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re: Non-Scientific Poll: COVID Vaccine

Posted on 7/16/21 at 7:51 am to
Posted by Septiger
Member since Nov 2020
1689 posts
Posted on 7/16/21 at 7:51 am to
I won’t be an experiment for a virus in which almost everyone survives.
Posted by dsides
Member since Jan 2013
5457 posts
Posted on 7/16/21 at 7:53 am to
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Had China virus and got vaccinated. If you are healthy you'd have to be a wimp to be worried about either one.


Then why get it
Posted by Simplemaaan
Member since Sep 2007
3845 posts
Posted on 7/16/21 at 8:01 am to
Vaccinated by Mother Nature. Still hauling antibodies.
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
26163 posts
Posted on 7/16/21 at 8:08 am to
The article didn't support your position they fricked this one up, or did you not read it?
Posted by tiggerthetooth
Big Momma's House
Member since Oct 2010
61498 posts
Posted on 7/16/21 at 8:11 am to
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Then why get it



Because the data shows the vaccines work better than natural antibodies.
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
37733 posts
Posted on 7/16/21 at 8:13 am to
From your linked article

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At first glance, this may seem alarming, but it is exactly as would be expected.

Here’s a simple thought experiment: imagine everyone is now fully vaccinated with COVID vaccines – which are excellent but can’t save all lives. Some people who get infected with COVID will still die. All of these people will be fully vaccinated – 100%. That doesn’t mean vaccines aren’t effective at reducing death.


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PHE data suggests that being double vaccinated reduces the risk of being hospitalised with the now-dominant delta variant by around 96%. Even conservatively assuming the vaccines are no more effective at preventing death than hospitalisation (actually they are likely to be more effective at preventing death) this means the risk of death for double vaccinated people has been cut to less than one-twentieth of the value for unvaccinated people with the same underlying risk profile


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Given the UK’s vaccination strategy (vaccinate older, more vulnerable people first), you would expect high proportions of the people who die from COVID to have been vaccinated. And that is exactly what we see in the data. The fact that more vaccinated people are dying than unvaccinated people does nothing to undermine vaccine safety or effectiveness. In fact, it’s exactly what we’d expect from the excellent vaccines, which have already saved tens of thousands of lives.

Posted by Rhino5
Atlanta
Member since Nov 2014
28909 posts
Posted on 7/16/21 at 8:14 am to
Not vaccinated, but not against those who want it, I’d just prefer to pump the brakes on all of this. It’s all happened within 18 months, and I’ve never seen a more blatant combined campaign by big business, media, and government to get a shot. It’s suspicious.
Posted by TheFlyingTiger
Member since Oct 2009
4012 posts
Posted on 7/16/21 at 8:20 am to
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Because the data shows the vaccines work better than natural antibodies.


It doesn't.
Posted by LSU316
Rice and Easy Baby!!!
Member since Nov 2007
29350 posts
Posted on 7/16/21 at 8:21 am to
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More injected peopled died from covid last week in Britain than un-injected.


I don't believe that for a second. It's the same thing as the case numbers and the overall COVID deaths....made up bullshite.
Posted by tiggerthetooth
Big Momma's House
Member since Oct 2010
61498 posts
Posted on 7/16/21 at 8:22 am to
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It doesn't.


Yes. It. Does.

Posted by LSU Coyote
Member since Sep 2007
53390 posts
Posted on 7/16/21 at 8:22 am to
Posted by TheFlyingTiger
Member since Oct 2009
4012 posts
Posted on 7/16/21 at 8:25 am to
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Yes. It. Does.


No. Natural immunity is way better, longer lasting, and broader than a specific spike protein from these shots.

The vaccines are proving more recently to be in the 60's for effectiveness, not the 90 percentile that the Pfizer global marketing campaign initially used to sell it to you.


Good write up from Alex Berenson.
This post was edited on 7/16/21 at 8:50 am
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
68739 posts
Posted on 7/16/21 at 8:30 am to
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3. Is this a vaccine? No, mRNA messenger is a lab synthetic
Posted by Robin Masters
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2010
30189 posts
Posted on 7/16/21 at 8:44 am to
I’m not anti-vax but the incessant pressure to get it is strange.
Posted by dsides
Member since Jan 2013
5457 posts
Posted on 7/16/21 at 8:50 am to
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Because the data shows the vaccines work better than natural antibodies.


Works better to do what? Reduce the symptoms?
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
68739 posts
Posted on 7/16/21 at 8:56 am to
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I’m not anti-vax but the incessant pressure to get it is strange
Not really. They did it with the flu every year as well.
Posted by tiger91
In my own little world
Member since Nov 2005
36817 posts
Posted on 7/16/21 at 8:57 am to
They don't nearly push flu vaccine like this every year -- at least not in my area that I've seen. They don't offer money, or free donuts, or free pot (in Washington state), or free beer, etc.
Posted by heatom2
At the plant, baw.
Member since Nov 2010
12821 posts
Posted on 7/16/21 at 8:58 am to
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Why would I inject myself with a vaccine that is not vetted, for a virus that won't kill me?


I'm not sure a vaccine could get more vetted than this one.
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
68739 posts
Posted on 7/16/21 at 8:58 am to
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Because the data shows the vaccines work better than natural antibodies
Im pro vaccine, but I've not seen this. The vaccine only helps your body recognize the S-protein, wouldn't natural antibodies formed after weeks of infection be able to recognize more points than just the S-protein?
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