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Moderna vaccine has similar immune response to natural infection
Posted on 9/14/21 at 8:53 pm
Posted on 9/14/21 at 8:53 pm
New study published in Science. Abstract from paper:
This paper was from Crotty et al. Crotty is a widely respected vaccine researcher at the La Jolla Institute.
They were looking specifically at T cell immunity (not antibodies) and were looking at people from Phase 1 clinical trials who took only a quarter dose of the Moderna vaccine. Even in people who took this reduced dose, the T cell immune response was strong and lasts at least 6 months, though the researchers believe immunity lasts much longer than that.
In other words, booster shots probably aren't needed. The T cells last much longer than antibodies. And considering that the official Moderna vaccine is 100 micrograms, our protection is likely stronger than the people in this study (who took 25 micrograms).
I am glad that I rolled up my sleeve and proudly took my Moderna Trump vaccine.
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Vaccine-specific CD4+ T cell, CD8+ T cell, binding antibody, and neutralizing antibody responses to the 25-µg Moderna mRNA-1273 vaccine were examined over 7 months post-immunization, including multiple age groups, with a particular interest in assessing whether pre-existing cross-reactive T cell memory impacts vaccine-generated immunity. Vaccine-generated spike-specific memory CD4+ T cells 6 months post-boost were comparable in quantity and quality to COVID-19 cases, including the presence of T follicular helper cells and IFN?-expressing cells. Spike-specific CD8+ T cells were generated in 88% of subjects, with equivalent memory at 6 months post-boost compared to COVID-19 cases. Lastly, subjects with pre-existing cross-reactive CD4+ T cell memory had increased CD4+ T cell and antibody responses to the vaccine, demonstrating the biological relevance of SARS-CoV-2–cross-reactive CD4+ T cells.
This paper was from Crotty et al. Crotty is a widely respected vaccine researcher at the La Jolla Institute.
They were looking specifically at T cell immunity (not antibodies) and were looking at people from Phase 1 clinical trials who took only a quarter dose of the Moderna vaccine. Even in people who took this reduced dose, the T cell immune response was strong and lasts at least 6 months, though the researchers believe immunity lasts much longer than that.
In other words, booster shots probably aren't needed. The T cells last much longer than antibodies. And considering that the official Moderna vaccine is 100 micrograms, our protection is likely stronger than the people in this study (who took 25 micrograms).
I am glad that I rolled up my sleeve and proudly took my Moderna Trump vaccine.
Posted on 9/14/21 at 8:54 pm to AUstar
Youve come to the wrong place
Posted on 9/14/21 at 8:55 pm to AUstar
quote:
I am glad that I rolled up my sleeve and proudly took my Moderna Trump vaccine.
I'm glad I got COVID and recovered.
Too bad I'm supposedly a second class citizen because my immune system works.
Posted on 9/14/21 at 8:56 pm to AUstar
What about those of us who actually have had their immune system respond to the Natural infection are we good to not got a shite about these?
Posted on 9/14/21 at 8:57 pm to AUstar
You want a cookie or something?
Posted on 9/14/21 at 8:57 pm to AUstar
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I am glad that I rolled up my sleeve and proudly took my Moderna Trump vaccine
your government thanks you! please remember to report any dissenters.
Posted on 9/14/21 at 9:01 pm to AUstar
Will you be Jones'n when you come off that artificial high?
Posted on 9/14/21 at 9:03 pm to AUstar
What about the moderna doses with the metallic particulate in them?
Posted on 9/14/21 at 9:05 pm to AUstar
From disclosure:
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Employees of Moderna collaborated on protocol development, significantly contributed to the Investigational New Drug (IND) application, and participated in weekly protocol team calls.
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Funding for the manufacture of mRNA-1273 phase 1 material was provided by the Coalition for Epidemic Preparedness Innovation (CEPI).
Posted on 9/14/21 at 9:06 pm to AUstar
Sounds like Moderna is almost as good as natural antibodies. Good 2nd option for obese and immune compromised high risk individuals.
