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re: Anyone make their own cold brew?
Posted on 10/1/18 at 4:13 pm to puffulufogous
Posted on 10/1/18 at 4:13 pm to puffulufogous
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3-4 qts of cold brew is diluted 1 to 1 with water for hot coffee or milk for iced coffee.
So then why dilute it was my point? Is it not easier to say 1/2 lb per gallon of water? Would be a hell of a lot easier to cold brew a 1/2lb of beans over a full 1lb of beans also.
I've made small amounts of cold brew. Its fine. Its really not that hard to make hot coffee. If I want a iced coffee I make a single cup and let it cool down for 30 minutes then add milk/ cream and ice. Cold coffee.
I just don't have the fridge space and I don't need it on my counter to have a whole nother gallow pitcher chilling all the time. 2 gallons of cold brew would last me forever. To each their own though.
ETA: I love good coffee don't get me wrong. I think Americans drink too much dark roasted coffee and I appreciate a good brew of light roast. I just wasn't sure if there was something to the cold brew I was missing.
This post was edited on 10/1/18 at 4:16 pm
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Posted on 10/1/18 at 4:25 pm to baldona
quote:but what if i want a 1:0.5 dilution? or no Dilution at all?
o then why dilute it was my point? Is it not easier to say 1/2 lb per gallon of water?
quote:there is a big difference between cold/iced coffee and cold brewed coffee.
Its really not that hard to make hot coffee. If I want a iced coffee I make a single cup and let it cool down for 30 minutes then add milk/ cream and ice. Cold coffee.
quote:there lies the problem, you arent an OT baller.
I just don't have the fridge spac
quote:go to italy..... i was not a coffee snob until i went there and was amazed how great coffee should taste. It kinda pisses me off now.
I love good coffee don't get me wrong. I think Americans drink too much dark roasted coffee and I appreciate a good brew of light roast. I just wasn't sure if there was something to the cold brew I was missing.
This post was edited on 10/1/18 at 4:26 pm
Posted on 10/1/18 at 8:51 pm to puffulufogous
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Also cold brew is the only good choice for iced coffee.
I get a double shot of espresso over ice, and it makes for a damn fine iced coffee. No cream or milk, no sugar. Usually there's still ice left in the cup when I'm finished, a triple will melt all of the ice in a 16oz cup though.
I get strange looks when I order it, but what's new?
Posted on 10/1/18 at 10:16 pm to CarRamrod
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go to italy..... i was not a coffee snob until i went there and was amazed how great coffee should taste. It kinda pisses me off now.
Coffee is not rocket science. I agree with you generally Americans have a history of bad coffee but we also have good coffee plenty of places. Italy has a history of using $5,000 machines but they don’t do anything more than make it easier and look incredibly nice. It’s water at a certain temp and properly roasted and ground coffee beans.
A lot of things taste better on vacation. People say that Guinness tastes better in Ireland but most of those people have never had a properly poured pint in the USA of Guinness, it’s not that different.
I by no means want to rain on your parade I’m all about enjoying good food and learning why it’s good. I have enjoyed cold brew in the past, but I also think it’s a huge marketing gimmick. People are taking ground coffee and cold water and charging $10 for a pint of it.
Posted on 10/1/18 at 10:25 pm to CarRamrod
Never going to Italy before but growing up Italian. I have had my fair share of espresso and various espresso drinks. I have had coffee as well but prefer espresso. I am curious how going to Italy makes you want to try cold brew coffee? In all my years and reading about Italy, I never heard of Italy associated with cold brew. What am I missing?
Posted on 10/2/18 at 3:31 am to baldona
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If I want a iced coffee I make a single cup and let it cool down for 30 minutes then add milk/ cream and ice. Cold coffee.
This. Wtf is this bullshite cold brew y’all are talking about. Millennials ruin everything.
Posted on 10/2/18 at 5:03 am to baldona
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Coffee is not rocket science. I agree with you generally Americans have a history of bad coffee but we also have good coffee plenty of places
Yeah. I'd argue that the third wave coffee culture (much like American Weed culture) has pretty far surpassed other traditional cultures. Like with everything in America and within our capitalist society, we take stuff to the next level, mixing scientific geekery with artisan craftsmanship. That being said, Italian espresso culture, which involves a break/pause as part of the rejuvenating espresso routine, is far superior to the on-the-go energy jolt culture of American coffee consumerism.
Posted on 10/2/18 at 7:28 am to baldona
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I've made small amounts of cold brew. Its fine. Its really not that hard to make hot coffee. If I want a iced coffee I make a single cup and let it cool down for 30 minutes then add milk/ cream and ice. Cold coffee.
The flavor profile of cold brew and hot brewed coffee is different.
If it's not your thing, that's ok, but having a large batch of cold brew in the fridge is really convenient.
I make a batch that will last me all week. I don't have time in the mornings to make a cup of coffee and let it cool off for 30 minutes.
Posted on 10/2/18 at 7:44 am to baldona
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If I want a iced coffee I make a single cup and let it cool down for 30 minutes then add milk/ cream and ice. Cold coffee.
Iced coffee that comes from chilled hot coffee is not the same as cold brewed coffee. They taste totally different. I could tell them apart instantly, in a blindfolded taste test.
Posted on 10/2/18 at 8:05 am to CarRamrod
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go to italy..... i was not a coffee snob until i went there and was amazed how great coffee should taste. It kinda pisses me off now.
Italy does coffee well, as does France. And historically, they were vastly superior to what Americans were doing. However, as mentioned, the Third Wave has been incredible. At this point, Europe isn’t doing anything better than high end American shops.
