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re: SW Airlines CEO - we will not fire any employees refusing vaccine
Posted on 10/12/21 at 3:27 pm to idlewatcher
Posted on 10/12/21 at 3:27 pm to idlewatcher
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THen why the looming threat of OSHA coming in hard?
What looming threat?
Dems claiming there is a looming threat does not mean there is a looming threat.
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Posted on 10/12/21 at 3:28 pm to Y.A. Tittle
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Based on what legislation?
Jesus H, I'm trying to get a f'ing question answered, not throwing ya'll under the bus.
Posted on 10/12/21 at 3:32 pm to idlewatcher
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Now explain this to me like I'm Michael Scott's spermatozoa
Won't OSHA come in as a result?
The President is planning to give OSHA authority via an Executive Order to issue an emergency temporary standard (ETS) to make it legal to fine businesses that have unvaccinated employees. The question is: is this expansion of OSHA provenance legal or does such an expansion require legislative definition?
Emergency Temporary Standards
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Under certain limited conditions, OSHA is authorized to set emergency temporary standards that take effect immediately and are in effect until superseded by a permanent standard. OSHA must determine that workers are in grave danger due to exposure to toxic substances or agents determined to be toxic or physically harmful or to new hazards and that an emergency standard is needed to protect them. Then, OSHA publishes the emergency temporary standard in the Federal Register, where it also serves as a proposed permanent standard. It is then subject to the usual procedure for adopting a permanent standard except that a final ruling should be made within six months. The validity of an emergency temporary standard may be challenged in an appropriate U.S. Court of Appeals.
The idea is to force the Biden administration to "put up or shut up" by forcing the issue into court. Ideally the resolution would create a barrier to the limits of Executive Orders.
***EDIT***
I jumped the gun a bit, changed "gave OSHA authority" to "is planning to give OSHA authority".
This post was edited on 10/12/21 at 4:34 pm
Posted on 10/12/21 at 3:35 pm to Chet Donnely
Bent the knee.
fricking right. Keep it up.
fricking right. Keep it up.
Posted on 10/12/21 at 3:35 pm to Tantal
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This post was edited on 11/14/23 at 12:56 am
Posted on 10/12/21 at 3:37 pm to idlewatcher
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Jesus H, I'm trying to get a f'ing question answered, not throwing ya'll under the bus.
I know. I just want us to stop acting like it's crazy that free Americans may actually be pushing back against some of this crazy.
Posted on 10/12/21 at 3:40 pm to Chet Donnely
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If they can’t get vaccinated, we’re urging them to seek an accommodation
WTF is that supposed to mean?
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we’ll do everything we can to support our people here,
They will roll over for the insertion of neolib power; and like it.
Posted on 10/12/21 at 3:45 pm to BuckyCheese
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If they are on unpaid leave they still don't have anyone to fly their planes.
True but legally it’s different and that’s what other federal contractors are doing.
Posted on 10/12/21 at 3:47 pm to Chet Donnely
Hopefully the tide starts to turn. frick these authoritarian pieces of shite running this country.
Posted on 10/12/21 at 3:50 pm to Chet Donnely
Weather cleared - an Act of God.
Thank you, God.
Thank you, God.
Posted on 10/12/21 at 3:51 pm to Bard
Did he actually sign an executive order for this? Or did he say he would sign an executive order on this and then just slow walk the actual signing. He knows it is unconstitutional but you can't sue and get an injunction until he signs it. So he announces it and business do it because they think its coming, but it is never actually law.
Posted on 10/12/21 at 3:54 pm to Bard
Thank you Bard and YA Tittle
That was a great explanation
That was a great explanation
Posted on 10/12/21 at 3:56 pm to Mike Honcho
He signed an EO aimed at Federal Contractors of which SW Air is one.
The 100+ employee OSHA rule hasn't landed yet, but the federal contractor mandate has.
The 100+ employee OSHA rule hasn't landed yet, but the federal contractor mandate has.
Posted on 10/12/21 at 3:57 pm to lsursb
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Hmmmm...I wonder if this will solve all those pesky weather delays from the past few days.
I have a colleague who hasn't been able to fly back from Reno to the Birmingham (clear blue all the way, equipment grounded) for two days now. Not the worst situation in the world, though, if you've been to Reno, you know it's not ideal.
Posted on 10/12/21 at 3:57 pm to Chet Donnely
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If they can’t get vaccinated, we’re urging them to seek an accommodation
Help the dummy out here
Posted on 10/12/21 at 4:02 pm to themunch
The pilots need to keep hammering SW. While this is a start, it's still pretty vague.
Make them cry and beg for mercy.
Make them cry and beg for mercy.
Posted on 10/12/21 at 4:11 pm to Chet Donnely
It can work! It will take the locking of arms (as repeatedly demonstrated by the dems). Stay strong. Stand for what is right in every business. If pilots stand - stand with them! Then when programmers stand, stand with them. When medical professionals stand, us too! Don’t give them little fires- BURN!!!
Posted on 10/12/21 at 4:19 pm to Chet Donnely
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“We’re not going to fire any employees over this. We’re urging all of our employees to get vaccinated. If they can’t get vaccinated, we’re urging them to seek an accommodation, so we’ll do everything we can to support our people here,” he said.
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"Failure to comply with the COVID-19 Vaccine Policy will result in termination of employment."
Well which is it?? Can't play it both ways.
Posted on 10/12/21 at 4:21 pm to HollierThanThou
because they are based in texas.
more companies need to do this. ESPECIALLY when this Merck drug gets approved by FDA. Get off this whole vaccine mandate crap.
more companies need to do this. ESPECIALLY when this Merck drug gets approved by FDA. Get off this whole vaccine mandate crap.
Posted on 10/12/21 at 4:31 pm to Mike Honcho
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Did he actually sign an executive order for this? Or did he say he would sign an executive order on this and then just slow walk the actual signing. He knows it is unconstitutional but you can't sue and get an injunction until he signs it. So he announces it and business do it because they think its coming, but it is never actually law.
It's a bit of both. The primer was the EO he signed in September for federal employees ( LINK) but the business mandate (OSHA threat) is part of his stated plan ( LINK) which he said is coming.
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