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re: Cristian Erikson... Danish Soccer Player who collapsed

Posted on 6/21/21 at 12:16 pm to
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
35190 posts
Posted on 6/21/21 at 12:16 pm to
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I can give you an exhaustive list of Soccer players who have died


Let’s see it then, as I can only name a handful that have died.
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
36571 posts
Posted on 6/21/21 at 3:03 pm to
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Let’s see it then, as I can only name a handful that have died.



Do you follow the sport all that closely? Marc-Vivian Foe and Miklos Feher are two who died of hypertrophic cardiomyopathy. Dani Jarque and Antonio Puerta were La Liga players and they died from heart related issues, not to mention Piermario Morosini in Italy. The bigger leagues it is a rarer occurrence, but Gregory Mertens who played in the Belgian first division passed in 2015, and former Newcastle player Cheick Tiote passed while playing in China. Those are probably the bigger names. Most of the rest of the players who have died were from much smaller professional leagues. By my count, 13 or so players have died from episodes of cardiac arrest or heart attacks since Tiote's death.
Posted by interdesting
Member since Dec 2020
192 posts
Posted on 6/21/21 at 7:49 pm to
It seems you are too involved. The question was whether he had had a covid vaccine. It has been reported he did (in prep for Euros, not while at the club in Italy). I answered the question. Yet, you come in with an ad hominem attack.

Why? Just a jerk on the Internet? Or do you have some skin in the game? Either way, I hope you find the peace you lack.
Posted by sgallo3
Dorne
Member since Sep 2008
24747 posts
Posted on 6/21/21 at 8:35 pm to
LINK

He didn't have the vaccine, so your stupid thread based on nothing is just stupid. Kinda pathetic that you would make such a reach to somehow support your anti-vaccine stance.
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
35190 posts
Posted on 6/21/21 at 8:38 pm to
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Do you follow the sport all that closely?


Let me guess, you are claiming that you produced that list without looking it up...



This post was edited on 6/21/21 at 8:40 pm
Posted by sgallo3
Dorne
Member since Sep 2008
24747 posts
Posted on 6/21/21 at 8:40 pm to
It's such a common thing in sports, even if he didn't know all of those players off the top of his head
Posted by starkvingrad
Florida
Member since Apr 2021
5837 posts
Posted on 6/21/21 at 8:43 pm to
Remember how we opted not to live in fear last year during all of the COVID hysteria, because we knew that the chances of a healthy person dying from the virus were extremely low?

That's how we should approach the vaccine.
Posted by Boodis Man
Member since Sep 2020
4880 posts
Posted on 6/21/21 at 8:45 pm to
Eriksen was not vaccinated and never tested positive for covid. so there's that
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
35190 posts
Posted on 6/21/21 at 8:45 pm to
quote:

It's such a common thing in sports


No - it’s not. That’s the point...he HAD to look it up. In short, he is full of shite.
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
36571 posts
Posted on 6/21/21 at 9:03 pm to
Dude, Marc-Vivian Foe, Dani Jarque and Antonio Puerta were massive events. But they happened a decade ago, hence why I asked if you actually followed the sport, like you insinuated. Or even knowing what happened to Fabrice Muamba, which again, was a massive event that most fans would know. Tiote's death too was a big deal dude.
Posted by sgallo3
Dorne
Member since Sep 2008
24747 posts
Posted on 6/21/21 at 9:08 pm to
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Fabrice Muamba, which again, was a massive event that most fans would know


Yep, that was a huge story
Posted by TDFreak
Dodge Charger Aficionado
Member since Dec 2009
7466 posts
Posted on 6/21/21 at 9:09 pm to
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It is interesting how they are actively avoiding discussing vaccine talk around his condition though.

And yet a year ago, ANY ailment was lumped into COVID-positive cases and, in tragic circumstances, COVID deaths!
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
35190 posts
Posted on 6/21/21 at 9:10 pm to
quote:

Fabrice Muamba, which again, was a massive event that most fans would know

Yep, that was a huge story


Agreed.

Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
36571 posts
Posted on 6/21/21 at 9:11 pm to
quote:

No - it’s not. That’s the point...he HAD to look it up. In short, he is full of shite.





Brah, Dani Jarque was commemorated at the WC Final 2010. Just admit you don't follow the sport and don't know how common cardiac arrest events actually are in the sport. You just don't follow the sport, and thus don't know. It's alright to admit ignorance about a topic.
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
35190 posts
Posted on 6/21/21 at 9:15 pm to
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Dude, Marc-Vivian Foe, Dani Jarque and Antonio Puerta were massive events. But they happened a decade ago, hence why I asked if you actually followed the sport, like you insinuated.


Hahaha, if you knew me irl, you would feel dumb for posting this. Let’s just say decades
(plural).

You looked that shite up to try to make yourself seem incredibly knowledgeable. I called you on it. No offense, but this is NOT a common event...which is why when it happens, it is HUGE news.

ETA - Just a reminder, you said exhaustive.

Your list (you know, the one that you looked up) was not fitting of the term imho. To each their own I guess.
This post was edited on 6/21/21 at 9:17 pm
Posted by dgnx6
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
69375 posts
Posted on 6/21/21 at 9:17 pm to
Did they ever actually say what led to it?

I know he had an ICD implanted so his playing career is most likely over. In Italy at least.

Posted by Roger Klarvin
DFW
Member since Nov 2012
46626 posts
Posted on 6/21/21 at 9:18 pm to
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It’s a valid question, if he was or wasn’t given the shot.


Asking if any random cardiac arrest was due to a COVID vaccine is not valid
Posted by concrete_tiger
Member since May 2020
6151 posts
Posted on 6/21/21 at 9:20 pm to
Seems like the soccer crowd and vaccine crowd would be pretty much overlapping bubbles…
Posted by dgnx6
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
69375 posts
Posted on 6/21/21 at 9:22 pm to
quote:

OP started a thread for a random thought


I thought about it too and it's been completely ignored.

I also find it strange they have players traveling across the globe in international tournaments all coming from diff countries, some with quarantine stipulations for unvacced travelers, but these players aren't vaccinated?

Seems reckless from everyone involved in soccer.


Posted by Pettifogger
Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone
Member since Feb 2012
79523 posts
Posted on 6/21/21 at 9:32 pm to
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Asking if any random cardiac arrest was due to a COVID vaccine is not valid



Yeah. It's weird

There aren't people dropping dead from vaccines right and left. So asking if every high profile cardiac incident is vaccine-related makes no sense. When confronted with this reality, the poster going "makes you think hmmmm" goes "it's just a question, and valid one that nobody is talking about".

In reality, they're just saying "here's an unevidenced suggestion, can you definitively disprove it to my satisfaction? If not, it's evidence that my unsupported suggestion is true!" The left does this all the time.
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