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Xi Biden rescinds Trump gig-worker rule
Posted on 5/5/21 at 9:03 am
Posted on 5/5/21 at 9:03 am
The Labor Department on Wednesday announced the withdrawal of the Trump-era independent contractor rule that allowed businesses to classify workers as independent contractors as opposed to employees on Wednesday.
The administration’s move, effective Thursday, allows for workers considered ‘gig workers’ to have minimum wage and overtime compensation protections under the Fair Labor Standards Act (FLSA). Employee classification has major implications for companies like Uber, Lyft, and DoorDash, which depend on gig workers.
Walsh last week said that “in a lot of cases” gig workers should be full employees rather than independent contractors, which marked the first time he had weighed in on the debate over the classification of these workers.
"We are looking at it but in a lot of cases gig workers should be classified as employees," Walsh said in an interview with Reuters.
A spokesperson for the Labor Department confirmed his comments and elaborated by saying: “The Secretary was reiterating that misclassification is a pervasive issue that impacts both the economy and workers. Worker protections under federal law create a safety net of security and benefits that provide ladders of opportunity into the middle class. This safety net should be further strengthened.” LINK
The administration’s move, effective Thursday, allows for workers considered ‘gig workers’ to have minimum wage and overtime compensation protections under the Fair Labor Standards Act (FLSA). Employee classification has major implications for companies like Uber, Lyft, and DoorDash, which depend on gig workers.
Walsh last week said that “in a lot of cases” gig workers should be full employees rather than independent contractors, which marked the first time he had weighed in on the debate over the classification of these workers.
"We are looking at it but in a lot of cases gig workers should be classified as employees," Walsh said in an interview with Reuters.
A spokesperson for the Labor Department confirmed his comments and elaborated by saying: “The Secretary was reiterating that misclassification is a pervasive issue that impacts both the economy and workers. Worker protections under federal law create a safety net of security and benefits that provide ladders of opportunity into the middle class. This safety net should be further strengthened.” LINK
Posted on 5/5/21 at 9:06 am to Jbird
I haven't used an uber in maybe over a year. Don't really see the need to anytime soon either.
Demand for them has to be pretty low compared to what they had pre covid and now you're going to raise the cost of their service?
Yikes.
ETA: the whole point of gig work is the flexibility tradeoff for the stability of a full time job. You can't make every job a robust full time deal with full benefits. It literally advertises itself as a side hustle.
Demand for them has to be pretty low compared to what they had pre covid and now you're going to raise the cost of their service?
Yikes.
ETA: the whole point of gig work is the flexibility tradeoff for the stability of a full time job. You can't make every job a robust full time deal with full benefits. It literally advertises itself as a side hustle.
This post was edited on 5/5/21 at 9:08 am
Posted on 5/5/21 at 9:06 am to Jbird
Make employers pay more benefits while killing Uber and Lyft. MOAR trains and busses powered by fairy dust!
Posted on 5/5/21 at 9:14 am to Jbird
I bet Uber and lyft (company and employees) donated overwhelmingly to Biden
Posted on 5/5/21 at 9:21 am to fatboydave
This is a double whammy of fricking over the low income drivers and the company at the same time. They won't be able to take advantage of tax laws anymore. Typically these drivers make $9,999/max for each service and the government has no ability to tax them because they are recognized as payment processors by the IRS.
These companies were always doomed to fail because you can't scale them but this is going to cause big problems for them on top of that.
These companies were always doomed to fail because you can't scale them but this is going to cause big problems for them on top of that.
Posted on 5/5/21 at 10:08 am to Jbird
If just one Biden worker becomes homeless because of this rule change, it will be worth it.
Posted on 5/5/21 at 10:14 am to BayBengal9
And their minimum wage is 15$/hr right? Probably won’t work
Posted on 5/5/21 at 10:17 am to Jbird
So I’m assuming this means that the likes of Uber/Lyft and other companies like those will have to offer health insurance now?
Posted on 5/5/21 at 10:27 am to Lsut81
The goal is to protect legacy industries that are far more likely to have entrenched unionization.
Gig economy workers-ride share, food delivery, etc-are useless to worker Unions. They make less than a typical hourly employee. So instead of adapting or changing with the times, the Unions are using their political leaders and their influence to choke off innovation and market disruption to their methods of continued power and influence in the marketplace.
It’s funny, but liberal ideaology is such that they used to protect the worker. But now they are only interested in protecting the monolithic, conservative, outdated and outmoded institutions of the past that aren’t reflective of a modern economy.
They will destroy innovation and market disruption worse than anything a conservative free market type ever thought of in order to protect an institution that supports its worldview.
Wolves in sheep’s clothing.
Gig economy workers-ride share, food delivery, etc-are useless to worker Unions. They make less than a typical hourly employee. So instead of adapting or changing with the times, the Unions are using their political leaders and their influence to choke off innovation and market disruption to their methods of continued power and influence in the marketplace.
It’s funny, but liberal ideaology is such that they used to protect the worker. But now they are only interested in protecting the monolithic, conservative, outdated and outmoded institutions of the past that aren’t reflective of a modern economy.
They will destroy innovation and market disruption worse than anything a conservative free market type ever thought of in order to protect an institution that supports its worldview.
Wolves in sheep’s clothing.
Posted on 5/5/21 at 11:11 am to Jbird
quote:
The Labor Department on Wednesday announced the withdrawal of the Trump-era independent contractor rule that allowed businesses to classify workers as independent contractors as opposed to employees on Wednesday
This. I can’t be forced to wear a mask in my own car driving an Uber and then have them claim I’m an “independent contractor”
Posted on 5/5/21 at 11:16 am to chalmetteowl
quote:
This. I can’t be forced to wear a mask in my own car driving an Uber and then have them claim I’m an “independent contractor”
bullshite. I have a side job of providing security at a local church. I'm an independent contractor and get a 10-99 every year. Still had to wear a mask inside the church.
Posted on 5/5/21 at 11:19 am to Jbird
This will just make more people lose jobs and work. Dumbass move again.....
Posted on 5/5/21 at 11:23 am to Jbird
its something OMB did that means its bad. it has to be reversed
Posted on 5/5/21 at 11:24 am to Jbird
Uber and Lyft drivers don't make scratch to begin with after they deduct their miles driven. Now that they're W2 employees, they can't deduct their mileage. So now, they pay taxes on the money they bring in, but can't take a deduction for what it cost to generate their income.
This doesn't sound very worker friendly. It appears the Dims want it both ways. Take from the means of production and then take from the working class. Where have I seen this before in history?
This doesn't sound very worker friendly. It appears the Dims want it both ways. Take from the means of production and then take from the working class. Where have I seen this before in history?
Posted on 5/5/21 at 11:25 am to Tantal
quote:that’s the church’s rule though
bullshite. I have a side job of providing security at a local church. I'm an independent contractor and get a 10-99 every year. Still had to wear a mask inside the church
My rule in my own car for everybody was that no masks are required. Uber tried to dictate how I did my job beyond the “point A to point B” part.
This post was edited on 5/5/21 at 11:33 am
Posted on 5/5/21 at 11:26 am to Jbird
Regulations are hidden taxes.
These regulations will bring more cost to all and will cost jobs.
These regulations will bring more cost to all and will cost jobs.
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