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re: Draft House (BR) Calling it Quits

Posted on 10/2/17 at 9:09 pm to
Posted by Paul Allen
Montauk, NY
Member since Nov 2007
75195 posts
Posted on 10/2/17 at 9:09 pm to
How does Baton Rouge even have a Watermark brand hotel?
Posted by bosoxjo13
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2008
3250 posts
Posted on 10/2/17 at 9:55 pm to
It's called not paying your taxes and getting evicted by your landlord. The other places will follow soon
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
134860 posts
Posted on 10/2/17 at 10:11 pm to
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I think this calls for a committee to study downtown development

who's catering?


Raff an Cancun's like always
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
134860 posts
Posted on 10/2/17 at 10:13 pm to
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Stayed at the Watermark this weekend. Around 11:30 after the game, wife and I walked 3rd St. to check it out. First block of of North Blvd was OK, but once we crossed Florida it was a bit disconcerting. Got to Main and decided it was time to get out of there. As we were walking back, wife heard a 'young lady' say "What are THEY doing here." Knew it was time head back.

Unfortunately, this is a reality that will hinder BR from here on out. It's sad that the downtown investments will eventually be wasted.
Posted by jimbeam
University of LSU
Member since Oct 2011
75703 posts
Posted on 10/2/17 at 10:50 pm to
Wait is downtown no longer legit? Been a couple years since I've been but the few bars I went to (RH, happys, B&T) were cool
Posted by Jones
Member since Oct 2005
90504 posts
Posted on 10/2/17 at 11:06 pm to
It's dead Sunday to Thursday.

On Friday and Saturday, it's flooded with a bunch of trashy people, white and black.

Very few LSU people and people that go to bars like overpass, olive, and bulldog go downtown on a regular basis. Downtown is flooded with people from Baker, Central, and Zachary.
Posted by tigers1956
baton rouge
Member since Oct 2008
4778 posts
Posted on 10/3/17 at 4:16 am to
It has turned into a very shady clientele late at night...kinda like tigerland once the students are gone for the summer...
Posted by Paul Allen
Montauk, NY
Member since Nov 2007
75195 posts
Posted on 10/3/17 at 7:03 am to
quote:

people from Baker, Central, and Zachary.


So, Texas Club is no longer a thing?
Posted by ragincajun03
Member since Nov 2007
21227 posts
Posted on 10/3/17 at 7:45 am to
I'm good with John Delgado having unsuccessful businesses.
Posted by Cash
Vail
Member since Feb 2005
37243 posts
Posted on 10/3/17 at 7:57 am to
Delgado won't get much sympathy between how he handled St. George to Alton Sterling.
Posted by BRIllini07
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2015
3014 posts
Posted on 10/3/17 at 8:14 am to
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It has turned into a very shady clientele late at night...kinda like tigerland once the students are gone for the summer...


Maybe I'm too optimistic but I think it's salvageable. The Marriott construction is teaming up with that little homeless convenience store, Schlitz, and Raising Cane's to create a little bit of an artificial border at 3rd and Florida at the moment. But replace that dark construction site with a well lighted hotel and it won't look as daunting for non-locals to cross to that side of 3rd St.

Driftwood, Magpie, Blend, etc... aren't really catering to that crowd. River Room ia mixed clientele but the drinks aren't cheap enough to really pull in trash.

The additional 140 apartments or so will also help a little, provided the businesses down there do their part.

But the businesses have to do their part and try to be compete outright, and this is the part that they've sucked at. Draft House could have easily anchored that end of 3rd St, and they flat out chose not to.

It's a type of bar that exists anywhere in the country. The Flying Saucer anchored a dead Houston downtown district for years, practically all alone. The Bulldog in BR is a pain in the rear to get to from just about anywhere in the city, and people fight traffic up and down College Dr. just to get there.

The college population turns over every 4 years, with the population of over 21 college students turns over every 2 years. All of the hotel traffic is largely non-resident business travelers on the weekdays and wedding guests on the weekends, so all of that should combine to help any area re-invent itself pretty quickly if it wants to...but it has to want it.

This isn't New Orleans or some other major tourist hub where you can get rich by just sitting back and leaching off of neighboring businesses.

