re: The Crown Season 4 Thread

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At least William seems well-adjusted and a worthy successor. Hopefully Charles's reign doesn't last too long.


True. And a lot of that probably has to do with having a parent that was an "outsider" and how that all went down.

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Yes, William was 15 by the time Diana died. There were enough years that she had a tremendous impact on his behaviors and attitudes. In photos of William with his kids, the children seem to smile and be playful with him, something William never got from Charles. He and Kate appear to actually love each other, as well.

When you see Season 4 of The Crown, Harry and Meghan's desire to go their own way makes a bit more sense. No amount of money and titles would make having the Windsor's as family worth it.

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They really made that character a bafoon. She showed up. Girl power. Didn't fit in at camp. Child was a dope got lost in car race. Drove economy down the shitter. Cried with queen. And then bye bye Maggie.

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It seems so weird to me that they did so little on the IRA. They bombed her hotel.

It’s so weird to me how glossed over the Irish independence and terrorism gets everywhere. I guess it’s just so damn complicated.

It's funny that throughout the history of this lineage/British royalty, the strongest women were not the first born.

Elizabeth I being the most notable, then Margaret, then Anne.

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They failed with Thatcher.

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Gillian Anderson's portrayal of her was cartoonish and distracting.

You have to keep in mind this is a netflix series that is trying to interweave facts from the different eras while incorporating the personal lives, a behind the scenes look at the royals which is kept so private/personal to begin with that no one can look inside it and get the real truth.

You also have to keep in mind how old elizabeth is and go back in time to how she was brought up

Not a doubt in my mind that the hands off approach to parenting is one reason all those kids seem out of touch with the world they grew up in, they were isolated from those times and they were some pretty volatile times during their formative years

It's long past time for the queen to turn it over to someone new and they should bypass Charles at this point
Once it gets to William I think you might finally see some real meaningful change to the royal family that is long overdue

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It's long past time for the queen to turn it over to someone new and they should bypass Charles at this point

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Nah gonna happen.

Liz's mom lived to be 101. Her aunt lived to be 102.

She has another seven or eight years in her.

Charles will take the throne at around 80.

William will take over in his 50's.

Phillip is about to hit 100. We'll have to see what his passing does to Liz. Sometimes losing a spouse accelerates your decline.

Just finished the series and my question is why did they not cover Thatcher's hotel getting bombed and her barely surviving by the skin of her teeth?

That was a major event in her premiership and iirc, had repercussions.

With that said, Charles is still a piece of shite but the person who is mostly responsible for this failure of a marriage is the Queen herself. She knew there was a possibility that the marriage would not work out, the signs kept showing up and she still pushed her son into it anyway and did a lot to make sure they stayed together despite the clear as a blue sky signs it never worked.

She failed as a mother to her son.

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It is odd some of the things that they didn’t cover.

Anne’s kidnapping attempt would’ve been another. Her badass basically told kidnappers to bugger off when they tried. Would’ve made for great TV.

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I was surprised by that as well.

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Just finished the series and my question is why did they not cover Thatcher's hotel getting bombed and her barely surviving by the skin of her teeth?


It is odd some of the things that they didn’t cover.

Anne’s kidnapping attempt would’ve been another. Her badass basically told kidnappers to bugger off when they tried. Would’ve made for great TV.

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I think the main reason they don't show these things is because above all else, this series is about The Queen. I feel like most of the other people in both the family and government are covered in how they relate to The Queen. It's not about Thatcher or Anne.