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Posted on 6/9/21 at 9:13 am to BigD43
quote:you actually believe this
Some teams gross revenue are less than other team’s payrolls!
This post was edited on 6/9/21 at 9:13 am
Posted on 6/9/21 at 9:14 am to SportsGuyNOLA
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Never thought it would happen, but this is the year I quit watching MLB games.
I quit watching after lance Berkman talked about trans bathroom bills. Just shut up and swing
Posted on 6/9/21 at 9:22 am to BigD43
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MLB is a joke
I don't think that's true, but most of its "unwritten rules" most definitely are a joke. HUGE joke actually.
Posted on 6/9/21 at 9:44 am to BigD43
You are contradicting yourself as far as capping the draft. You complain about rich teams but then say the teams should be able to pay high signing bonus to lure prospects.
Posted on 6/9/21 at 9:59 am to Tigers0891
MLB is getting more regional every season. Your cable/MLB TV package lets you watch your favorite team in all 162 games. That usually enough baseball for anyone.
Posted on 6/9/21 at 10:05 am to tduecen
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Part of it is as a purist, not everything needs to change for the sake of changing. MLB still allows team's to play each other over the course of 3 years, right now playing 18 against division rivals is just better. I want to see the Yankees play more games against Tampa, Red Sox, O's, and Jays than I do against Pirates, Rockies, Mets, etc...
But as an Astros fan, I feel like we play the A’s, Angels, and Mariners about 15387 times! And for folks that like to travel to games, more choices of cities is better. Every 3 years is just not very often. A lot of how you feel about IL depends on how you feel about your division. How many games in your market don’t start till after 9 pm?
This post was edited on 6/9/21 at 10:07 am
Posted on 6/9/21 at 10:23 am to Buckeye Backer
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MLB needs a universal DH
No thanks. Changing the rules of the game won’t make anyone that wasn’t already watching tune in by a significant amount. They need to stop pandering and trying to bring people to the sport that have no interest in it.
Posted on 6/9/21 at 10:27 am to McCaigBro69
Take the DH OUT of the AL…. Talk about a game changer…… but the MLB’S problem is the season is to damn long and they let too many teams in the playoffs.
Posted on 6/9/21 at 10:46 am to Buckeye Backer
I wonder if interleague play has made any difference in revenue over the years. It sure has screwed up scheduling.
And frick the DH.
And frick the DH.
Posted on 6/9/21 at 11:02 am to SoFla Tideroller
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The results suggest that interleague play results in about a 7% increase in attendance over a comparable intraleague game, yielding an increase in revenue from ticket sales of about one half of 1%.
Posted on 6/9/21 at 11:57 am to BigD43
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I dont see this issue in the other leagues.
The NBA says hello.
The over/underslot stuff in the MLB draft confuses the shite out of me and I am not ashamed to admit it.
The MLB has the same main issue that other leagues have: shitty owners who are too meddlesome. The godawful Chris Archer trade was supposedly made because the Pirates owner wanted to go for it all despite being 6 games behind the 2nd wild card at the deadline.
MLB teams have gotten badly burned on those super long term deals. I think the Albert Pujols contract made owners and front office staff seriously reconsider how they hand out long term contracts. Philadelphia is going to regret the Bryce Harper deal in a few years.
I don't think corporations like Liberty Media should be allowed to own sports teams.
Posted on 6/9/21 at 5:09 pm to tduecen
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yet teams like Tampa, San Fran, etc are playing in the postseason and making it to the World Series. Not to mention teams like the Dodgers and Yankees are having to give money to these low payroll teams who instead of investing it in players, pocket the money.
I'm certainly not saying it is impossible. Certain teams just have a disadvantage? Do you disagree?
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have you looked at the NFL, NHL, and NBA?
MLB is anything but unique in this regard. However, it could be argued that MLB is the worst example as they do play more games.
