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latest Pfizer Study

Posted on 10/5/21 at 8:51 am
Posted by winkchance
St. George, LA
Member since Jul 2016
6089 posts
Posted on 10/5/21 at 8:51 am
So what does this latest study tell us about the shot, since it is really not a vaccine:

1. I get the second shot, in six months the efficacy drops to %47 for any variant.

2. Delta is not more contagious, just the vaccine was less effective when it came through.

3. So 4-6 months after the shot, it was not a pandemic of the "unvaccinated" but a pandemic of a people who got a shot who thought they were safe from spreading the virus that were spreading the virus.

4. Much like the masks that don't work, a false sense of security was created by the government and pharma and then blamed on the customer.

5. basically millions of people thought they were vaccinated and 6 months later were not vaccinated anymore.

6.Pharma is making money hand over fist and the government and media are assisting for their own benefit.

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Posted by SwampBandit
Livonia, La
Member since Jun 2016
3710 posts
Posted on 10/5/21 at 8:55 am to
Sheep are gonna sheep... they are brainwashed to oblivion and following the propaganda to cause division between vaxxed and unvaxxed. They ignore any scientific data then tell the unvaxxed we need to follow the science when we are... the government don’t give things out for free.... pharma and the globalist are getting everything they want out of this... we as a society (most of society) have fallen to following what the media says and not making our own decisions and it’s sad
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Posted by slinger1317
Northshore
Member since Sep 2005
6832 posts
Posted on 10/5/21 at 8:58 am to
Serious question-

So is this "vaccine" basically like a flu shot?

It was designed for the original variant and did its job, but now is basically useless against future variants?

I think the vaccine was beneficial in the beginning, but like seasonal flu shots, each year it needs to be tweaked.

Am I correct in thinking this?
Posted by rphtx
CO
Member since Apr 2018
1539 posts
Posted on 10/5/21 at 9:00 am to
Just wait. If you make it through the coldvid timeline without getting an mrna covid vaccine, pfizer is running trials for an mrna influenza shot. One way or another, they are gonna get that mrna cocktail in you. Coldvid is getting overplayed and that ship is slowly sailing as far as people willingly wanting the juice. However, people will be more psychologically willing to take a flu shot that they have been trained to take on a yearly basis for decades and be too dumb to see the difference between what they have always taken and an mrna version. Either way, they will get most people in the end mainly through deception and ignorance.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
103110 posts
Posted on 10/5/21 at 9:00 am to
Right idea.

Problem is that there seem to be enough side effects associated with this that treating it as a flu shot for anyone not at extreme risk is basically playing Russian Roulette with syringes.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
46029 posts
Posted on 10/5/21 at 9:01 am to
I would contend that the effectiveness was NEVER as good as 88%. No real data anywhere in the world supports that.

Everything the tell us turns out to be wrong. The only common theme underlying the government's "guidance" is political donors in Big Pharma are getting richer beyond anyone's wildest dreams. Their market caps have doubled in a year!

Delta was NOT more deadly
Delta was NOT more contagious
Delta was NOT a greater danger to children
The vaccines are NOT stopping contraction OR spread
Posted by winkchance
St. George, LA
Member since Jul 2016
6089 posts
Posted on 10/5/21 at 9:02 am to
quote:

So is this "vaccine" basically like a flu shot?


Flu shot might be better at it's job. Covid shot lasts for 4-6 months they say on any variant.

Just gives more credibility to treat at risk people to keep them out of the hospital.

Treat people with bad symptoms.

Let natural immunity do its job.
Posted by rphtx
CO
Member since Apr 2018
1539 posts
Posted on 10/5/21 at 9:03 am to
quote:

So is this "vaccine" basically like a flu shot?


Absolutely not.

quote:

I think the vaccine was beneficial in the beginning


Highly debatable due to side effects and high potential for creating a long term autoimmune response.

quote:

Am I correct in thinking this?


