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re: Jordy Culotta - "Blood is in the water. Wheels are in motion...higher ups have had enough"

Posted on 9/7/21 at 3:42 pm to
Posted by Syntax
FL390
Member since Aug 2020
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Posted on 9/7/21 at 3:42 pm to
Ok so I get it, you're defending Orgerons contract and his right to get paid if he's fired. You've been doing it all day in post upon post. Let me ask you a couple simple questions:

In your opinion is Orgeron

- doing a good job?
- representing the school well?
- hired the right assistants?
- conducting himself with class?

What say you?
Posted by SportTiger1
Stonewall, LA
Member since Feb 2007
28504 posts
Posted on 9/7/21 at 3:51 pm to
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If they had cause, they would have already fired him for cause.

---> That's not how any of this works. <---

You're just making shite up.


you dont know that whatsoever.

But yes, Canada agreed to ~50% buyout regardless of what his CONTRACT said.

LINK

so what's the difference in these two scenarios exactly?
Posted by vl100butch
Ridgeland, MS
Member since Sep 2005
34689 posts
Posted on 9/7/21 at 3:56 pm to
In your opinion is Orgeron

- doing a good job?
- representing the school well?
- hired the right assistants?
- conducting himself with class?
Posted by GeauxFightingTigers1
Member since Oct 2016
12574 posts
Posted on 9/7/21 at 3:56 pm to
quote:

you dont know that whatsoever. But yes, Canada agreed to ~50% buyout regardless of what his CONTRACT said. LINK so what's the difference in these two scenarios exactly?


There is no reason that we know of for Ed go negotiate anything. Canada was insubordination, which was not a real surprise to anyone. Its very possible parties could have duked it out in court. Canada was more or less documented, go see the interviews.

Ed is owed 70% of the remaining contract on day one from what I can tell, pre-judgment interest will start the next day on roughly $20m.

What exactly is Ed doing wrong again? Besides losing?

If Ed goes into the Dean's office and starts assaulting people, maybe you have something, but right now this all looks like buyer's remorse from the fans.
This post was edited on 9/7/21 at 4:00 pm
Posted by PUB
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2017
18363 posts
Posted on 9/7/21 at 3:59 pm to
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Posted by vl100butch
Ridgeland, MS
Member since Sep 2005
34689 posts
Posted on 9/7/21 at 3:59 pm to
In your opinion is Orgeron

- doing a good job?

2019 - spectacular
2020 - meh
2021 - looking like a train wreck in the making

- representing the school well?

at times, not consistently

- hired the right assistants?

*bangs head* 75% of the time no

- conducting himself with class?

this is what's going to take him down...the stories about threatening to fight people, too much of his personal life is aired publicly
Posted by SportTiger1
Stonewall, LA
Member since Feb 2007
28504 posts
Posted on 9/7/21 at 4:02 pm to
quote:

There is no reason that we know of for Ed go negotiate anything. Canada was insubordination, which was not a real surprise to anyone. Its very possible parties could have duked it out in court. Canada was more or less documented, go see the interviews.


is that the whole premise of this entire conversation about O?

i mean, even the subject line of THIS THREAD is referencing the admin being sick of O's bullshite/investigations.

Nobody thinks O is squeaky clean....surely
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
44263 posts
Posted on 9/7/21 at 4:03 pm to
quote:

There is no reason that we know of for Ed go negotiate anything.




When they fire him he will absolutely negotiate if he doesn't want to leave 75% of his remaining money behind.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
44263 posts
Posted on 9/7/21 at 4:04 pm to
quote:

is that the whole premise of this entire conversation about O?

i mean, even the subject line of THIS THREAD is referencing the admin being sick of O's bullshite/investigations.


It is. Derek's alter doesn't want people talking about Orgeron getting fired for cause, when it's going to happen regardless.
Posted by BallsEleven
Member since Mar 2019
6163 posts
Posted on 9/7/21 at 4:04 pm to
quote:

If you say so melt. You're melting so fast, might as well rename yourself Butter.


quote:

Right, hence all the melting.


quote:

Dude, you're melting all over the place.


When someone uses the word "melt" this much, it tells me you have no argument anymore.
Posted by GeauxFightingTigers1
Member since Oct 2016
12574 posts
Posted on 9/7/21 at 4:05 pm to
quote:

When someone uses the word "melt" this much, it tells me you have no argument anymore.


There really isn't an argument, money is owed. Options are all based on the money owed.

If LSU wins, nobody is crying about all this, and making up stuff.
This post was edited on 9/7/21 at 4:06 pm
Posted by bstew3006
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Member since Dec 2007
12583 posts
Posted on 9/7/21 at 4:06 pm to
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Canada was insubordination, which was not a real surprise to anyone. Its very possible parties could have duked it out in court. Canada was more or less documented, go see the interviews.


