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re: Legal battle over right-to-life of Lafayette man in vegetative state

Posted on 7/27/21 at 5:08 pm to
Posted by Allluvnohate
Member since Jul 2021
168 posts
Posted on 7/27/21 at 5:08 pm to
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the hbot specialist even agreed it can still help him now

I thought he doesn't have a specialist now?


I contacted a hbot specialist and gave then all Josh's information and he gave me his professional opinion.

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Posted by littleavery1948
Member since Oct 2014
2781 posts
Posted on 7/27/21 at 5:11 pm to
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conflict appears to be between a wife who is ready to let go and a mother who refuses to give up hope


Let the mom pay the medical bills.

I’ve given my family clear instructions to let me go.

This. I refuse to live in a vegetative state. I have instructed my loved ones to pull the plug if it comes to that. I don't want that burden on my family. I was recently in the hospital for several months (second half of 2020 and first part of 2021), nearly dying on a couple of occasions. Prior to a very major but necessary surgery that put me in ICU for three months, I had to tell my family that I loved them, and if I don't regain functionality, to call hospice and let me go. Fortunately, I made it out, and I am back at work, but my family has clear instructions. If it ever comes to that, there should be NO DOUBT on what to do.

I had a long-time friend that recently died with similar issues (22 years older), and he fought for several months (was ill for two years) before he decided on hospice and passed within 12 hours. He didn't want to be that burden on his family, but he had a wife and three kids at home (he did get to say goodbye to his family). I never got to visit him thanks to COVID, and my issues. I did get to go to his funeral (two weeks ago) and talk to his wife and kids. I trust that they'll make the right decision, and if it's wrong, if I'm dead, why would I care?


Josh never gave any instructions to anyone. He isn't in a vegetative state and he can improve but his evil estranged wife has neglected to get him any treatment or therapy that could help him. That's what his mom plans to do when she gets guardianship. There is no plug to pull. Josh isn't on life support. He is young and healthy, not dying. It would take weeks or even months to starve him to death. That is cruel and nobody should be able to take his life when he never expressed that's what he would want


Baw, you going HAM on this one. Is this a hill you want to die on?
Posted by Allluvnohate
Member since Jul 2021
168 posts
Posted on 7/27/21 at 5:13 pm to
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You can't file a wrongful death suit when someone is alive.

It's a negligence lawsuit. The damages will be different/greater if he's dead. The only reason wrongful death became a term art is because there needed to be a law as to who could bring an action for negligencr after someone died.


Correct it is a negligence lawsuit and she is requesting the maximum amount of damages for a survival action and also a wrongful death. If he doesn't die she won't get either one of those. She could possibly get a small amount of change but not much.
Posted by Allluvnohate
Member since Jul 2021
168 posts
Posted on 7/27/21 at 5:21 pm to
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Baw, you going HAM on this one. Is this a hill you want to die on?


Not sure exactly what part of that you are referring to. Josh never expressed his desires of what he would want in this situation so nobody should assume it would be to starve him to death
Posted by Allluvnohate
Member since Jul 2021
168 posts
Posted on 7/27/21 at 5:24 pm to
This is what the evil monster had to say before there was a pending wrongful death lawsuit

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Posted by Obtuse1
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Member since Sep 2016
26163 posts
Posted on 7/27/21 at 5:29 pm to
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I know what that poster was getting at and I’d love to be the civil defense lawyer asking her under oath about her consortium claim when she herself was so public about wanting to pull the plug.


Maybe you can shed some light on the state of LA. I haven't read the pleadings and don't even know the specific COA or even the defendant (though I can guess) unless there are statutory limits to recovery isn't the case worth more with him alive than dead? Given the state he is in and likely prognosis you have basically all of the actuals of a death along with lifetime medicals. I know the numbers on the board are a lot higher alive than dead in this scenario where I practice.
Posted by Allluvnohate
Member since Jul 2021
168 posts
Posted on 7/27/21 at 5:30 pm to
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Bitches be crazy


Arrests

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Messages from Josh

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People who know the evil monster

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Posted by diat150
Louisiana
Member since Jun 2005
43829 posts
Posted on 7/27/21 at 5:35 pm to
Hopefully the mom can take over. The wife is clearly ratchet. I don’t know if he will recover but I surely hope the best.
Posted by Allluvnohate
Member since Jul 2021
168 posts
Posted on 7/27/21 at 5:37 pm to
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I know what that poster was getting at and I’d love to be the civil defense lawyer asking her under oath about her consortium claim when she herself was so public about wanting to pull the plug.



