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re: How long will it take him to fire Jack Smith?

Posted on 11/6/24 at 6:46 am to
Posted by Mudge87
NOLA
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Posted on 11/6/24 at 6:46 am to
Can he even legally fire Smith? Why not just instruct his new AG to dismiss the cases?
Posted by MemphisGuy
Germantown, TN
Member since Nov 2023
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Posted on 11/6/24 at 6:46 am to
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I said this a while back, too.
Posted by ItNeverRains
Offugeaux
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Posted on 11/6/24 at 6:47 am to
When you say fire, you mean arrest? He has to be water boarded at GITMO. No other options.
Posted by G I Jeaux
off duty
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2371 posts
Posted on 11/6/24 at 6:47 am to
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give the media




The msm does not need to be given anything, they will make up everything they want.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 11/6/24 at 6:48 am to
Today ain't the day to try to come at me, considering how right I was about all of this for months.
Posted by ItNeverRains
Offugeaux
Member since Oct 2007
28166 posts
Posted on 11/6/24 at 6:50 am to
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Don't want to repeat the PR disaster that was his early interactions with Comey, and give the media a "Constitutional crisis" theme they can use without even dipping into dishonesty.


Yeah frick all that. He is an enemy of the state. Arrest him and water board him until he spills who he answers to.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 11/6/24 at 6:51 am to
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Arrest him and water board him until he spills who he answers to.


Intelligent strategy that I'm sure would be fruitful and popular...


Posted by Vacherie Saint
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Posted on 11/6/24 at 6:51 am to
Posted by I20goon
about 7mi down a dirt road
Member since Aug 2013
17689 posts
Posted on 11/6/24 at 6:51 am to
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Don't want to repeat the PR disaster that was his early interactions with Comey, and give the media a "Constitutional crisis" theme they can use without even dipping into dishonesty.
agreed. They will bait him into a true/real constitutional crisis.

BUT, worth noting, they're going to invent one (PR wise) anyway. If he farts upwind they will call that a constitutional crisis.

AND, they already have one waiting- Merchan and Bragg. That's why the sentencing was delayed.

"Constitutional Crisis" is unavoidable. Have to attack it. It's happening one way or the other, and that's before the Dim governors in MI and PA orchestrate a certification crisis.
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Can he even legally fire Smith? Why not just instruct his new AG to dismiss the cases?
It won't come to trial before inauguration so AG will do just that. And they'll scream constitutional crisis on that (it isn't, it is quite clear cut). That's the mistake he made in 2016 that SFP is referring to. He played nice and let the career officials do their job honorably. But they aren't honorable. They fabricated a pretext that led to an independent counsel, which lead to two impeachments.

He needs to attack them, because they are damn sure going to attack him. Bragg and Smith aren't going to stop. They will be the constitutional crisis SFP says he needs to try and avoid. There's no avoiding it. The fire is already incoming.
This post was edited on 11/6/24 at 6:58 am
Posted by RCDfan1950
United States
Member since Feb 2007
37305 posts
Posted on 11/6/24 at 6:55 am to
It all depends on how aggressive the Trump Adm. is re pursuing a RICO-based investigation of the whole conspiratorial debacle. The evidence is there, but will be viewed from a Subjective pov, and we know what Trump has promised and what Bannon wants, but the question then becomes the SOP for Republican 'bipartisanship'.

Trump can focus on policy, or cleaning up the corruption, but focusing on the later will impede the former. Congress is close, and votes will be required for passage of critical legislation.

In a fair system, Smith should be where he and his ilk put the Jan. 6 people, but we know it ain't fair. A big battle was won but the 'war' continues.
Posted by ItNeverRains
Offugeaux
Member since Oct 2007
28166 posts
Posted on 11/6/24 at 7:07 am to
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Intelligent strategy that I'm sure would be fruitful and popular...


So you dont like lawfare now? That was fast.
Posted by MemphisGuy
Germantown, TN
Member since Nov 2023
10920 posts
Posted on 11/6/24 at 7:09 am to
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Today ain't the day to try to come at me, considering how right I was about all of this for months.
Posted by texas tortilla
houston
Member since Dec 2015
3342 posts
Posted on 11/6/24 at 7:16 am to
how jack smith was able to run grand juries out of washington for his mar a lago case is beyond me, congress needs to impeach some federal judges in DC. yes i'm thinking of you tanya chutkan.
Posted by I20goon
about 7mi down a dirt road
Member since Aug 2013
17689 posts
Posted on 11/6/24 at 7:18 am to
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So you dont like lawfare now? That was fast.
lol.

And I will point on little technicality out that doesn't get mentioned often.

The independent counsel statute expired. Both Smith is and Mueller was special counsels.

The idea of firing a special counsel is not a constitutional crisis. It is wholly made up. It is not real. Trump could have fired Mueller and if Rosenstein refused (because Sessions recused) he could fire him and move on to the next guy. And then there's the fact that Smith did not have sanction from Senate making his position even more precarious (curious, it is a Dem controlled Senate, hmmmm).

Trump will not make the same mistake twice. I'm saying he needs to go further and seek investigation and if any, by any stretch of legal imagination, a charge could be produced to prosecute Smith.

Firing an independent counsel is a constitutional crisis because it was under laws passed by both houses.
Posted by Prettyboy Floyd
Pensacola, Florida
Member since Dec 2013
16387 posts
Posted on 11/6/24 at 7:21 am to
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Trump has to be very careful how he handles this.


No,

No frick he does not.


LAWFARE IS OVER

Told you this months ago.

FAFO
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
452018 posts
Posted on 11/6/24 at 7:22 am to
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So you dont like lawfare now?


Still waiting on a definition to judge it
Posted by ItNeverRains
Offugeaux
Member since Oct 2007
28166 posts
Posted on 11/6/24 at 7:29 am to
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Still waiting on a definition to judge it


Spending millions of tax dollars on victimless process crimes to target your political enemies.
Posted by DMAN1968
Member since Apr 2019
11850 posts
Posted on 11/6/24 at 7:38 am to
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Still waiting on a definition to judge it

quote:

lawfare
noun [ U ]
us /'l??.fer/ uk /'l??.fe?r/

The use of legal action to cause problems for an opponent:
Posted by tigeraddict
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2007
13415 posts
Posted on 11/6/24 at 7:41 am to
It should be over now. what better "jury or your peers" then have a majority of the US voting population "exonerate" you
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