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Do you season with salt after brining?

Posted on 10/12/16 at 2:00 pm
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 10/12/16 at 2:00 pm
Finding mixed info on the internet.

I'm roasting a whole bird and I want the skin to be crispy, so I'm generally pretty heavy on the salt.

This is my first time brining beforehand.
Posted by LSUBoo
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Posted on 10/12/16 at 2:03 pm to
Yeah, but only between 1 and 4 grams, and never multiple times.
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 10/12/16 at 2:05 pm to
Posted by gmrkr5
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Posted on 10/12/16 at 2:22 pm to
quote:

Do you season with salt after brining?

very carefully, if at all
Posted by LSU Tiger Bob
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Posted on 10/12/16 at 2:37 pm to
To many variables! Type of meat. Salinity of brine. How long in the brine? etc. etc. etc. So my answer is: Yes. No! Sometimes. It depends.
Posted by TigernMS12
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Posted on 10/12/16 at 2:45 pm to
If we're talking poultry, then yes I do, but only after I have thoroughly washed the bird under clean, running water.
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 10/12/16 at 2:45 pm to
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Type of meat


chicken - whole bird

quote:

Salinity of brine.


eh...not sure? about 4 oz of salt plus other spices with enough water to cover a 3 lb bird

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How long in the brine?


24 hours
Posted by TigernMS12
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Posted on 10/12/16 at 2:50 pm to
I would wash the bird, pat dry, and then season the outside as you want. Brining gets to salty when a bird is seasoned after a brine without washing all the salt from the brine before seasoning.
Posted by Tiger Ryno
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Posted on 10/12/16 at 3:15 pm to
Honest question...what does brining actually mean?soak in salt water?
Posted by CHEDBALLZ
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Posted on 10/12/16 at 3:18 pm to
I brine 60=70% of all pork and chicken that I cook, I rarely add any salt when I brine something.
Posted by gmrkr5
NC
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Posted on 10/12/16 at 3:22 pm to
quote:

Honest question...what does brining actually mean?soak in salt water?


pretty much
Posted by Trout Bandit
Baton Rouge, LA
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Posted on 10/12/16 at 3:47 pm to
I brined a chicken last week and then seasoned it and it was a bit too salty. Next time I'll make a weaker brine or soak it for a shorter period of time.
Posted by tlsu15
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Posted on 10/12/16 at 6:31 pm to
quote:

I brine 60=70% of all pork and chicken that I cook, I rarely add any salt when I brine something.


What? How are you making your brine?
Posted by Stadium Rat
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Posted on 10/12/16 at 9:13 pm to
If you really want the skin crispy, rinse off all the brine and use a spoon to separate the skin from the flesh. For extra effect, rub butter and herbs between the skin and flesh.
Posted by Martini
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Posted on 10/12/16 at 9:31 pm to
quote:

Do you season with salt after brining? If you really want the skin crispy, rinse off all the brine and use a spoon to separate the skin from the flesh. For extra effect, rub butter and herbs between the skin and flesh.


Or stick the hose from an air compressor under it and let it separate the skin from the meat.

1 cup salt, 1 cup sugar, 1 gallon water = basic brine

Would not let a whole chicken brine more than 12 hours, cup up pieces about 4-6 hours.

Wash with cool water after brining, pat dry very well, put in icebox uncovered for as long as you have before cooking, a day or 2 is best for crispy chicken.

Roast at 400 until done, (about 60 minutes in a 400 oven)

I cut salt to 3/4 cup. Add whatever you like to brine.

Can salt a bit before cooking but really not needed.
Posted by Parallax
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Posted on 10/12/16 at 10:14 pm to
The key to crispy skin is drying the skin and separating it as mentioned above.

Brining doesn't really add salt or whatever else is in the brine to the food. The point of the salty/hyperosmolar brine is to use osmosis to force water into the protein and make it juicier.
Posted by KosmoCramer
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Posted on 10/12/16 at 11:03 pm to
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The point of the salty/hyperosmolar brine is to use osmosis to force water into the protein and make it juicier.


Actually false, it's not osmosis. And the water has very little to do with the added "juice".


quote:

Brining doesn't really add salt or whatever else is in the brine to the food.


True.
Posted by Parallax
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Posted on 10/12/16 at 11:13 pm to
Go ahead and tell us what it does if it's not osmosis.
Posted by KosmoCramer
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Posted on 10/12/16 at 11:21 pm to
Osmosis is water moving through a semi-permiable membrane from an area of low concentration to an area of high concentration. If it were osmosis the meat would actually be less moist.

The salt breaks down the surface proteins of the meat which reduces the amount that they "open up" when the bird is cooked. It's the reason why dry brining is just as effective as wet brining, if not more so.

Soaking the bird in plain water also adds water to the bird pre-cook, but that is quickly removed due to the lack of the surface protein break down. The retention of water in both the wet brine and soak in plain water is from regular diffusion, not osmosis.
This post was edited on 10/12/16 at 11:23 pm
Posted by tlsu15
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Posted on 10/13/16 at 12:35 pm to
All of this is true. It's not osmosis, that's a common misconception.


Sprinkle in a little baking powder with your salt brine if you are going to make a bird with the skin on. It helps make the skin extra crispy when you cook it up.
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