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re: Matt Rhule 2-16 vs ranked teams
Posted on 11/29/21 at 11:41 am to nvasil1
Posted on 11/29/21 at 11:41 am to nvasil1
If it's Campbell or Rhule I'll take Campbell and he's still iffy to me but at least there's some substance to his body of work. There's nothing to suggest Rhule is the home run hire this board calls it.
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Posted on 11/29/21 at 11:44 am to nvasil1
quote:
He's also 8-13 against ranked teams at Iowa State.
But he’s also lost 33 games there in 6 seasons. So he’s lost 20 times to unranked teams. Who cares if you beat Bama if you lose to Vanderbilt and South Carolina? I think Campbell’s probably a really good coach and would be fine with him, but he’s not as qualified as Rhule.
Posted on 11/29/21 at 11:46 am to Hot Carl
quote:
I think Campbell’s probably a really good coach and would be fine with him, but he’s not as qualified as Rhule.
What is it that makes Rhule more qualified than Campbell?
Posted on 11/29/21 at 11:53 am to Lsuhoohoo
quote:
What is it that makes Rhule more qualified than Campbell?
He’s a better recruiter for 1. Has significant NFL experience for 2.
I know Iowa State’s program is historically terrible, but Campbell’s only losing less than 5 games 1 time in 6 seasons isn’t a red flag for you? He’s had one nice season where he still lost 3 games. And it was the weird arse COVID year last year where all results should be taken with a grain of salt.
Posted on 11/29/21 at 12:00 pm to Lsuhoohoo
quote:
it's Campbell or Rhule I'll take Campbell and he's still iffy to me but at least there's some substance to his body of work. There's
so winning a conf champ at fricking temple isn’t substance. Taking art briles dumpster fire he left for Rhule at baylor from 1 win building them up and getting 11 wins and a NY6 bowl isn’t substance. Thank god you don’t make decisions.
Posted on 11/29/21 at 12:00 pm to Hot Carl
quote:
I know Iowa State’s program is historically terrible, but Campbell’s only losing less than 5 games 1 time in 6 seasons isn’t a red flag for you?
Oh it is. I had a thread about Campbell the other day that got a similar response. He seems to have a built in excuse for losing because he's at Iowa State. He had a 9-3 record last year and a top 10 team coming into this year with a ton of returning starters and they faceplanted to a 5 loss season. I was met with push back on that with everything from "so he's a bad coach because the media overated them?" To "the fact that he had Iowa State in the preseason top 10 in the first place speaks to his talent as a coach".
This post was edited on 11/29/21 at 12:05 pm
Posted on 11/29/21 at 12:01 pm to Lsuhoohoo
I don’t get the infatuation
Posted on 11/29/21 at 12:07 pm to sunnydaze
I also don't get it
Baylor 4 years before Rhule
11-2
11-2
10-3
7-6
3 years under Rhule
1-11
7-6
11-3,
so he got worse in year 1, below average in year 2, and had a good year 3.
Same thing for Temple
4 years before Rhule
9-4
8-4
9-4
4-7
4 years of Rhule
2-10
6-6
10-4
10-4
Once again, got worse in year 1, still below average for year 2, then in year 3 and 4 did a little better, but somewhat in line with previous coaches.
Baylor 4 years before Rhule
11-2
11-2
10-3
7-6
3 years under Rhule
1-11
7-6
11-3,
so he got worse in year 1, below average in year 2, and had a good year 3.
Same thing for Temple
4 years before Rhule
9-4
8-4
9-4
4-7
4 years of Rhule
2-10
6-6
10-4
10-4
Once again, got worse in year 1, still below average for year 2, then in year 3 and 4 did a little better, but somewhat in line with previous coaches.
This post was edited on 11/29/21 at 12:08 pm
Posted on 11/29/21 at 12:08 pm to Lsuhoohoo
You did hire a dc shrimp boat captain …
Posted on 11/29/21 at 12:11 pm to Lsuhoohoo
quote:
Oh it is. I had a thread about Campbell the other day that got a similar response. He seems to have a built in excuse for losing because he's at Iowa State. He had a 9-3 record last year and a top 10 team coming into this year with a ton of returning starters and they faceplanted to a 5 loss season. I was met with push back on that with everything from "so he's a bad coach because the media overated them?" To "the fact that he had Iowa State in the preseason top 10 in the first place speaks to his talent as a coach".
We’ll, we’re on the same page regarding Campbell then. As far as Rhule goes, I caught him on the radio (national) right after he took the Baylor job, and he blew me away, so I’ve probably paid attention to him than most. He’s a very impressive guy. YouTube some of his talks.
That said, like you I think, Aranda remains my #1. But I had never really considered Rhule a legit option until today, so I may have to re-think that. I think both have really high ceilings, but Dave may have a lower floor.
Posted on 11/29/21 at 12:11 pm to Tigers0918
quote:
also don't get it
Baylor 4 years before Rhule
Do you forget all the shite that happened at Baylor before he got there? Briles got in trouble they had scholarships taken away and a ton of players left.
Posted on 11/29/21 at 12:19 pm to Lsuhoohoo
Good god, people are still this basic
Posted on 11/29/21 at 12:21 pm to Lsuhoohoo
quote:Navy was beating Notre Dame and a quality team in those years
Navy and East Carolina
Posted on 11/29/21 at 2:54 pm to Chicken
quote:
what was O's record against ranked opponents prior to LSU?
LSU excluding Burrow years
vs Top 25 8-11
vs Top 10 2-5
vs Top 5 0-5
Pre LSU
vs Top 25 2-13
vs Top 10 0-9
vs Top 5 0-4
Ole Miss
vs Top 25 0-12
vs Top 10 0-8
vs Top 5 0-3
USC Interim
vs Top 25 2-1
vs Top 10 0-1
vs Top 5 0-1
TMI?
This post was edited on 11/29/21 at 2:55 pm
Posted on 11/29/21 at 3:04 pm to nvasil1
quote:
He's also 8-13 against ranked teams at Iowa State.
Saban at Michigan State
Pre LSU
vs Top 25 8-13
vs Top 10 4-8
vs Top 5 2-2
Posted on 11/29/21 at 3:04 pm to Lsuhoohoo
What was Saban vs ranked teams before LSU hired him.
Posted on 11/29/21 at 3:06 pm to Lsuhoohoo
Pretty sure the record will be a little different if he had LSU players
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