give it a shot...lol. But I'm still smoking a backup bird.
If somebody gifts me one I'll give it a shot...lol. But I'm still smoking a backup bird.
Posted on 11/28/17 at 10:54 pm to GeauxTigers0107
Kroger had turkeys for $.37/lb at Thanksgiving- maybe they'll do it again at Christmas. Cheap gamble!
Posted on 11/29/17 at 1:30 am to X123F45
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Birds these days lack any real depth of flavor.
Wet brining is going to dilute any natural flavors your bird has, dry-brining enhances them.
If if you dry-brine and still have flavor issues then look at your meat source or possibly cooking method.
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