Now, that’s not to say that their cafe culture isn’t superior, because frick me, it absolutely is. But the coffee in a vacuum? American shops have combined the science and art better than anything else I’ve experienced. If anyone is going to give us a run for our money, it’s probably going to be the Japanese. While I found much of their coffee to be utterly underwhelming, a couple of the high end shops I tried were doing special things. I’ll be curious to see if it catches on or is simply a trend that fades out.
This post was edited on 10/2/18 at 8:06 am
Posted on 10/2/18 at 8:19 am to tilco
quote:do you want to fricking fight? cause i will fight you. Me as a Xennial, the OG Milennial, will take you to the wood shed.
This. Wtf is this bullshite cold brew y’all are talking about. Millennials ruin everything.
Posted on 10/2/18 at 8:23 am to baldona
quote:the best shops in italy are using original machines that are decades old.
Italy has a history of using $5,000 machines but they don’t do anything more than make it easier and look incredibly nice. It’s water at a certain temp and properly roasted and ground coffee beans.
quote:i agree
A lot of things taste better on vacation
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I have enjoyed cold brew in the past, but I also think it’s a huge marketing gimmick.
but it is not..... it is a differnt taste of coffee. quote:well it does take 12-24 hours to make so it should cost more.... hence why i want to make it myself.
People are taking ground coffee and cold water and charging $10 for a pint of it.
I actually started my first batch with no equipment. I took a hop filter and filled it with me espresso beans.
Posted on 10/2/18 at 8:24 am to NOLATiger71
quote:Going to Italy opened my mind about how great coffee should taste. This makes me want to experience other flavors. Cold brew has nothing to do with Italy.
I am curious how going to Italy makes you want to try cold brew coffee? In all my years and reading about Italy, I never heard of Italy associated with cold brew. What am I missing?
Posted on 10/2/18 at 8:27 am to Joshjrn
quote:yea but there arent many American high end shops. A normal cafe on the street corner in Italy was as good or better than anything in BR or NOLA.
At this point, Europe isn’t doing anything better than high end American shops.
quote:this in Japan or here in the States? im interested in this.
If anyone is going to give us a run for our money, it’s probably going to be the Japanese. While I found much of their coffee to be utterly underwhelming, a couple of the high end shops I tried were doing special things. I’ll be curious to see if it catches on or is simply a trend that fades out.
Posted on 10/2/18 at 8:47 am to CarRamrod
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yea but there arent many American high end shops. A normal cafe on the street corner in Italy was as good or better than anything in BR or NOLA.
Disagree. Your average European street cafe doesn't hold a candle to the selection of quality beans that you see at a French Truck, Magpie, etc. I mean, illy is fine for what it is, but what it isn't is world class.
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this in Japan or here in the States? im interested in this.
I was referencing Japan. Their almost jarring attention to detail is ideal for something like coffee. Now, it's still overwhelmingly a tea culture, so there's a ton of utterly mediocre coffee there, but there are some boutique shops that will catch you off guard.
Posted on 10/2/18 at 8:58 am to Joshjrn
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Disagree. Your average European street cafe doesn't hold a candle to the selection of quality beans that you see at a French Truck, Magpie,
welli dont agree with you. I havent had French Truck but there is nothing special about magpie. quote:i agree. Traveling there is on my bucket list. I love the cuisine.
I was referencing Japan. Their almost jarring attention to detail is ideal for something like coffee. Now, it's still overwhelmingly a tea culture, so there's a ton of utterly mediocre coffee there, but there are some boutique shops that will catch you off guard.
This post was edited on 10/2/18 at 9:04 am
Posted on 10/2/18 at 9:03 am to CarRamrod
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welli dont agree with you. I havent had French Truck but there is nothing special about magpie.
What did you order?
Posted on 10/2/18 at 9:04 am to Joshjrn
ive had a variety of things.... and yes it is very good..... but it isnt beyond normal cafes in italy.
recommend me something and i try it tomorrow. Im more of a espresso, black coffee, and every once and a while a cappuccino/latte type of guy.
recommend me something and i try it tomorrow. Im more of a espresso, black coffee, and every once and a while a cappuccino/latte type of guy.
This post was edited on 10/2/18 at 9:06 am
Posted on 10/2/18 at 9:15 am to CarRamrod
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ive had a variety of things.... and yes it is very good..... but it isnt beyond normal cafes in italy.
recommend me something and i try it tomorrow. Im more of a espresso, black coffee, and every once and a while a cappuccino/latte type of guy.
To clarify, I'm not saying everything you get will blow away a good European cafe. In fact, a straight up order will likely be remarkably similar. What I have found that generally separates the two is the selection of beans available. If you walk into a standard European cafe, the offerings are mostly going to be exactly the same every time. At French Truck, I can choose between nearly a dozen different beans and blends, all fresh because they were roasted in house.
So ask if they have any new, interesting, limited beans on offer. Then get a simple preparation like a pour over or french press, or a simple espresso preparation like a cortado. Something that really lets the unique characteristics of the bean shine through.
Now, will it fill the space in your heart left by that little street cafe in Florence? Of course not. But it's probably objectively better coffee.
Posted on 10/2/18 at 10:44 am to CarRamrod
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recommend me something and i try it tomorrow. Im more of a espresso, black coffee, and every once and a while a cappuccino/latte type of guy.
I'm inferring from your preferences that you might like darker, more traditional roasts over lighter roasts. Third Wave is really into lighter roasts of a variety of beans, which brings out a very different flavor. Lots of florals, fruits, etc... so you might prefer traditional Italian/french style bean and roast selection.
And interesting and ironic sidenote is that lighter roasts actually have a higher concentration of caffeine, as not as much of it is burnt off in the roasting process. This is weird to people because they assume the bolder, more assertive flavors of darker roasts equate to more caffeine.
This post was edited on 10/2/18 at 10:46 am
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