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A new favorite beer list to ponder

Posted on 8/14/09 at 2:22 pm
Posted by BEAUXREGARD
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Posted on 8/14/09 at 2:22 pm
It was suggested that I make a new list of favorite beers and divide them by styles. I thought this an excellent idea. What I've done is made a list of 5 quality beers in a particular style and also listed an honorable mention. This will be an evolving list and feel free to add your own and make suggestions. The problem with making these lists is that inevitably, you leave something off that should be there. I will add more styles as time permits, but this should give some of you a better understanding of the styles along with some of the best offerings from said style. Enjoy.

Lagers: Spaten, Hofbrau, Paulaner, Augustiner, and Samuel Smith. Honorable mention goes to Staropramen. As you can see, the Germans pretty much own the lager category as far as I’m concerned. I’m sure there are some I’m forgetting that I might have liked better or at least as much, but this is an evolving list, so we’ll go with this for now.

Pilsners: Victory Prima Pils and everything else is a distant second. The rest of the list includes Pilsner Urquell, Paulaner Pils, Sam Adams Hallertau (though technically, this is an Imperial pilsner), and the Rogue Morimoto. Honorable mention goes to Warsteiner.

Brown Ales: This one is going to be tough. Believe it or not, I’m going to say the one at the top of my list right now is the NOLA Brown Ale. After that, the list looks like this: Samuel Smith Nut Brown Ale, Lazy Magnolia Southern Pecan (it’s really a brown ale no matter what they tell you), Legends Brown, and Terrapin India Brown. Honorable mention goes to Rogue’s Hazelnut Brown.

Belgian Triples: I think it’s widely known that I’m a Westmalle guy and their triple is no exception. This heads my list. And, as trite as this might sound, I really like the Chimay. So, that’s two trappist triples down, four to go. I know a lot of people don’t like this one, but I’m a big fan of the Triple Karmeleit. This list wouldn’t be complete with a La Fin Du Monde and a Victory Golden Monkey. Honorable mention goes to St. Bernardus triple.

Belgian Dubbels: Again, Westmalle leads the way. But their dubbel is easily in my top 5 beers of all time. Again, Chimay makes another strong showing. After that, we have Ommegang, Brother Thelonious, and Val Dieu. I would also like to add here that the one Belgian beer not listed in either of these categories is the Orval. It’s a Belgian Ale and since I’m not going to make that a category, I wanted it known that this is an outstanding beer and deserves mention. It’s also a Trappist and probably the most expensive of the lot.

Stouts: Sierra Nevada Stout, Rogue Chocolate Stout (even though this would probably be a sub-category), Lazy Magnolia Jefferson Stout, Sam Smith Oatmeal Stout (again, sub-category) and Beamish. Honorable mention to Guinness because they’re Guinness.

IPA: There are so many of these things flooding the market now, it makes my head spin. But, a good place to start would be these: Stone IPA, Victory HopDevil, Dogfish Head 90 Minute, Houblon Chouffe Belgian IPA, and Bear Republic Racer 5. Honorable mention to Samuel Smith IPA

Porters: This category was actually tougher than I thought because after I started looking back, I realized that I have had more porters than I thought. I really like the style. A lot of people swear them off when it gets hot, but I drink them straight through because usually, the abv is fairly manageable, even though the beer itself is a little heavier. But anyway, in no particular order, here goes:
Meantime London Porter, Fullers London Porter, and Samuel Smith Taddy Porter. These are all English porters and much like the Germans with lagers, the Brits really do porters better than anyone else. After that, the Stone Smoked Porter and the Finnish Sinebrychoff porter round out the top 5. Honorable mention goes to Anchor Steam Porter.

Hefeweizens: If there's one thing Germans know more about than lagers and invading France, it's wheat beers. They invented the style as we know it today. I've never been a huge fan of the hefeweizen, but I've come to appreciate it more over the last few years. They are perfect for those hot summer days and the alcohol content of wheat beers makes them perfect for multiple quaffs. SO, here are my top hefe's: Paulaner, Tucher, Weihenstephaner, Kapuziner, and Franziskaner. Honorable mention goes to Rogue and their Honey Orange. I figured there needed to be at least one on the list that wasn't German.
Posted by tigermojo
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Posted on 8/14/09 at 3:03 pm to
You need a Russian Imperial Stout category as well. Old Rasputin and Victory Storm King deserve at least some love.
Posted by BEAUXREGARD
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Posted on 8/14/09 at 3:18 pm to
See. That's what I'm talking about. How I left off Old Rasputin is almost unforgiveable.
Posted by tigermojo
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Posted on 8/14/09 at 3:32 pm to
Not unforgiveable. You provided a great list in a short time. Plus, it's reminded me I need to break out of the stout/IPA pattern I'm currently in.

Re: Meantime London Porter, I found a local retailer. I'm trying to decide if I'm going to drive accross the metroplex to pick it up. It's that good?
Posted by BEAUXREGARD
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Posted on 8/14/09 at 6:51 pm to
If you're a porter fan, yes.
Posted by BEAUXREGARD
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Posted on 8/14/09 at 7:15 pm to
The wife wants me to add Grimbergen to the dubbel category even though I don't think it rates a top 20 status. She did, however, make a good point about the IPA's. Technically, I think it's a double IPA, but the Stone Arrogant Bastard defintely deserves mention.
Posted by lynxcat
Member since Jan 2008
24963 posts
Posted on 8/14/09 at 7:43 pm to
In the Belgian category, where do Hoegarden, Leffe (Blonde and Bruin), and DeKonnick fit into your rankings?