Isn’t that the subject of the Thread? How he’s a PR nightmare and embarrassing the university..Investigations and potential evidence to remove with cause?

quote:

What exactly is Ed doing wrong again? Besides losing?


That’s a pretty Fkn important part of keeping the job, no?
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
44263 posts
Posted on 9/7/21 at 4:11 pm to
quote:

There really isn't an argument, money is owed. Options are all based on the money owed.


No there really isn't an argument. Everything you've posted has been factually ripped to shreds.

quote:

If LSU wins, nobody is crying about all this, and making up stuff.


The only person making anything up is you water head.
Posted by luzana
St. Tammany
Member since Jul 2006
55 posts
Posted on 9/7/21 at 4:11 pm to
Regarding Coach O and purported antics at Port Fourchon: The operative word here is "apparently" he aggressively.....blah, blah, blah..could be bullshite ---maybe not..... now this story is off and running and no one can verify and never will.....The Rant is a gossip rag.
Posted by GeauxFightingTigers1
Member since Oct 2016
12574 posts
Posted on 9/7/21 at 4:13 pm to
quote:

Isn’t that the subject of the Thread? How he’s a PR nightmare and embarrassing the university..Investigations and potential evidence to remove with cause?


So, they are going to removing someone that knew what the school was doing and condoning? That sounds like LSU policy, and of course, you don't wait till the loses happen to take action.

What exactly was Ed doing? Sounds like it was the school ignoring things, why exactly are they taking three years to bring this all up.

If LSU won, none of this stuff would be even talked about... just like Wade.

This post was edited on 9/7/21 at 4:15 pm
Posted by Tigeralum2008
Yankees Fan
Member since Apr 2012
17155 posts
Posted on 9/7/21 at 4:13 pm to
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Regarding Coach O and purported antics at Port Fourchon: The operative word here is "apparently" he aggressively.....blah, blah, blah..could be bull shite ---maybe not..... now this story is off and running and no one can verify and never will.....The Rant is a gossip rag.


There's a video of the incident.... it's circulated

Sorry you don't have any friends that could forward it to you
Posted by sicboy
Because Awesome
Member since Nov 2010
77649 posts
Posted on 9/7/21 at 4:17 pm to
Surely someone could post it here
Posted by SportTiger1
Stonewall, LA
Member since Feb 2007
28504 posts
Posted on 9/7/21 at 4:18 pm to
quote:

There is no reason that we know of for Ed go negotiate anything. Canada was insubordination, which was not a real surprise to anyone. Its very possible parties could have duked it out in court. Canada was more or less documented, go see the interviews.


alright, i'm going to break it down slowly.

the whole point of the thread is that O is a jackass who is trying to fight random strangers IN their own camp house, and LSU has proof of that. among others stuff

IF TRUE, that is plenty to tarnish O's name. THEREFORE LSU has leverage for O to negotiate the buyout down.




NOW, maybe you believe that none of this really exists and O has no reason to give in because he is Jesus like.

BUT, to enter in this conversation about negotiated buyouts, you have to accept the premise of the original claims. Otherwise, this thread is probably not for you. Just say "bullshite" and move along.


Simple enough?
This post was edited on 9/7/21 at 4:19 pm
Posted by GeauxFightingTigers1
Member since Oct 2016
12574 posts
Posted on 9/7/21 at 4:20 pm to
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IF TRUE, that is plenty to tarnish O's name. THEREFORE LSU has leverage for O to negotiate the buyout down.


Good luck based on what is in the OP even if true.

I think it might be in the people that are upset at losing to where this is even a thing, to consider going on a vacation for a few days.

If LSU was winning, nobody would care.
This post was edited on 9/7/21 at 4:24 pm
Posted by bstew3006
318
Member since Dec 2007
12583 posts
Posted on 9/7/21 at 4:23 pm to
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So, they are going to removing someone that knew what the school was doing and condoning? T


quote:

What exactly was Ed doing? Sounds like it was the school ignoring things, why exactly are they taking three years to bring this all up.


Kinda the point of the on going investigation, no?

Do you know something that clears him?

quote:

LSU won, none of this stuff would be even talked about... just like Wade.


Sure, but the investigation is still there.

Lose and the seat heats up…naturally.

Add: Ongoing investigation, go 5-6 and every loss is embarrassing, continue to be a PR nightmare for the University, no one turns a blind eye.

But for some reason, you think he’s clear on everything and 100% of buyout will be owed.

Why? What do you know that completely Absolves him from T9 or any other investigation of wrong doing?
This post was edited on 9/7/21 at 4:24 pm
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