Posted by Paul Allen
Montauk, NY
Member since Nov 2007
75195 posts
Posted on 10/3/17 at 8:51 am to
I appreciate your optimism, but there needs to be more jobs than an IBM project that seems to be more sizzle than steak. Commerce needs to come to BR and then you'll see a resurgence that isn't capricious.
Posted by Loungefly85
Lafayette
Member since Jul 2016
7930 posts
Posted on 10/3/17 at 9:04 am to
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The Marriott construction is teaming up with that little homeless convenience store, Schlitz, and Raising Cane's to create a little bit of an artificial border at 3rd and Florida at the moment. But replace that dark construction site with a well lighted hotel and it won't look as daunting for non-locals to cross to that side of 3rd St.


I think that large apartment complex they're building on 6th and Florida is going to play a big part too. I'm pretty sure it's not "mixed income" so it should infuse a lot of younger people with disposable income into downtown once it's complete.
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
134860 posts
Posted on 10/3/17 at 9:34 am to
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I'm pretty sure it's not "mixed income"

All apartments downtown have to have mixed income by law
Posted by NoCarsGo
Baton Rouge and I-10
Member since Nov 2015
115 posts
Posted on 10/3/17 at 9:50 am to
We also do NOT have a legit Public Transportation system! If there was an easier way to get to and from downtown it would be utilized more and Baton Rouge is not addicted to UBER yet.
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
28341 posts
Posted on 10/3/17 at 10:23 am to
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We also do NOT have a legit Public Transportation system! If there was an easier way to get to and from downtown it would be utilized more and Baton Rouge is not addicted to UBER yet.


What? What kind of public transportation system are you proposing that BR doesn't already have? There are NUMEROUS 1/4 full city buses patrolling the streets of BR. There is a downtown trolly that literally drives around all day with no riders. There are cabs available for anyone who wants to use them. It's not exactly difficult to get to downtown BR.

This post was edited on 10/3/17 at 10:24 am
Posted by Spock's Eyebrow
Member since May 2012
12300 posts
Posted on 10/3/17 at 10:35 am to
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What? What kind of public transportation system are you proposing that BR doesn't already have? There are NUMEROUS 1/4 full city buses patrolling the streets of BR.


The downtown CATS bus stop was moved a year or two ago from the Old State Capitol to the Frostop, which is kind of a joke.

quote:

There is a downtown trolly that literally drives around all day with no riders.


According to their website, the trolley runs its short route from South Blvd to the Capitol on weekdays 10:30 AM to 2:30 PM.

quote:

There are cabs available for anyone who wants to use them. It's not exactly difficult to get to downtown BR.


I'd say it's as difficult to get to downtown as it is most other places in BR.
Posted by BRIllini07
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2015
3014 posts
Posted on 10/3/17 at 11:13 am to
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I think that large apartment complex they're building on 6th and Florida is going to play a big part too. I'm pretty sure it's not "mixed income" so it should infuse a lot of younger people with disposable income into downtown once it's complete.


I'll also add for people moving into that River House on Nicholson, downtown will be their closest walkable district. Also, the upper class housing going up on Nicholson North of Tiger Stadium works well for them taking the 2-3 mile jaunt to downtown to avoid the underage drinking scene at Tigerland, etc...
Posted by Jones
Member since Oct 2005
90504 posts
Posted on 10/3/17 at 4:17 pm to
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The Bulldog in BR is a pain in the rear to get to from just about anywhere in the city, and people fight traffic up and down College Dr. just to get there.


I guess if you're trying to go at 5pm.

College Dr has no traffic after 6pm along with Perkins.
Posted by timbo
Red Stick, La.
Member since Dec 2011
7315 posts
Posted on 10/3/17 at 4:44 pm to
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All apartments downtown have to have mixed income by law





Rents at 525 Lafayette (IBM Building) start at $1,600 for a 1 bedroom.
https://www.rentcafe.com/apartments/la/baton-rouge/525-lafayette/default.aspx

Commerce Building rents start at $1,175.
https://www.apartmentguide.com/apartments/Louisiana/Baton-Rouge/The-Commerce-Building/100028758/

440 on Third rents start at $1,000.
https://www.rentcafe.com/apartments/la/baton-rouge/440-on-third/default.aspx

The Lofts@6C, that big complex under construction on Florida, will start at $900 a month.

https://www.theadvocate.com/baton_rouge/news/business/article_2b3e2d89-0ee1-553c-96e9-80e3e1ead7bf.html
This post was edited on 10/3/17 at 4:48 pm
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