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draft is better for small market teams now as players can't set a demand and wait for a team in the back of the draft grab them because small market clubs don't want to afford them
Fair point but I disagree. It was more beneficial for the teams to take the best guy available.
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10 years ago this was just as bad, see the Astros as a prime example. It is magnified more now but it has been going on for years.
I do remember a decade ago there was a leak in financials and the Pirates owner had to give the team a loan years beforehand.
Posted on 6/9/21 at 5:12 pm to BigD43
I mean baseball is a game where the goal is to cheat and not get caught doing it. The Astros were roasted over coals for 2 years and went to Yankee Stadium and Yankee fans went crazy, yet somehow forgot that all their WS titles since 2000 had cheaters on the team with steroids etc.
The game is full of cheating and it's encouraged, as long as your a big market team you're safe
The game is full of cheating and it's encouraged, as long as your a big market team you're safe
Posted on 6/9/21 at 5:16 pm to BigD43
quote:you are correct that some teams have a financial advantages over others. The extent however is largely exaggerated almost entirely by the small market owners who want to continue to act like they exist in relative poverty and can't possibly support payrolls of 170+ million and can't possibly support expanding player development staffers and research analysts and all they want to do is take all the money teams like the Dodgers give them and pay themselves "consulting bonuses" and then hold their stadium situations over their municipalities head like a loaded gun
Certain teams just have a disadvantage? Do you disagree?
Posted on 6/9/21 at 5:23 pm to WestCoastAg
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Some teams gross revenue are less than other team’s payrolls!
you actually believe this
Their gross revenue is provided by Forbes.
The 2015 Cincinnati Reds gross revenue was $237 million. The Dodgers payroll that year was $272 million.
Posted on 6/9/21 at 5:28 pm to BigD43
And those are almost entirely deceptive numbers that in no way accurately depict the true amount of revenue brought in by these teams considering they never open their books
This post was edited on 6/9/21 at 5:29 pm
Posted on 6/9/21 at 7:34 pm to BigD43
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MLB owners are interested in making a profit and not contending.
Oh god damn this so fricking stupid.
take a long look at some NFL organizations.
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I dont see this issue in the other leagues.
Posted on 6/9/21 at 7:44 pm to BigD43
Every team is owned by a billionaire at this point, they have the money to make their teams competitive but made a choice to just collect revenue and money from other teams. You can argue the big market teams, Yankees, Red Sox, Mets, Dodgers, Cubs, Nationalz, etc have an advantage but in mob over 162 games that advantage can be migrated with good accounting and understanding player development.
Playing more games makes what worst? MLB had 5 teams in each league make the playoffs, or 10 teams total out of 30. The NFL has 14 teams and the NBA has 16 teams.
Apparently, you don't understand the draft as a lot of top guys would flat out say they would not sign for certain teams in order for a more prominent team to sign them. All market clubs did not really compete with the big market clubs in the draft.
Playing more games makes what worst? MLB had 5 teams in each league make the playoffs, or 10 teams total out of 30. The NFL has 14 teams and the NBA has 16 teams.
Apparently, you don't understand the draft as a lot of top guys would flat out say they would not sign for certain teams in order for a more prominent team to sign them. All market clubs did not really compete with the big market clubs in the draft.
Posted on 6/10/21 at 7:32 am to BigD43
I wish the season was shorter. By the time September rolls around, I am just tired of baseball and ready for football. What about a schedule like:
Division games- play each team 14 times (two 4 game series, two 3 game series) = 56 games
Out of division league games- play each team 6 times (two 3 game series) = 60 games
Interleague- keep same = 20 games
That would equal a total of 136 games
I'd be okay with reducing the interleague actually and increasing the other games somehow.
Division games- play each team 14 times (two 4 game series, two 3 game series) = 56 games
Out of division league games- play each team 6 times (two 3 game series) = 60 games
Interleague- keep same = 20 games
That would equal a total of 136 games
I'd be okay with reducing the interleague actually and increasing the other games somehow.
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