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re: Ciders discussion

Posted on 6/22/16 at 3:00 pm to
Posted by AbitaFan08
Boston, MA
Member since Apr 2008
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Posted on 6/22/16 at 3:00 pm to
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I sampled about 15 last week and many of them were not very sweet. That is what is so cool.


Yeah there are some up here that I have actually enjoyed. There's a maple one in the winter, as well as a spiced pumpkin one in the fall that are lower on the sweetness scale. But honestly, even those I think I'd have to switch over to something else after 2 or 3.
Posted by AbitaFan08
Boston, MA
Member since Apr 2008
27902 posts
Posted on 6/22/16 at 3:03 pm to
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How many apple trees you run across here?


About as many avocado trees as I run across up here...yet I still see them for sale.

I didn't say I ran the math and have a small business proposal to bring to a bank, I just think it's a niche market that will be growing in popularity in the future.
Posted by tlsu15
Capital of Texas
Member since Aug 2011
10551 posts
Posted on 6/22/16 at 3:05 pm to
There's a local cidery here in Dallas that just opened a second location this year. I too wasn't a fan of cider until I tried some more interesting flavors from a local place.

They are putting out about 5 ciders at a time, most of them pretty good. The crackberry (cranberry and blackberry) being my favorite:

LINK
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
111671 posts
Posted on 6/22/16 at 3:06 pm to
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About as many avocado trees as I run across up here...yet I still see them for sale.



We sell plenty of apples too, but you need a large bulk quantity readily available, to make something like cider profitable, which would likely explain why most of the production is in regions where apples grow abundantly. I just can't see it making sense to produce here.

There's plenty of things to lament Louisiana production being 'late in the game on', I just don't necessarily see this as one. I wouldn't really see the benefit of shipping in pre-processed juice, except for maybe a tiny niche type production.
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
111671 posts
Posted on 6/22/16 at 3:10 pm to
Also, my neighbor has an avocado tree growing like crazy in his yard.

The next producing apple tree I see in Louisiana will be the first.
This post was edited on 6/22/16 at 3:13 pm
Posted by AbitaFan08
Boston, MA
Member since Apr 2008
27902 posts
Posted on 6/22/16 at 3:33 pm to
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There's plenty of things to lament Louisiana production being 'late in the game on', I just don't necessarily see this as one.


I never said Louisiana was late to the game. I think it's still a very new concept. I realize apples don't grow in LA, I just don't think that's an insurmountable hurdle. That's my point. But it's not like I've run the numbers or anything.

See the poster above who mentioned a cidery in Dallas as an example.
This post was edited on 6/22/16 at 3:40 pm
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
58301 posts
Posted on 6/22/16 at 3:43 pm to
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I definitely think craft cider is the next big thing, but like with most things, LA will be a good 10 years behind




I disagree. The reason being, is that beer already had a base. Craft started by exposing that base to other beers outside of the big 3. Then you have all the new craft fans and there you go.

Cider doesn't have a very large base compared to beer. So breaking away from the traditional cider guys, i don't really see it being a big boom, the way craft beer has been.

Now none of this doesn't mean craft cider isn't good. I really wouldn't know. My experience with cider is woodchuck, and i dont care for it. Way too sweet.
Posted by Matisyeezy
End of the bar, Drunk
Member since Feb 2012
16638 posts
Posted on 6/22/16 at 4:09 pm to
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Cider doesn't have a very large base compared to beer. So breaking away from the traditional cider guys, i don't really see it being a big boom, the way craft beer has been.



I think the logic is probably that this is an extension of the craft beer boom.
Posted by Tigertown in ATL
Georgia foothills
Member since Sep 2009
30431 posts
Posted on 6/22/16 at 4:18 pm to
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I think the logic is probably that this is an extension of the craft beer boom.


I'd say so.

The place in Seattle we went to had a pretty decent craft beer list as well-obviously for the friends of the cider drinkers or those like me who just want to try both.

I'm excited about this thread simply because like I said, I didn't realize this world existed. Different flavors, levels of tart and sweet, different apple varieties, and some even with hops.
Posted by LSUBoo
Knoxville, TN
Member since Mar 2006
104485 posts
Posted on 6/22/16 at 4:41 pm to
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I think the logic is probably that this is an extension of the craft beer boom.


Well, duh.

Same with mead... and LA does produce its own honey.
Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
80767 posts
Posted on 6/22/16 at 5:03 pm to
More widely available yet good is Crispin. I enjoy one over a few ice cubes.

Ace has a nice pear cider.

Both out of California.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
79862 posts
Posted on 6/22/16 at 5:20 pm to
helps to be in a place that grows apples.
Posted by Jax-Tiger
Vero Beach, FL
Member since Jan 2005
28240 posts
Posted on 6/22/16 at 5:30 pm to
We probably have a 1/2 dozen cideries in Portland. More out in the state. Every single tap room in Portland has multiple taps wasted on ciders. Every one. I know one taproom that has 12 taps - 6 for beer and 6 for cider. Their beer taps are good. I just wish the ratio was 10/2, and not 6/6.

I will start drinking ciders when I run out of new beers to try. So far, it hasn't happened, yet.
Posted by Matisyeezy
End of the bar, Drunk
Member since Feb 2012
16638 posts
Posted on 6/22/16 at 5:48 pm to
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Well, duh.

Same with mead... and LA does produce its own honey.



Okay, dick

I was trying to help Bug out without being rude. I know, that's weird for me. I try sometimes.

quote:

We probably have a 1/2 dozen cideries in Portland. More out in the state.


This was starting to happen right when I left North Carolina. I wouldn't say that it has taken off, but there are a few throughout the state. I'm largely nonplussed. Put it this way -- I'd order a beer I've never had before that I'm mildly interested in over a cider I've had before and know is great. I have no problem pulling one off the shelf at Stein's to try at my leisure, however.
Posted by Jax-Tiger
Vero Beach, FL
Member since Jan 2005
28240 posts
Posted on 6/22/16 at 5:58 pm to
We have beaucoup apples, so it makes sense. We also have beaucoup hops, so that makes sense, too. Then we tie it all together with the hipsters...
Posted by Zappas Stache
Utility Muffin Research Kitchen
Member since Apr 2009
43559 posts
Posted on 6/22/16 at 6:04 pm to
Bishop Cider Company here in Dallas has been at it for a couple of years and recently started bottling. I haven't had a lot of their stuff but I did have a sour cider they did and it was pretty good.
Posted by Tigertown in ATL
Georgia foothills
Member since Sep 2009
30431 posts
Posted on 6/24/16 at 4:11 pm to
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Ace has a nice pear cider.


Got a 6 of this

quote:

Sonoma Ciders out of Healdsburg make a terrific pear cider


Bought a 4 pack of their Apple.

Anyone heard of Jack's Hard Cider? That's another I can get here. From PA
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