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re: Trump lead tops 1,491,000 in Florida (updated)
Posted on 11/5/24 at 11:47 am to TideCPA
Posted on 11/5/24 at 11:47 am to TideCPA
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Down to 20.07%. Not going to be a huge election day gap at the rate things are going the last hour or two.
I can't find what the election day gap was in 2016 or 2020 - only the total gap - and the GOP is doing 12 points better than it did in 2016 by that metric.
I don't see any numbers that could let me determine the context for the current election day numbers.
Posted on 11/5/24 at 11:48 am to TideSaint
That’s the D vote percentage.
The other number is the R-D difference.
The other number is the R-D difference.
Posted on 11/5/24 at 11:49 am to Scruffy
quote:It's because I'm focused on ED only votes, as that could be predictive in other states with early voting. Rs opened up an early morning gap there, but Ds have been narrowing the gap (on a proportional basis). The total vote gap is still growing, but the R lead over D on a percentage basis (for today only) is decreasing.
I’m confused by the numbers on that site.
The day of voting percentage declines while the total vote percentage rises along with the spread between R and D.
Posted on 11/5/24 at 11:50 am to Tesla
Changing the data to “all votes” at the bottom again…. Trump is 12 percent up from this time in.. not 2020.. 12 percent higher in turnout from 2016.
Posted on 11/5/24 at 11:50 am to armtackledawg
quote:The site here shows it, from Florida's data.
I don't see any numbers that could let me determine the context for the current election day numbers.
ED vote doesn't matter for Florida itself. It's going to Trump and likely in margins in excess of polling averages. ED vote in Florida, however, can tell us how much cannibalization is going on in the R camp in states with early voting. That trend can be predictive.
Posted on 11/5/24 at 11:51 am to TideCPA
So then I would assume as long as the numbers are still trending it's not possible to say, unless they surpass the 20% or 10% thresholds?
Vacillating anywhere in the middle near 15% is just uncertainly?
(Not trying to hold you to this, just interested in following any potential indicators out of pure curiosity.)
Vacillating anywhere in the middle near 15% is just uncertainly?
(Not trying to hold you to this, just interested in following any potential indicators out of pure curiosity.)
Posted on 11/5/24 at 11:52 am to Tesla
Looks like Trump supporters are getting out the vote in Jax. Normally the numbers for Jax lean democrat. He’s gonna blow out Fl but just in case the folks in the panhandle always come thru for Trump. 
Posted on 11/5/24 at 11:53 am to paperwasp
The thresholds will be determined by independent vote.
Trump reaches 58% in Florida its game over.
Trump reaches 58% in Florida its game over.
Posted on 11/5/24 at 11:54 am to TideCPA
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ED vote doesn't matter for Florida itself. It's going to Trump and likely in margins in excess of polling averages. ED vote in Florida, however, can tell us how much cannibalization is going on in the R camp in states with early voting. That trend can be predictive.
Right, but I see that the registered GOP is outpacing the Dems by 19.7% on ED, which is a lot. Is there any way to find the final number for 2016 or 2020 for election day only. In other words, is the GOP outpacing the Dems' election day vote by more or less than those past years?
Posted on 11/5/24 at 11:54 am to paperwasp
quote:That's correct. Conventional thought is that the gap will narrow somewhat between now and 5pm ET, at which time Rs will probably open it up a bit. If it starts getting down close to 10% before 5pm, we're probably in for a long night.
So then I would assume as long as the numbers are still trending it's not possible to say, unless they surpass the 20% or 10% thresholds?
Vacillating anywhere in the middle near 15% is just uncertainly?
(Not trying to hold you to this, just interested in following any potential indicators out of pure curiosity.)
Posted on 11/5/24 at 11:59 am to TideCPA
3.0 of 4.4 million registered democrats have voted in Florida. (70%)
4.1 of 5.4 million registered republicans have voted (76%)
2.1 of 3.6 million no party listed have voted (59%)
Imo, all of this points to a big win for Trump in Florida.
