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re: LA now has Constitutional Carry?
Posted on 6/25/21 at 4:22 am to Herooftheday
Posted on 6/25/21 at 4:22 am to Herooftheday
The bill was put onto his desk 6/04/21 so 20 days from that would be 6/24, so isn’t too late for him to veto it?
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Posted on 6/25/21 at 6:35 am to SlickRickerz
The legislature has allowed him to veto a bill on day #21... totally spineless.
Not expecting it to be signed or to outlast the day.... but hoping to be pleasantly surprised over the weekend.
Not expecting it to be signed or to outlast the day.... but hoping to be pleasantly surprised over the weekend.
Posted on 6/25/21 at 6:47 am to dakarx
Let’s clarify a couple of things.
There have been two veto override sessions since our previous Crooked Governor named Edwards rewrote the Constitution to give himself almost unlimited power in the early 1970’s (1972 IIRC).
He has line item veto ability, so he can go right done the list of state funded projects and appropriations and whack any money headed for a district where a legislator has bucked him. Honor Choade has used this like no one before to club the opposition into submission. He’s already struck several appropriations headed for the Senate President’s constituency.
He doesn’t want the special session, if they grow enough balls to show up for it, they are likely to override several vetoes, especially CC and the Men as Women bill. Both of these are high profile and emotional issues he’s way in the wrong on. Our voting citizens want these (not counting the deceased that vote).
He was also prepared to veto several tax bills. He’s negotiating signing those in return for them going away on the above.
tl;dr The sloth is using a carrot and stick approach to avoid an override session
There have been two veto override sessions since our previous Crooked Governor named Edwards rewrote the Constitution to give himself almost unlimited power in the early 1970’s (1972 IIRC).
He has line item veto ability, so he can go right done the list of state funded projects and appropriations and whack any money headed for a district where a legislator has bucked him. Honor Choade has used this like no one before to club the opposition into submission. He’s already struck several appropriations headed for the Senate President’s constituency.
He doesn’t want the special session, if they grow enough balls to show up for it, they are likely to override several vetoes, especially CC and the Men as Women bill. Both of these are high profile and emotional issues he’s way in the wrong on. Our voting citizens want these (not counting the deceased that vote).
He was also prepared to veto several tax bills. He’s negotiating signing those in return for them going away on the above.
tl;dr The sloth is using a carrot and stick approach to avoid an override session
Posted on 6/25/21 at 6:52 am to dragginass
quote:
So then why hasnt he vetoed it yet? What's the point in waiting since it's been on his desk just sitting?
To serve as another FU to the people of Louisiana. He'll end up vetoing it on like the last day in the final hours.
Posted on 6/25/21 at 6:54 am to Icansee4miles
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The sloth is using a carrot and stick approach to avoid an override session
Our Legislature can slap that away and enter a veto session and I'm not sure why they haven't
They could use that as a springboard for to run for governor
Posted on 6/25/21 at 7:05 am to JColtF
They can't until 40 days have passed since the session was over. Session ended 6/10, so 7/20 is the time for a veto session. And since the vetoes are happening while they are not in session, the veto session will be automatic
This post was edited on 6/25/21 at 7:06 am
Posted on 6/25/21 at 7:08 am to jdd48
But the law says you have 10 days if they're still in session and 20 days if session is over to sign a bill or it becomes a law automatically. It was put on his desk on 6/04 so 20 days would be 6/24. Today is 6/25, how does he still have the ability to veto it if it’s past the 20 days.
This post was edited on 6/25/21 at 7:12 am
Posted on 6/25/21 at 7:09 am to dakarx
And I don't know if he's vetoing on the 21st day for sure. He may very well be vetoing on the 20th day but announcing on the 21st day. Which is shite anyway.
Im sure they'd let him veto whenever he wants so long as he backdated to the deadline.
Im sure they'd let him veto whenever he wants so long as he backdated to the deadline.
Posted on 6/25/21 at 7:10 am to SlickRickerz
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how does he still have the ability to veto it if it’s passed the 20 days.
Ask your rep. Report back here.
This post was edited on 6/25/21 at 7:11 am
Posted on 6/25/21 at 8:00 am to Herooftheday
quote:
the veto session will be automatic
Unless the majority of legislators want to not have it.
Based on the fact that Cortez is saying anything right now I think this is where the Senate comes into play.
ETA
Because of this related to Cortez
quote:
He’s already struck several appropriations headed for the Senate President’s constituency.
and this
quote:
He was also prepared to veto several tax bills. He’s negotiating signing those in return for them going away on the above.
This post was edited on 6/25/21 at 8:02 am
Posted on 6/25/21 at 11:55 am to dragginass
Not that I’ve heard……JBE is playing this one close to the vest.
Posted on 6/25/21 at 11:59 am to LSU316
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Not that I’ve heard……JBE is playing this one close to the vest.
Well can you please hurry up and hear something?
Posted on 6/25/21 at 12:17 pm to bayourougebengal
Can someone explain how he could legally sign a veto today?
Does the 10/20 day period start with the next day?
Does the 10/20 day period start with the next day?
Posted on 6/25/21 at 12:22 pm to Scoob
Like said earlier, the crooked fricker probably backdates it.
Posted on 6/25/21 at 12:31 pm to CootKilla
quote:What's his option to do that?
Like said earlier, the crooked fricker probably backdates it.
I mean, aren't there any big groups monitoring this? You'd definitely think there would be. I don't see how he could just sit on something and sneak it in later, I'd think there is a clock ticking and some big organization (NRA for example) watching closely.
Posted on 6/25/21 at 2:57 pm to Scoob
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Can someone explain how he could legally sign a veto today?
Does the 10/20 day period start with the next day?
I think he has 10/20 days to veto from the time his office recieves the bill...not from the time it was passed.
This post was edited on 6/25/21 at 2:58 pm
Posted on 6/25/21 at 4:35 pm to theenemy
Hes not waiting for the hard copy to show up in the mailbox. The date sent is the date recieved as stated on the bill timeline on legis.la.gov.
Look up HB20. That bill was sent while they were in session, so 10 day rule.
Sent on 5/26
Vetoed on 6/7.
Days in hand: 14
Look up HB20. That bill was sent while they were in session, so 10 day rule.
Sent on 5/26
Vetoed on 6/7.
Days in hand: 14
Posted on 6/25/21 at 4:46 pm to Herooftheday
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The date sent is the date recieved as stated on the bill timeline on legis.la.gov.
What makes you think this?
Posted on 6/25/21 at 4:53 pm to BigJim
Do you suspect there's an electronic hold of some sort on files sent from one branch to the next?
Unless some sectetary or intern is walking manilla folders from the Congress to the governor's office as the get passed and letting him know it's on his desk.
Unless some sectetary or intern is walking manilla folders from the Congress to the governor's office as the get passed and letting him know it's on his desk.
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