Maybe you can shed some light on the state of LA. I haven't read the pleadings and don't even know the specific COA or even the defendant (though I can guess) unless there are statutory limits to recovery isn't the case worth more with him alive than dead? Given the state he is in and likely prognosis you have basically all of the actuals of a death along with lifetime medicals. I know the numbers on the board are a lot higher alive than dead in this scenario where I practice.


For maegan he is worth more dead than alive. If he dies she can get the survival action and wrongful death money and it will all be her money to do whatever she wants with it. If he lives and she gets any money on his behalf, that is his money that she has to account for. She can spend it on anything she wants. Plus depending on how much she receives on his behalf, she could be responsible for paying his medical bills, which right now she pays nothing because Medicaid pays everything. If there was no lawsuit there would be nothing stopping her from allowing his mom to get him help. She doesn't want him getting help because she wants him in the worst possible condition. She isn't willing to do anything that will help him improve
Posted by RazorBroncs
Harding Bisons Fan
Member since Sep 2013
13608 posts
Posted on 7/27/21 at 5:41 pm to
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Josh is very responsive and has a high chance at recovery


How can you even say this without backing it up in any meaningful way? Before you link me an annoying tiktok video that's edited way too fast, I've already watched plenty of yours and it appears he's very much unresponsive and basically vegitative.

If no specialists have seen him and no scans done, how could you even begin to claim that he has a high chance of recovery? You're gaslighting us because you're very close to this whole situation somehow, and I don't think many are falling for it.

Meagan's motivations seem shady and posting his life all over social media is obviously fricked up and trashy, but it's possible to recognize that AND agree with her solution of giving Josh peace.

Will you at least tell us how you're related to this family? You seem overly obsessive about it and it's clouding your judgement.
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
114217 posts
Posted on 7/27/21 at 5:42 pm to
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Louisiana is the armpit of armpit of America. It’s beyond me why heaps of you choose to live there.




What the frick are you talking about? What does this have to do with Louisiana other than that's where these people live? Are you saying something like this couldn't happen anywhere else?
Posted by AMS
Member since Apr 2016
6501 posts
Posted on 7/27/21 at 5:50 pm to
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In March of 2018 they filed for divorce. After his injury she canceled the divorce without his knowledge or consent. Not only is a conflict of interest for her to be his guardian because she has a pending wrongful death lawsuit and stands to gain financially in his death, she has also collected thousands of dollars from dozens of fundraisers for his hyperbaric oxygen treatments but instead of getting him the treatments she took the money and went on vacations with her girlfriend. She has not acted in his best interest and has most definitely committed a crime


well are they still married or not? they are. im not sure that matters as much as you think it might. as a general rule a husband literally is never going to have any role regarding consent/nonconsent for a wife to submit or withdraw suit for divorce.


im not sure you really have evidence of such illegal fundraiser spending, that might exist. but fraudulent fundraising is a separate issue entirely from being a medical proxy especially when gov insurance is covering healthcare expenses and he is getting appropriate medical care which seems to be the case per that article.

he certainly does not appear to have a meaningful chance at recovery. even if the wife is defrauding fundraisers, the mom is needlessly prolonging suffering. perhaps she is doing it out of spite for the wife? who knows but they should let the man die with dignity. regardless of the lawsuit vs goverment for abandoning policy negligently allowing and someone in their custody to attempt suicide
Posted by Allluvnohate
Member since Jul 2021
168 posts
Posted on 7/27/21 at 5:59 pm to
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In March of 2018 they filed for divorce. After his injury she canceled the divorce without his knowledge or consent. Not only is a conflict of interest for her to be his guardian because she has a pending wrongful death lawsuit and stands to gain financially in his death, she has also collected thousands of dollars from dozens of fundraisers for his hyperbaric oxygen treatments but instead of getting him the treatments she took the money and went on vacations with her girlfriend. She has not acted in his best interest and has most definitely committed a crime



well are they still married or not? they are. im not sure that matters as much as you think it might. as a general rule a husband literally is never going to have any role regarding consent/nonconsent for a wife to submit or withdraw suit for divorce.


im not sure you really have evidence of such illegal fundraiser spending, that might exist. but fraudulent fundraising is a separate issue entirely from being a medical proxy especially when gov insurance is covering healthcare expenses and he is getting appropriate medical care which seems to be the case per that article.

