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Heard Will Cain say J and J vaccine is only 3% effective

Posted on 10/18/21 at 8:09 pm
Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
59565 posts
Posted on 10/18/21 at 8:09 pm
I was watching Will Cain on Fox at 6 and he was talking about the waining effectiveness of the vaccines and said shockingly that the J and J vaccines effectiveness has fallen to 3%?
How is this possible?
Does he mean if you received it when the pandemic began, it’s now down to 3% effectiveness?
Posted by Ricardo
Member since Sep 2016
5395 posts
Posted on 10/18/21 at 8:12 pm to
At that effectiveness, it would be worse than a placebo.

All the risk, none of the benefit.
This post was edited on 10/18/21 at 8:21 pm
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
57901 posts
Posted on 10/18/21 at 8:19 pm to
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The researchers found that among more than 600,000 veterans, J&J's vaccine's protection fell from 88% in March to 3% in August. Meanwhile, Moderna's vaccine protection against infection fell to 64% from 92%, and Pfizer's declined to 50% from 91% during that same time period.

Posted by Jack Bauers HnK
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
5823 posts
Posted on 10/18/21 at 8:20 pm to
quote:

I was watching Will Cain on Fox at 6 and he was talking about the waining effectiveness of the vaccines and said shockingly that the J and J vaccines effectiveness has fallen to 3%? How is this possible? Does he mean if you received it when the pandemic began, it’s now down to 3% effectiveness?


Does a therapeutic injection to reduce the severity of the flu last longer than a year? Why would a similar injection for covid be any different?
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
162907 posts
Posted on 10/18/21 at 8:21 pm to
Gonna need a real citation on this...not the remarks of some queer looking pundit.
Posted by xxTIMMYxx
Member since Aug 2019
17562 posts
Posted on 10/18/21 at 8:22 pm to
Powerman’s Dick is 3% effective
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
79630 posts
Posted on 10/18/21 at 8:26 pm to
I'm a 3% er
Posted by flyAU
Scottsdale
Member since Dec 2010
24884 posts
Posted on 10/18/21 at 8:27 pm to
I got the J&J since I figured it was the lesser of the evils. I would have wanted them to inject saline tbh so I don’t care about the efficacy.

This is all bullshite. Novavax needs to be approved.
Posted by BeepNode
Lafayette
Member since Feb 2014
10005 posts
Posted on 10/18/21 at 8:30 pm to
That's dumb.
Posted by Ricardo
Member since Sep 2016
5395 posts
Posted on 10/18/21 at 8:31 pm to
The J&J vaccine is basically the same as a flu vaccine. It's just that it was made for the initial "wild type" strain of the virus. It does not take into account the variety of potential new "variants." It is a waste of time at this point to get the J&J vaccine. You're not likely to get the version of the virus that it was made for.

The other issue is that the combination of vaccines that were unleashed. The mRNA vaccines appear to have a very narrow window of protection against the spike proteins on the surface of the virus. The problem there is that what if people infected with the virus that have received the vaccine are producing new variants of the virus since it is now having to find new ways to bind to cells in the body.

So now mRNA vaccines are basically useless and traditional vaccines are outdated.

What should have been done was, "at risk" patients should have gotten vaccinated and quarantined for their own safety. Healthy individuals should have been allowed to stay in a productive "normal" state throughout this pandemic. That would have allowed the virus to run its course through the population and burned itself out. Elderly and immune compromised people would have been given the experimental therapeutics and quarantined until everything had blown over.

Instead, we did the worst possible thing and prolonged the duration of the virus, thus allowing it to mutate and infect and injure more people than it should have.
Posted by ninthward
Boston, MA
Member since May 2007
20713 posts
Posted on 10/18/21 at 8:32 pm to
lol frick this
Posted by Kjnstkmn
Vermilion Parish
Member since Aug 2020
13025 posts
Posted on 10/18/21 at 8:33 pm to
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I got the J&J since I figured it was the lesser of the evils.


me too, ain't taking nothing else but Ivomec and my supplements now. They can stick their boosters.
Posted by SuperSaint
Sorting Out OT BS Since '2007'
Member since Sep 2007
141082 posts
Posted on 10/18/21 at 8:33 pm to
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queer looking pundit.
Posted by Langland
Trumplandia
Member since Apr 2014
15382 posts
Posted on 10/18/21 at 8:55 pm to
I got the J&J one jab. Does that mean that the shite is out of my system?
Posted by flyAU
Scottsdale
Member since Dec 2010
24884 posts
Posted on 10/18/21 at 9:00 pm to
quote:

It is a waste of time at this point to get the J&J vaccine.


Tell that to my employer who accepts it as you being vaxxed.
Posted by SirWinston
PNW
Member since Jul 2014
88950 posts
Posted on 10/18/21 at 9:03 pm to
Fantastic gif, fellow West Coast baw
Posted by Nosevens
Member since Apr 2019
12283 posts
Posted on 10/18/21 at 9:08 pm to
Said Covid effectiveness is 3% but organ failure and clots are still as prevalent as they were in getting shot .
Posted by Ricardo
Member since Sep 2016
5395 posts
Posted on 10/18/21 at 9:09 pm to
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Tell that to my employer who accepts it as you being vaxxed.


That's a whole different beast.

If you just need the paperwork so you can put food on the table, you gotta do what you gotta do.

I am just saying from a risk/benefit analysis, it makes about as much sense as getting last year's flu shot for the coming season.
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
37041 posts
Posted on 10/18/21 at 9:20 pm to
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The mRNA vaccines appear to have a very narrow window of protection against the spike proteins on the surface of the virus. The problem there is that what if people infected with the virus that have received the vaccine are producing new variants of the virus since it is now having to find new ways to bind to cells in the body.


There has been a variant that uses something other than the spike protein to enter the cell?
Posted by fischd1
Mandeville
Member since Dec 2007
3024 posts
Posted on 10/18/21 at 9:22 pm to
I had the J and J plus caught Covid and my measured antibodies are off the chart.
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