No
Posted by winkchance
St. George, LA
Member since Jul 2016
6089 posts
Posted on 10/5/21 at 9:05 am to
It is looking more and more like Covid was designed/or used to do three things. Save failing hospitals, put money in big Pharma pocket, give an out to failing states to get government assistance.
Posted by mouton
Savannah,Ga
Member since Aug 2006
28276 posts
Posted on 10/5/21 at 9:13 am to
quote:

high potential for creating a long term autoimmune response.

Posted by rphtx
CO
Member since Apr 2018
1539 posts
Posted on 10/5/21 at 9:23 am to
quote:

high potential for creating a long term autoimmune response.


Potential antigenic cross-reactivity between SARS-CoV-2 and human tissue with a possible link to an increase in autoimmune diseases

Doubt you could follow this, but TLDR:

our own findings that 21 out of 50 (nearly 50%) tissue antigens had moderate to strong reactions with the SARS-CoV-2 antibodies are a sufficiently strong indication of cross-reaction between SARS-CoV-2 proteins and a variety of tissue antigens beyond just pulmonary tissue, which could lead to autoimmunity against connective tissue and the cardiovascular, gastrointestinal, and nervous systems.
Posted by tigerdup07
Member since Dec 2007
22248 posts
Posted on 10/5/21 at 9:24 am to
frick it. it's free. i took it.
Posted by Archer
Murica
Member since Jan 2021
474 posts
Posted on 10/5/21 at 9:31 am to
The fact that the people providing us with vaccines are also the ones providing studies for them and that no one cares, is troubling.
Posted by mouton
Savannah,Ga
Member since Aug 2006
28276 posts
Posted on 10/5/21 at 9:34 am to
"Could" and "Possible" do not equal "high potential."
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
85623 posts
Posted on 10/5/21 at 9:36 am to
quote:

think the vaccine was beneficial in the beginning


The beginning of what? I’ve only been eligible for the shot for 6 months now. We are still in the beginning.
Posted by alphaandomega
Tuscaloosa-Here to Serve
Member since Aug 2012
16631 posts
Posted on 10/5/21 at 9:44 am to
quote:

So what does this latest study tell us about the shot, since it is really not a vaccine:

1. I get the second shot, in six months the efficacy drops to %47 for any variant.

2. Delta is not more contagious, just the vaccine was less effective when it came through.

3. So 4-6 months after the shot, it was not a pandemic of the "unvaccinated" but a pandemic of a people who got a shot who thought they were safe from spreading the virus that were spreading the virus.

4. Much like the masks that don't work, a false sense of security was created by the government and pharma and then blamed on the customer.

5. basically millions of people thought they were vaccinated and 6 months later were not vaccinated anymore.

6.Pharma is making money hand over fist and the government and media are assisting for their own benefit.



I dont understand how why you got any down votes.
Posted by omegaman66
greenwell springs
Member since Oct 2007
26263 posts
Posted on 10/5/21 at 10:14 am to
quote:

Treat people with bad symptoms.


Here is the problem right here. You need to treat early before you have bad symptoms to save lives. And never with Remdesivir. By the time your symptoms are bad if you are one of the people that is at risk of death, You are now fighting your bodies immune response and not the virus.
Posted by TS1926
Alabama
Member since Jan 2020
7499 posts
Posted on 10/5/21 at 10:20 am to
quote:

Could" and "Possible" do not equal "high potential."


Well we really don't know yet what the long term affects are do we? Not enough data to arrive at an accurate conclusion since it was rushed through in a hurry without a solid base of study.
Posted by deathvalleytiger10
Member since Sep 2009
9025 posts
Posted on 10/5/21 at 10:26 am to
quote:

high potential for creating a long term autoimmune response.



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mouton
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It is way too early in the game to be laughing.
Posted by themunch
bottom of the list
Member since Jan 2007
71296 posts
Posted on 10/5/21 at 10:28 am to
quote:

it's free.
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