he certainly does not appear to have a meaningful chance at recovery. even if the wife is defrauding fundraisers, the mom is needlessly prolonging suffering. perhaps she is doing it out of spite for the wife? who knows but they should let the man die with dignity. regardless of the lawsuit vs goverment for abandoning policy negligently allowing and someone in their custody to attempt suicide


I disagree with you completely. And Josh will not be murdered by that evil monster. How on earth you came to the conclusion that his mom wanting to get him treatment and therapy is out of spite is beyond me
Posted by Allluvnohate
Member since Jul 2021
168 posts
Posted on 7/27/21 at 6:03 pm to
If you think he looks unresponsive you must be blind. I don't know how many times I have to say it his evil estranged wife won't let anyone near him to evaluate him and give a diagnosis. He will get evaluated when he is freed from her control.
Posted by AMS
Member since Apr 2016
6501 posts
Posted on 7/27/21 at 6:04 pm to
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If no specialists have seen him and no scans done, how could you even begin to claim that he has a high chance of recovery? You're gaslighting us because you're very close to this whole situation somehow, and I don't think many are falling for it.


seems pretty clear. although I highly doubt no one has seen him. you don't just end up in a nursing home bypassing medical workup after a suicide attempt while in police custody. he definitely was brought to a hospital, worked up by the ICU physician and received appropriate treatment. then he was stabilized and discharged to a long term facility.

we are well past the point in time where anything meaningful could be done. If anything were going to improve it would have already.

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Meagan's motivations seem shady and posting his life all over social media is obviously fricked up and trashy, but it's possible to recognize that AND agree with her solution of giving Josh peace.


this. what happened is not a great thing, but prolonging his suffering is worse than someone making a buck off the government for their negligence of someone in custody.
Posted by Allluvnohate
Member since Jul 2021
168 posts
Posted on 7/27/21 at 6:05 pm to
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Before you link me an annoying tiktok video that's edited way too fast, 


By the way, you can pause the video.
Posted by RazorBroncs
Harding Bisons Fan
Member since Sep 2013
13608 posts
Posted on 7/27/21 at 6:05 pm to

Can't believe I'm saying it, but AMS nailed it.

And Josh literally told his mom he was going to commit suicide in jail beforehand. There was none of this "fear of going through withdrawals" crap that allluvnohate is claiming, so what if he "made phones (phonecalls)" from jail? I'm not sure how that proves what allluv is thinking.

Allluv ALSO came in hot claiming she had proof that Meagan was prostituting, but nowhere does it say that.

She seems like someone that is either WAY too close to the situation to think clearly, or she's unrelated altogether and one of those women that marry a death row inmate and become obsessive about his life

Posted by Allluvnohate
Member since Jul 2021
168 posts
Posted on 7/27/21 at 6:10 pm to
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If no specialists have seen him and no scans done, how could you even begin to claim that he has a high chance of recovery? You're gaslighting us because you're very close to this whole situation somehow, and I don't think many are falling for it.


seems pretty clear. although I highly doubt no one has seen him. you don't just end up in a nursing home bypassing medical workup after a suicide attempt while in police custody. he definitely was brought to a hospital, worked up by the ICU physician and received appropriate treatment. then he was stabilized and discharged to a long term facility.

we are well past the point in time where anything meaningful could be done. If anything were going to improve it would have already.

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Meagan's motivations seem shady and posting his life all over social media is obviously fricked up and trashy, but it's possible to recognize that AND agree with her solution of giving Josh peace.


this. what happened is not a great thing, but prolonging his suffering is worse than someone making a buck off the government for their negligence of someone in custody.


He was in the hospital for 6 weeks. He was not very responsive at that time. About a month after leaving the hospital he became more alert and responsive. He was doing things he wasn't doing in ICU. However, he never seen a specialist again to re evaluate him because that evil monster put him on hospice. So there was nothing anyone did for treatment or updating his status. But last year hospice discharged him because he no longer qualifies
Posted by Allluvnohate
Member since Jul 2021
168 posts
Posted on 7/27/21 at 6:16 pm to
She did a huge post on her fb talking about being a sex worker and how much she loved it and the money and how powerful it made her feel.
You can think whatever you want about the situation, it doesn't change the fact that his treatment was already paid for and he should receive it. It would be cruel to starve him to death
Posted by Mr Clean
New Iberia
Member since Aug 2006
49961 posts
Posted on 7/27/21 at 6:17 pm to
I’m glad that you found this thread. How did you come across it?
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