If 5% of votes switch from republican and democrat and vice versa.. Harris would have to win about 75% of the votes with no party listed. That isn't going to happen.
I think the margin ends up being north of 7%, perhaps 10%+
4.1 of 5.4 million registered republicans have voted (76%)
2.1 of 3.6 million no party listed have voted (59%)
Imo, all of this points to a big win for Trump in Florida.
If 5% of votes switch from republican and democrat and vice versa.. Harris would have to win about 75% of the votes with no party listed. That isn't going to happen.
I think the margin ends up being north of 7%, perhaps 10%+
This post was edited on 11/5/24 at 12:08 pm
Posted on 11/5/24 at 11:59 am to TideCPA
That's my understanding .. a weaker ED margin in Florida could mean that Republicans did in fact cannibalize their ED wave by voting early
Of course it's all speculation because Florida is the only state that updates their counts as they come in. Every other state is stuck in 1824
Of course it's all speculation because Florida is the only state that updates their counts as they come in. Every other state is stuck in 1824
This post was edited on 11/5/24 at 12:01 pm
Posted on 11/5/24 at 12:02 pm to jmcwhrter
quote:100%, but data-based speculation is all I've got until actual numbers start rolling in tonight.
That's my understanding .. a weaker ED margin in Florida could mean that Republicans did in fact cannibalize their ED wave by voting early
Of course it's all speculation because Florida is the only state that updates their counts as they come in. Every other state is stuck in 1824
Posted on 11/5/24 at 12:04 pm to Tesla
I think some are being way to literal about the data republican tweet.
The idea is AROUND a 20% ED advantage could be a great landslide level sign for R turnout throughout the swing states.
It also clearly says that "Projecting Florida's R turnout onto other states is of limited use"
I would also say that it seems pretty important to me that the fact that R's had already turned out more than 90% of the state's total D registration before noon means that D's are likely to gain some ground through the afternoon, but the R's have absolutely mobilized their electorate, which is the most important thing by far.
If the D's swarm through the day and it gets below 15% ED advantage their might be a reason to worry, but 16-17+ should be a solid sign overall especially with the huge overall turnout by Rs
The idea is AROUND a 20% ED advantage could be a great landslide level sign for R turnout throughout the swing states.
It also clearly says that "Projecting Florida's R turnout onto other states is of limited use"
I would also say that it seems pretty important to me that the fact that R's had already turned out more than 90% of the state's total D registration before noon means that D's are likely to gain some ground through the afternoon, but the R's have absolutely mobilized their electorate, which is the most important thing by far.
If the D's swarm through the day and it gets below 15% ED advantage their might be a reason to worry, but 16-17+ should be a solid sign overall especially with the huge overall turnout by Rs
Posted on 11/5/24 at 12:06 pm to TideCPA
quote:
data-based speculation is all I've got

Posted on 11/5/24 at 12:06 pm to adamau
quote:All correct, and other Florida data points appear to point toward a great overall environment for R hopes. But I've been pretty interested in trying to ascertain the amount of ED cannibalism that early voting will have in other states. Think we're seeing some of that play out in Nevada.
I think some are being way to literal about the data republican tweet.
The idea is AROUND a 20% ED advantage could be a great landslide level sign for R turnout throughout the swing states.
It also clearly says that "Projecting Florida's R turnout onto other states is of limited use"
I would also say that it seems pretty important to me that the fact that R's had already turned out more than 90% of the state's total D registration before noon means that D's are likely to gain some ground through the afternoon, but the R's have absolutely mobilized their electorate, which is the most important thing by far.
Posted on 11/5/24 at 12:08 pm to Granola
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Florida is turning out to be the most MAGA state in the union
They were all invited to the party a Mar a Lago.
Posted on 11/5/24 at 12:09 pm to Tesla
As much as running up the score is fun, I hope this trend holds in other states.
Posted on 11/5/24 at 12:13 pm to Tesla
Must be a childless cat lady shortage in Florida?
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