Page 1
Page 1
Started By
Message

Xi Biden rescinds Trump gig-worker rule

Posted on 5/5/21 at 9:03 am
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
73417 posts
Posted on 5/5/21 at 9:03 am
The Labor Department on Wednesday announced the withdrawal of the Trump-era independent contractor rule that allowed businesses to classify workers as independent contractors as opposed to employees on Wednesday.

The administration’s move, effective Thursday, allows for workers considered ‘gig workers’ to have minimum wage and overtime compensation protections under the Fair Labor Standards Act (FLSA). Employee classification has major implications for companies like Uber, Lyft, and DoorDash, which depend on gig workers.

Walsh last week said that “in a lot of cases” gig workers should be full employees rather than independent contractors, which marked the first time he had weighed in on the debate over the classification of these workers.

"We are looking at it but in a lot of cases gig workers should be classified as employees," Walsh said in an interview with Reuters.

A spokesperson for the Labor Department confirmed his comments and elaborated by saying: “The Secretary was reiterating that misclassification is a pervasive issue that impacts both the economy and workers. Worker protections under federal law create a safety net of security and benefits that provide ladders of opportunity into the middle class. This safety net should be further strengthened.” LINK
Posted by jlovel7
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2014
21305 posts
Posted on 5/5/21 at 9:06 am to
I haven't used an uber in maybe over a year. Don't really see the need to anytime soon either.

Demand for them has to be pretty low compared to what they had pre covid and now you're going to raise the cost of their service?

Yikes.

ETA: the whole point of gig work is the flexibility tradeoff for the stability of a full time job. You can't make every job a robust full time deal with full benefits. It literally advertises itself as a side hustle.
This post was edited on 5/5/21 at 9:08 am
Posted by fatboydave
Fat boy land
Member since Aug 2004
17979 posts
Posted on 5/5/21 at 9:06 am to
Make employers pay more benefits while killing Uber and Lyft. MOAR trains and busses powered by fairy dust!
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
98468 posts
Posted on 5/5/21 at 9:14 am to
I bet Uber and lyft (company and employees) donated overwhelmingly to Biden
Posted by ninthward
Boston, MA
Member since May 2007
20374 posts
Posted on 5/5/21 at 9:15 am to
moar taxes
Posted by wutangfinancial
Treasure Valley
Member since Sep 2015
11073 posts
Posted on 5/5/21 at 9:21 am to
This is a double whammy of fricking over the low income drivers and the company at the same time. They won't be able to take advantage of tax laws anymore. Typically these drivers make $9,999/max for each service and the government has no ability to tax them because they are recognized as payment processors by the IRS.

These companies were always doomed to fail because you can't scale them but this is going to cause big problems for them on top of that.
Posted by BayBengal9
Bay St. Louis, MS
Member since Nov 2019
4171 posts
Posted on 5/5/21 at 10:08 am to
If just one Biden worker becomes homeless because of this rule change, it will be worth it.
Posted by lsuoilengr
Member since Aug 2008
4766 posts
Posted on 5/5/21 at 10:14 am to
And their minimum wage is 15$/hr right? Probably won’t work
Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
80094 posts
Posted on 5/5/21 at 10:17 am to
So I’m assuming this means that the likes of Uber/Lyft and other companies like those will have to offer health insurance now?
Posted by GFunk
Denham Springs
Member since Feb 2011
14966 posts
Posted on 5/5/21 at 10:27 am to
The goal is to protect legacy industries that are far more likely to have entrenched unionization.

Gig economy workers-ride share, food delivery, etc-are useless to worker Unions. They make less than a typical hourly employee. So instead of adapting or changing with the times, the Unions are using their political leaders and their influence to choke off innovation and market disruption to their methods of continued power and influence in the marketplace.

It’s funny, but liberal ideaology is such that they used to protect the worker. But now they are only interested in protecting the monolithic, conservative, outdated and outmoded institutions of the past that aren’t reflective of a modern economy.

They will destroy innovation and market disruption worse than anything a conservative free market type ever thought of in order to protect an institution that supports its worldview.

Wolves in sheep’s clothing.
Posted by chalmetteowl
Chalmette
Member since Jan 2008
47476 posts
Posted on 5/5/21 at 11:11 am to
quote:

The Labor Department on Wednesday announced the withdrawal of the Trump-era independent contractor rule that allowed businesses to classify workers as independent contractors as opposed to employees on Wednesday


This. I can’t be forced to wear a mask in my own car driving an Uber and then have them claim I’m an “independent contractor”
Posted by Tantal
Member since Sep 2012
13873 posts
Posted on 5/5/21 at 11:16 am to
quote:

This. I can’t be forced to wear a mask in my own car driving an Uber and then have them claim I’m an “independent contractor”

bullshite. I have a side job of providing security at a local church. I'm an independent contractor and get a 10-99 every year. Still had to wear a mask inside the church.
Posted by 4TheLoveLSU
North Carolina
Member since Oct 2019
2317 posts
Posted on 5/5/21 at 11:19 am to
This will just make more people lose jobs and work. Dumbass move again.....
Posted by gsvar2004
Member since Nov 2007
7951 posts
Posted on 5/5/21 at 11:23 am to
its something OMB did that means its bad. it has to be reversed
Posted by Rex Feral
Athens
Member since Jan 2014
11261 posts
Posted on 5/5/21 at 11:24 am to
Uber and Lyft drivers don't make scratch to begin with after they deduct their miles driven. Now that they're W2 employees, they can't deduct their mileage. So now, they pay taxes on the money they bring in, but can't take a deduction for what it cost to generate their income.

This doesn't sound very worker friendly. It appears the Dims want it both ways. Take from the means of production and then take from the working class. Where have I seen this before in history?
Posted by chalmetteowl
Chalmette
Member since Jan 2008
47476 posts
Posted on 5/5/21 at 11:25 am to
quote:

bullshite. I have a side job of providing security at a local church. I'm an independent contractor and get a 10-99 every year. Still had to wear a mask inside the church
that’s the church’s rule though

My rule in my own car for everybody was that no masks are required. Uber tried to dictate how I did my job beyond the “point A to point B” part.
This post was edited on 5/5/21 at 11:33 am
Posted by PaperTiger
Ruston, LA
Member since Feb 2015
22932 posts
Posted on 5/5/21 at 11:25 am to
Probably workers comp too
Posted by TrueTiger
Chicken's most valuable
Member since Sep 2004
67656 posts
Posted on 5/5/21 at 11:26 am to
Regulations are hidden taxes.

These regulations will bring more cost to all and will cost jobs.
first pageprev pagePage 1 of 1Next pagelast page
refresh

Back to top
logoFollow TigerDroppings for LSU Football News
Follow us on Twitter, Facebook and Instagram to get the latest updates on LSU Football and Recruiting.

FacebookTwitterInstagram