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mandate already causing problems for defense contractors

Posted on 11/18/21 at 12:10 pm
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
84255 posts
Posted on 11/18/21 at 12:10 pm
Employees are staging protests and walkouts in response to the federal mandate, which requires all government contractors to be fully vaccinated against COVID-19 by Jan. 4. Unlike private employers covered by the Biden mandate, federal contractors haven’t been given the option to test workers weekly for COVID-19, and the recent OSHA enforcement suspension does not apply to them.

As the deadline approaches, major defense companies expect to see employees quit rather than be vaccinated. Losing this human capital will, in turn, cause delays in time-sensitive defense programs at a time when the country can least afford them. On-time delivery of items such as F-35 fighter jets and the Columbia-class submarine is crucial in the U.S.’s competition with China.
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The subject was popular in companies’ recent quarterly earnings calls. Raytheon CEO Greg Hayes said the company is “expecting some level of disruption, some level of challenge in the supply chain.” He told CNBC that the company expects to lose “several thousand” of its 125,000 employees.

The vaccine mandate “has not been well received by a pretty sizable portion of our employees,” Textron CEO Scott Donnelly reported. “There’s no question that we’re going to lose some employees because of this,” he added.

Losing a sizable chunk of the workforce would disrupt any industry, but defense manufacturing is particularly vulnerable. The labor market for the highly skilled – and highly specialized – manufacturing done in our nation’s shipyards, munitions plants and the rest of the industrial base is a very tight and often fragile market.

Taking these trends into account, a recent Defense Department report found that gaps in U.S.-based human capital are a major risk factor for several defense industry sectors: ground systems, machine tools, missiles and munitions, shipbuilding, software engineering, space and the organic (or government-owned) industrial base.

When highly skilled employees in these sectors quit over the vaccine mandate, it will be very difficult, if not impossible, to replace them. This will be a problem for the largest prime contractors but will be especially difficult for smaller subcontractors, since small and mid-sized companies do not have the hiring resources, training programs and other tools that the largest companies use to attract new hires.

It doesn’t have to be this way. Defense firms have been open for business throughout the pandemic, even during state and local shutdowns, because they were considered part of U.S. “critical infrastructure.” All that time, they have followed safety protocols, requiring that employees wear masks and maintain social distancing in the workplace.

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Posted by Quidam65
Q Continuum
Member since Jun 2010
20484 posts
Posted on 11/18/21 at 12:14 pm to
So watch a ton of contract claims come in, claiming the Government's direction caused increased costs.

Which means my colleagues and I will be quite busy (as I audit defense contractors for FedGov).
Posted by Jrv2damac
KS (mountain time)
Member since Mar 2004
72209 posts
Posted on 11/18/21 at 12:16 pm to
DCAA eh
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
81611 posts
Posted on 11/18/21 at 12:16 pm to
Maybe Austin can pay some of the lost income to Raytheon out of his own pocket.
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
68471 posts
Posted on 11/18/21 at 12:17 pm to
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claiming the Government's direction caused increased costs.

2 things: I wonder how many contract employees will see any of these "cost increases?"

I'm a fed contractor as a Contract Specialist and your work could affect mine.
Posted by The Eric
Member since Sep 2008
24130 posts
Posted on 11/18/21 at 12:19 pm to
Defense contractors are just the tip of the iceberg.

Millions of healthcare workers are being classified as government contractors because they treat Medicare/Medicaid patients, even though the work for private businesses.

This mandate will cripple America.
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
84255 posts
Posted on 11/18/21 at 12:21 pm to
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This mandate will cripple America.
Has to be the end goal.
Posted by corneredbeast
02134
Member since Sep 2008
2302 posts
Posted on 11/18/21 at 12:24 pm to
Those fired should form new companies, building systems to sell to foreign entities who don't care if they're jabbed.
Posted by Quidam65
Q Continuum
Member since Jun 2010
20484 posts
Posted on 11/18/21 at 12:27 pm to
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DCAA eh



34 plus years.
Posted by Jrv2damac
KS (mountain time)
Member since Mar 2004
72209 posts
Posted on 11/18/21 at 12:38 pm to
Just 3.5 here but I’m currently buying back 8 years of AD
Posted by deathvalleytiger10
Member since Sep 2009
9049 posts
Posted on 11/18/21 at 12:41 pm to
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Millions of healthcare workers are being classified as government contractors because they treat Medicare/Medicaid patients, even though the work for private businesses.


Very good friend runs a midsize rehab hospital in Florida. She says they are about to lose 40% of the staff including herself. The facility is facing closure.
Posted by bgoodwin
Cullman, Al
Member since Sep 2011
599 posts
Posted on 11/18/21 at 12:45 pm to
My wife (no pics) works for defense contractor in Huntsville. Company leadership is super-woke, they announced the mandate as soon as the president* said it. Company is even requiring to see proof of vaccination from sub-contractor companies they deal with, even for 100% remote workers.
Posted by mightyMick
Member since Aug 2018
3067 posts
Posted on 11/18/21 at 12:49 pm to
Replacing engineers who work on DoD projects will also involve replacements, if they can find them, to get clearances.
Posted by Floating Change Up
Member since Dec 2013
12876 posts
Posted on 11/18/21 at 12:54 pm to
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claiming the Government's direction caused increased costs.


It 100% will impact government contractors.

My company has fewer than 100 employees, so I'm not impacted yet. But some of my vendors, who are also government contractors do fall under the Mandates.

I am already hearing reports of employees telling employers, "I'm walking, unless you bump my pay XX%". Basically, employees are using the mandates as a way to get raises that 1) the employees don't deserve and 2) the businesses can't afford because it blows out their costs on a firm-fixed price government contract.

TL:DR version, the mandates will 100% drive up the costs of government contracts.
Posted by winkchance
St. George, LA
Member since Jul 2016
6126 posts
Posted on 11/18/21 at 12:57 pm to
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This mandate will cripple America.


The goal all along. The slow methodical shutting down the energy sector was the first step.
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
84255 posts
Posted on 11/18/21 at 1:05 pm to
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Company is even requiring to see proof of vaccination from sub-contractor companies they deal with, even for 100% remote workers.


We have a guy, technical writer, one of the best, his wife dies and he works from his cabin on a lake. Never met the guy in person, him and his dog live a nice life. Yup fricking company says get the jab or get fired.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
62563 posts
Posted on 11/18/21 at 1:09 pm to
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This mandate will cripple America.

Leftists consider that a feature, not a flaw.
Posted by keks tadpole
Yellow Leaf Creek
Member since Feb 2017
8456 posts
Posted on 11/18/21 at 1:14 pm to
Stars and Stripes
Huntington Ingalls Industries suspends vaccine mandates.
TLDR: Navy says current contracts have no vaccine requirements.
We'll see how that goes when the next round of DDGs or the next aircraft carrier goes out for bids.
This post was edited on 11/18/21 at 1:17 pm
Posted by East Coast Band
Member since Nov 2010
66950 posts
Posted on 11/18/21 at 1:19 pm to
Has the vaccine slowed the cases of Covid yet? Anywhere?
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
Here
Member since Jan 2011
70992 posts
Posted on 11/18/21 at 1:22 pm to
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Navy says current contracts have no vaccine requirements.


Yea, I giggled when I saw that but it is true. They can't re-write existing contracts on a whim. Its absolutely written into the new RFQs though.

Going to be interesting next 6 months how this goes. The only out is all of the subs collectively no-bidding, which isn't going to happen. I suspect they will roll back the mandate. Many many more people than expected are threatening to quit over this, which gives me a freedom boner.
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