Posted on 9/14/21 at 9:11 pm to AUstar
“The new analysis relies on the database of Maccabi Healthcare Services, which enrolls about 2.5 million Israelis. The study, led by Tal Patalon and Sivan Gazit at KSM, the system’s research and innovation arm, found in two analyses that people who were vaccinated in January and February were, in June, July, and the first half of August, six to 13 times more likely to get infected than unvaccinated people who were previously infected with the coronavirus. In one analysis, comparing more than 32,000 people in the health system, the risk of developing symptomatic COVID-19 was 27 times higher among the vaccinated, and the risk of hospitalization eight times higher.”
Posted on 9/14/21 at 9:49 pm to AUstar
quote:Did you think no one would remember all of your previous stance?
I am glad that I rolled up my sleeve and proudly to... blah blah blah blah
AMAZING
Moderna is not even close to natural immunity - not even close.
Studies first said 3x better for Natural Immunity; then 7 times better; then a couple of day ago 27X better.
your dick will likely fall off within about 3 years if the clotted blood doesnt freeze your body up first..
Seek to avoid being a totalit5arians assistant
Posted on 9/14/21 at 9:56 pm to AUstar
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I am glad that I rolled up my sleeve and proudly took my Moderna Trump vaccine.
Same. It was a personal decision and I respect everyone’s individual choice. I just have a friend same age as myself, in good shape and mid 30’s, and he’s still in ICU since mid July. That was enough for me. But people who feel the need to pressure others over a personal choice such as this “vaccine” (because it’s not really a vaccine) need to back off. And F this mandate talk.
Also, people downvoting this guy need to give it a rest. It’s a helpful article.
This post was edited on 9/14/21 at 9:57 pm
Posted on 9/14/21 at 10:17 pm to AUstar
I won’t get the vaccine but was telling my wife earlier that if for some reason I do, my very uneducated research has me leaning towards Moderna
Posted on 9/14/21 at 10:18 pm to AUstar
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In other words, booster shots probably aren't needed.
Time will tell. The data certainly is interesting.
My take:
Since when has actual data played a role in any of the CDC’s policy “recommendations” concerning Covid? I predict he you will be mandated to get your boosters...plural.
Posted on 9/14/21 at 10:21 pm to AUstar
Pfizer withheld their clinical trial results for weeks until after the election so Trump couldn't ride the victory bump in the polls. Totally political decision probably cost lives. Screw Pfizer.
Waited around for awhile for more data and eventually got the Moderna and am so glad its kicking Pfizer's arse. I like to brag about it when I am around Biden loyalists who ran out to be first in line for the Pfizer jab.
Waited around for awhile for more data and eventually got the Moderna and am so glad its kicking Pfizer's arse. I like to brag about it when I am around Biden loyalists who ran out to be first in line for the Pfizer jab.
Posted on 9/15/21 at 1:18 am to AUstar
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In other words, booster shots probably aren't needed.
Boosters are essential for continued profit and expansion of the surveillance state.
How well they work or if they work at all is irrelevant.
Posted on 9/15/21 at 3:43 am to AUstar
This is yet another horseshite study, that they want the sheep to latch onto, and then propagandize the masses with it.
Reading for comprehension, would have been an important skill to use before posting this nonsense.
6 months from April 2020 is Oct 2020. We didnt even have the Moderna vaccine until Jan 2021 in the US, and this "just released study" (ahem, 1 year late) wants you to accept that Moderna is somehow similar to natural immunity. No one that posts on this board believes that a study done pre-Delta is valid in any way, shape, or form, at this point. Its horseshite
Dont let your teenager take this shite. Maintaining a social life is no trade-off for the unrealized side effects that we are starting to see.
Reading for comprehension, would have been an important skill to use before posting this nonsense.
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Participants received two injections of the trial vaccine 28 days apart between March and April of 2020
6 months from April 2020 is Oct 2020. We didnt even have the Moderna vaccine until Jan 2021 in the US, and this "just released study" (ahem, 1 year late) wants you to accept that Moderna is somehow similar to natural immunity. No one that posts on this board believes that a study done pre-Delta is valid in any way, shape, or form, at this point. Its horseshite
Dont let your teenager take this shite. Maintaining a social life is no trade-off for the unrealized side effects that we are starting to see.
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