I'm trying to remember all the others than I tried when I was in Belgium. Personally, I hated Westmalle.

My favorite beer I had while I was there was Dekonnick's Triple--excellent beer.

I would have to look up a Belgian beer list to recognize the other names of all the beers I had while there.

I remember Chimay being a very good beer, so I agree with its listing.

The KWAK was an interesting beer--but most people get it just because it has the coolest glass of probably any beer in the world.
Posted by BEAUXREGARD
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Member since Jul 2005
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Posted on 8/14/09 at 8:02 pm to
I agree that the Kwak is probably bought for the glass it's served in. As far as Belgian beer goes, it doesn't make my top 50. I appreciate Hoegaarden for that fact that they saved the Belgian witte style as we know it today. They were basically the last people in the world brewing witte beers before American craft brewers picked up on it and brought the style back into the mainstream. It's still a good beer, but there are better ones. Personally, ny favorite is the Ommegang witte. It's nice to meet a fellow traveler to Belgium. It's one of my favorite trips to date and I will go back.
Posted by lynxcat
Member since Jan 2008
24963 posts
Posted on 8/14/09 at 8:09 pm to
I was there for over a month for a study abroad so I was able to experience tons of differen Belgian brews. I typically found most of them pretty good, but some definitely stood out more than others.

On another note, I was able to visit two breweries during my trip: DeKonnick and ABInbev. It is a pretty rare opportunity to go visit those types of places (I went to champagne houses as well--not sure you drink in as much as beer).
Posted by BEAUXREGARD
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Posted on 8/14/09 at 8:30 pm to
That is awesome. We spent three days in Brussels, two days in Bruges, two days in Antwerp, and took the train to Amsterdam for a day. The one place I absolutely have to go back to is Bruges. We hooked up with some locals who took us to the non tourist spots and it was fricking outstanding. The city itself is worth the trip, but the local spots make it an unforgetable trip. The night we spent at DeGarre in Bruges was worth the cost of the whole trip.
Posted by CharleyLake
Member since Oct 2006
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Posted on 8/15/09 at 10:32 am to
Thanks for this list. When you get time please add lists of German Hefe-Weizens, American Craft wheats, American Lagers, and Kolsch style. (Gaffel is my go-to beverage this summer).
Posted by BEAUXREGARD
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Posted on 8/15/09 at 2:05 pm to
Right off the top of my head, I can tell you my two favorite German hefe's and the sub category Dunkel. The Paulaner and Tucher wheats are as good as they come. The Franziskaner dunkel is my go to, old reliable dunkel. As far as the Kolsch goes, I've not been terribly impressed by many of them, but the Gaffel is the best of the lot among the ones I've had and a really good beer. I'll put together the rest of the list soon.
Posted by Chicken
Jackassistan
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Posted on 8/16/09 at 9:47 pm to
Nice list, BEAUX.

Posted by s14suspense
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2007
15458 posts
Posted on 8/17/09 at 6:17 am to
Beaux, I had the Brooklyn Lager over the weekend. It was the best lager I have ever tried. I'll have to try some of their other beer when I see it in the stores. Good suggestion
Posted by Dallas Tiger
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Member since Mar 2006
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Posted on 8/17/09 at 9:46 am to
quote:

IPA:


Dogfish head is way overated IMO and is more a belgian triple thats been hopped up.

My list: Lagunitas IPA, Full Sail IPA, Rogue Imperial, Hop Rod Rye, Henry Weinhard IPA, Brew Dog Punk IPA, Live Oak IPA (yes I found a good Texas IPA", Racer 5
Posted by mmill32
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Member since Jul 2005
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Posted on 8/17/09 at 9:59 am to
Nice list Beaux.. whenever you get the chance, can you compile a pale ale category. Thanks
Posted by la tigra
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Posted on 8/17/09 at 10:19 am to
What about Bocks and Ambers?
Posted by Dallas Tiger
Dallas
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15080 posts
Posted on 8/17/09 at 10:49 am to
quote:

In the Belgian category, where do Hoegarden, Leffe (Blonde and Bruin), and DeKonnick fit into your rankings?


Those are all second rate belgian beers. I like a DeKonnick every now and then but it and Leffe Blonde really doesn't have any complexity. I did have some Leffe Dubbels in Amsterdam recently and they were good. But again, compared to a Westmalle Dubbel, they didn't stand up.
Posted by tigermojo
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Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 8/17/09 at 11:32 am to
I had a Westmalle Dubbel this weekend that had a pronounced grape taste. This was only my second one ever, but I didn't recall the first one having that flavor. It was almost like a port.

I had teh little woman taste it too for confirmation. Were my taste buds off kilter, or is that the expected dominate note?
Posted by cubsgrace
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2007
1994 posts
Posted on 8/17/09 at 11:32 am to
Maredsous 8 Dubbel is my favorite!
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