Chicken and Sausage Gumbo Question

What ^ said.

Use hen.
Boil on low for hour or so.
Take out and let cool.

Put chicken back in few mins before serving.. It'll string out if overcooked.

My chicken meat is always cooked in some way whether fried ala Paul Prudhomme style, smoked, boiled or roasted. Just add it toward the end of simmering.

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This is where I cheat, Sam's roasted chickens, I remove all the meat, then use what's left to make a stock.

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Same here. Any grocery rotisserie chickens work.

SERVES 6 TO 8

This recipe is engineered for efficiency: Get the roux in the oven and then prep the remaining ingredients. A heavy, cast-iron Dutch oven yields the fastest oven roux. If a lightweight pot is all you’ve got, increase the oven time by 10 minutes. The chicken broth must be at room temperature to prevent lumps from forming. Fish sauce lends an essential savory quality. It’s sold in most grocery stores in the section with the Asian seasonings; if you can’t find it, see the box at bottom right for substitution information. Since the salt content of fish sauce varies among brands, taste the finished gumbo before seasoning with salt.

INGREDIENTS

3/4 cup plus 1 tablespoon all-purpose flour
1/2 cup vegetable oil
Salt and pepper
1 onion, chopped fine
1 green bell pepper, seeded and chopped
1 celery rib, chopped fine
5 garlic cloves, minced
1 teaspoon minced fresh thyme
1/4 teaspoon cayenne pepper
1 (14.5-ounce) can diced tomatoes, drained
3 3/4 cups low-sodium chicken broth, room temperature (see note)
1/4 cup fish sauce (see note)
4 bone in chicken thighs (about 2 pounds), skin and excess fat removed
8 ounces andouille sausage, halved lengthwise and sliced thin
2 cups frozen okra, thawed (optional)
2 pounds extra-large (21-25) shrimp, peeled and deveined
INSTRUCTIONS

1. MAKE ROUX Adjust oven rack to lowest position and heat oven to 350 degrees. Toast ¾ cup flour in Dutch oven on stovetop over medium heat, stirring constantly, until just beginning to brown, about 5 minutes. Off heat, whisk in oil until smooth. Cover, transfer pot to oven, and cook until mixture is deep brown and fragrant, about 45 minutes. (Roux can be refrigerated in -airtight -container for 1 week. To use, heat in Dutch oven over medium-high heat, whisking constantly, until just smoking, and continue with step 2.)

2. COOK AROMATICS Transfer Dutch oven to stovetop and whisk cooked roux to combine. Add onion, bell pepper, and celery and cook over medium heat, stirring frequently, until softened, about 10 minutes. Stir in remaining flour, garlic, thyme, and cayenne and cook until fragrant, about 1 minute. Add tomatoes and cook until dry, about 1 minute. Slowly whisk in broth and fish sauce until smooth. Season chicken with pepper. Add chicken and bring to boil.

3. SIMMER GUMBO Reduce heat to medium-low and simmer, covered, until chicken is tender, about 30 minutes. Skim fat and transfer chicken to plate. When chicken is cool enough to handle, cut into bite-size pieces and return to pot; discard bones.

4. FINISH GUMBO Stir in sausage and okra, if using, and simmer until heated through, about 5 minutes. Add shrimp and simmer until cooked through, about 5 minutes. Season with salt and pepper. Serve. (Gumbo can be refrigerated in airtight container for 1 day.)

MAKE AHEAD: Gumbo can be made through step 3 and refrigerated in an airtight container for 3 days. To serve, bring gumbo to simmer, covered, in Dutch oven. Remove lid and proceed with recipe as directed.

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I don't use "Fish Sauce or Thyme"...this is a great Gumbo!!!

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I like fish sauce...never knew it was essential to a chicken and sausage gumbo.

make it grilled and later put sausage and with leafy vegetables .

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Can I get away with boiling the entire chicken (meat on) for the broth and using the cooked meat in the gumbo?

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Yes. Then roast the bones and boil with stock for extra rich flavor. Remove bones before adding roux.

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(John Besh book)

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I have one of his cook books, and i tried his recipe for stuffed bellpeppers. It was awful. So i wouldn't rely on Besh's instructions to cook anything.

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calls for cooking the raw chicken in the pot after the roux is prepared.

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That's some backward arse shite, right there. When i have time, i like to smoke it for a couple hours, then boil it to make a stock. If i'm just doing a quick gumbo (relatively quick) i brown the chicken and use chicken broth.